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Offline Mutilator

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Races and Tech crossing
« on: November 10, 2004, 08:42:02 pm »
Is this new league going to be one race only per cycle?

If we are allowed to have two races; will it be status quo as per GZ, one week race 1 next week race 2?

What are peoples feelings on fielding cross teching fleets? As we are now in Dynaverse perhaps in the spirit of a lot of their campaigns we could have FSD (Lyran/Klingon) with a BCP+ a Klingon D5D and D5 vs TSC (Klingon/Romulan) in a Romulan KCR with two Klingon D5s. Will certainly make planning a lot harder as the options the other fleet could bring in have just been increased two fold.

If this is a little too radical for the purest among us; perhaps we could include each races pirate affiliate into the ships that may be selected by each fleet. IE Feds could take Orion ships, Tiger Hearts for Lyran etc...

Just some ideas...
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004, 08:43:42 pm »
Quote from: Mutilator on November 10, 2004, 08:42:02 pm
Is this new league going to be one race only per cycle?

If we are allowed to have two races; will it be status quo as per GZ, one week race 1 next week race 2?

What are peoples feelings on fielding cross teching fleets? As we are now in Dynaverse perhaps in the spirit of a lot of their campaigns we could have FSD (Lyran/Klingon) with a BCP+ a Klingon D5D and D5 vs TSC (Klingon/Romulan) in a Romulan KCR with two Klingon D5s. Will certainly make planning a lot harder as the options the other fleet could bring in have just been increased two fold.

If this is a little too radical for the purest among us; perhaps we could include each races pirate affiliate into the ships that may be selected by each fleet. IE Feds could take Orion ships, Tiger Hearts for Lyran etc...

Just some ideas...

I personally feel that all fleet members should fly the same race.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2004, 03:24:19 am »
I feel that all fleet members should fly the same race as well .The fleets will loose their race identity and thats not good.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2004, 09:04:16 am »
I actually favor the idea of multi race fleets with certian limitation. First the team must declare a primary race, which will determine whether they are Alliance (Fed, Hydran, Gorn, Mirak) or Coalition (Klingon, ISC, Lyran, Romulan) as well. Second they may only take 1 ship from an allied race in a 3 ship fleet. 2v2s require you to fly just your primary race.

This preserves a certian amount of the historical flavor, but allows for a little more flexibility and balance where certian races don't match up well against non-traditional enemys and such.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2004, 12:49:36 pm »
Lets keep it simple for the first cycle.

One (1) Race per fleet.

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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2004, 04:12:19 pm »
One race per fleet.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2004, 09:39:38 pm »
Hoi Folks,

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Posted by: Kroma 

I actually favor the idea of multi race fleets with certian limitation. First the team must declare a primary race, which will determine whether they are Alliance (Fed, Hydran, Gorn, Mirak) or Coalition (Klingon, ISC, Lyran, Romulan) as well. Second they may only take 1 ship from an allied race in a 3 ship fleet. 2v2s require you to fly just your primary race.

This preserves a certian amount of the historical flavor, but allows for a little more flexibility and balance where certian races don't match up well against non-traditional enemys and such.

I think it is a fine idea to have fleets comprised of allied races, so long as restrictions apply to maintain fleet identity.

I also understand that this will require some work to make happen. If an acceptable set of rules could be devised in time for this upcoming cycle great, if not I would really like to see something like this come into effect for at least an exibition cycle of matches.

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P.S. I have been flying with the GDA, started a little late in the last cycle, but I am here now. Due to my first account with GameSpy being destroyed somehow. I was forced to sign on as "drbbrd" for the new account. Hope that clears that up.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2004, 03:43:41 pm »
I like the idea of two ships from the main race and limiting the second race to one ship. Even like Kroma suggestion of keeping the traditional allies team up. Perhaps we could start off slow and only allow the races pirate affiliation as the second race vice any combos of the eight main stays.

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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2004, 06:26:50 pm »
I was actually thinking about adding that for PBR at one point  - allowing fleets to include a Pirate ship from their 'affiliated' pirate race as a Merc.  It's straight from S8 (the SFB source) so it's legit.

As for mixing races, i would think it would have to be something along the lines of:
historical ally
only one
has to be a non-combat support or command.

That sounds pretty legit to me too
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2004, 06:59:13 pm »
Quote from: KHH Jakle on November 12, 2004, 06:26:50 pm

has to be a non-combat support or command.


good point, I hadn't thought of that issue.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2004, 07:50:44 pm »
Lets all fly ISC for Cycle 1!!!

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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2004, 06:31:00 pm »
I strongly Disagree with your Opinion Mr.

Edited Because there will be no Personal attacks.

Stephen
« Last Edit: November 13, 2004, 06:44:04 pm by Stephen »
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2004, 01:32:38 pm »
Are you kidding me ?

I cant even make a joke about my own friend and fleet mate ?

Dude get a grip man I can not believe you edited this post I never said a bad word or even slamed him.

Legendary is my fleet mate and friend and I get called a dictating control freak.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2004, 01:49:19 pm »
No, hes not kidding.
Hes got a grip, thats why he is a global moderator and if he edited it i'm sure the reason he specified was true.
If you feel you need a break from posting feel free continue with your current behaviour and we will arrange your vacation.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2004, 09:38:06 am »
Quote from: MrCue on November 14, 2004, 01:49:19 pm
No, hes not kidding.


But he may have been a little bit mistaken on the intent of the post. I know Stephen had the best of intentions and probably thought it was a real personnel attack and was therefore just doing his job, but as 2Hot has mentioned he was joking around with a pal. Thus your response is a little OOT. And I should know. ;-)
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2004, 10:43:22 am »
Concur that 2Hot was yanking on Sliders chain.

Now to get this topic back on track. I think enough are opposed to crossing the eight main races for cycle one, but I think we need to answer the pirate affiliate question. Is this something we are willing to look at in cycle one or are we going to just stick to one fleet one race?  ???
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2004, 11:22:55 am »
What are the empires/cartel affiliations anyway? Who is with who?
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2004, 04:23:30 pm »
Quote from: Kroma on November 15, 2004, 11:22:55 am
What are the empires/cartel affiliations anyway? Who is with who?

As listed in the manual these are the ones listed as the primary pirate cartels in the space of the main races.

Federation = Orion
Klingon = Crimson shadow
Mirak = Camboro
Romulan = Prime Industries
Lyran = Tiger Heart
Hydran = Beast Raiders
Gorn = Syndicate
ISC = Wyldrfire

I could also list the cartels other operating areas if we want to open the pirates up a little more.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2004, 05:14:34 pm »
Would definatly be interesting to see a fleet using a pirate ship  :-\

I'd vote that if anything, you can use your Races "cartel" as a second race for matches.
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Re: Races and Tech crossing
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2004, 06:20:44 pm »
Quote from: MrCue on November 14, 2004, 01:49:19 pm
No, hes not kidding.
Hes got a grip, thats why he is a global moderator and if he edited it i'm sure the reason he specified was true.
If you feel you need a break from posting feel free continue with your current behaviour and we will arrange your vacation.


hmmmmmm this seems a bit personal in it's wording who polices the  :police:   mauhahahahahahahhahaha
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