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A Brain Challenge
« on: November 06, 2004, 10:54:29 am »
If anyone can name the ranks of the Roman army including Auxiliary ranks, and WITHOUT cheating, i will dub you the smartest person alive.

And when i mean WITHOUT cheating, that does include using the internet. So NO using the internet, PERIOD!!! use your gray matter inbetween your ears. ;D

You can name them from lowest to highest or vice versa.

Two hours to do this. and i will check it.

GOOD LUCK!!!

EDIT: I did want to make one thing clear, ALL other sources may be used except of course the internet.


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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2004, 10:57:52 am »
The centuria, cohort, and legio, but I can't remember how the centuria was laid out....kinda cheated...6 years of Latin in HS and college...but that was from '69 to '75

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Summum ius summa iniuria.

The more law, the less justice.

Cicero, De Officiis, I, 33

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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2004, 11:03:00 am »
Iucunda macula est ex inimici sanguine.

What a pleasant stain comes from an enemy's blood.

Syrus

or for those who are married:

Tacitast melior mulier semper quam loquens.

Plautus

You translate it

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Summum ius summa iniuria.

The more law, the less justice.

Cicero, De Officiis, I, 33

"It doesn't, and you can't, I won't, and it don't
it hasn't, it isn't, it even ain't, and it shouldn't
it couldn't"
FZ, 1974

My chops were not as fast...[but] I just leaned more on what was in my mind than what was in my chops.  I learned a long time ago that one note can go a long way if it's the right one, and it will probably whip the guy with twenty notes.
 --Les Paul

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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2004, 11:42:01 am »
If we are talking about the early and middle republic they would be in order from front to rear.

Velite - skirmisher
Hastati
Principes
Triarii
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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2004, 11:52:41 am »
Not the ranks of the legion. Military ranks. example. "Centurion" etc...

Will not give any thing else out.




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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2004, 12:11:06 pm »
I looked them up, and i will saythat if ANYONE can figure them out, they are history demigods!
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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2004, 12:21:49 pm »
If we are talking about the early and middle republic they would be in order from front to rear.

Velite - skirmisher
Hastati
Principes
Triarii

BTW, those are correct for the legion.




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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2004, 02:06:54 am »
So nobody is going to take a shot at this?




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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2004, 06:38:49 am »
Yes, I cheated...even my old Latin books didn't have it broken down like this...but:

Antesignani  One name for the light cavalry. The other name was Lancearii

Centuriae or Century A unit of troops with a legion. Mostly 80 strong, but it could actually number anything between 30 to 100 soldiers

Cohort A unit within the legion. There were 10 cohorts in a legion. The first cohort was twice the size of the other cohorts.

Equites legionis The light cavalry

Lancearii One name for the light cavalry. The other name was Antesignani 

Legatus legionis (Legate) The first in command of a legion

Legio The actual legion itself

Manipuli A division with a legion. There were three manipuli within a cohort each consisting of two centuries

Numeri A unit in a legion where the soldiers had special skills. E.g. bridge building, engineering, administration etc.

Vexillationes A unit in a legion where the soldiers had special skills. E.g. bridge building, engineering, administration etc.

 
Then broken down:

Centurion  A commander of one hundred men. Also know as a Centuriones ordinarii

Centuriones exercitatores The training officer for the cavalry

Centuriones lanceariorum The leader of the legionary infantry known as antesignani or lancearii.

Conicen  The trumpeter. There was one to every century 

Cornicularius An administrative officer within a legion

Discentes signiferorum A trainee standard bearer

Extraordinarii  Soldiers set aside for special backup services. This force usually contained 20% of the infantry and 33% of the cavalry

Hastaii  These were the best of the best of the legion and stood on the front line in battles

Hastatus posterior The deputy to a Hastatus prior

Hastatus prior A high ranking officer within a manipuli

Immunes A soldier who had special duties and talents and did not perform many of the menial tasks that were expected of an ordinary soldier

Munifex The lowest rank in a legion. Equivalent to a private in today's armies

Optio  The centurion's second in command 

Pilus posterior The deputy to a Pilus prior

Pilus prior A high ranking officer witihin a manipuli who also commanded the cohorts

Praefectus castrorum The third in command in a legion

Primi ordines The senior centurions in a legion who commanded the first cohort

Primus Pilus  The senior centurion in a legion

Princeps prior A high ranking officer witihin a manipuli

Principales A non-commissioned officer

Principes These were the second best of the best of the legion and stood on the second line in battles behind the Hastaii

Princeps posterior The deputy to a Princeps prior

Signifer The standard bearer for the century in a legion

Singulares The auxiliary soldiers

Trarii  Experienced soldiers, who used the same weapons as the Hastaii and Principes, but instead of a pilum, they had a long spear.

Tribunus One of six assistants to a legion commander - the Primus Pilus. Usually a young senator learning the basics for his career

Tribunus laticlavius The second in command in a legion

Velites  The light soldiers. Unlike the Hastaii, they did not have full armour, although they did have a helmet and a shield. They were also armed with a sword, but had a only a short javelin as opposed to a pilum.
 
Summum ius summa iniuria.

The more law, the less justice.

Cicero, De Officiis, I, 33

"It doesn't, and you can't, I won't, and it don't
it hasn't, it isn't, it even ain't, and it shouldn't
it couldn't"
FZ, 1974

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 --Les Paul

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Re: A Brain Challenge
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2004, 10:02:04 pm »
Yes, I cheated...even my old Latin books didn't have it broken down like this...but:

Antesignani  One name for the light cavalry. The other name was Lancearii

Centuriae or Century A unit of troops with a legion. Mostly 80 strong, but it could actually number anything between 30 to 100 soldiers

Cohort A unit within the legion. There were 10 cohorts in a legion. The first cohort was twice the size of the other cohorts.

Equites legionis The light cavalry

Lancearii One name for the light cavalry. The other name was Antesignani 

Legatus legionis (Legate) The first in command of a legion

Legio The actual legion itself

Manipuli A division with a legion. There were three manipuli within a cohort each consisting of two centuries

Numeri A unit in a legion where the soldiers had special skills. E.g. bridge building, engineering, administration etc.

Vexillationes A unit in a legion where the soldiers had special skills. E.g. bridge building, engineering, administration etc.

 
Then broken down:

Centurion  A commander of one hundred men. Also know as a Centuriones ordinarii

Centuriones exercitatores The training officer for the cavalry

Centuriones lanceariorum The leader of the legionary infantry known as antesignani or lancearii.

Conicen  The trumpeter. There was one to every century 

Cornicularius An administrative officer within a legion

Discentes signiferorum A trainee standard bearer

Extraordinarii  Soldiers set aside for special backup services. This force usually contained 20% of the infantry and 33% of the cavalry

Hastaii  These were the best of the best of the legion and stood on the front line in battles

Hastatus posterior The deputy to a Hastatus prior

Hastatus prior A high ranking officer within a manipuli

Immunes A soldier who had special duties and talents and did not perform many of the menial tasks that were expected of an ordinary soldier

Munifex The lowest rank in a legion. Equivalent to a private in today's armies

Optio  The centurion's second in command 

Pilus posterior The deputy to a Pilus prior

Pilus prior A high ranking officer witihin a manipuli who also commanded the cohorts

Praefectus castrorum The third in command in a legion

Primi ordines The senior centurions in a legion who commanded the first cohort

Primus Pilus  The senior centurion in a legion

Princeps prior A high ranking officer witihin a manipuli

Principales A non-commissioned officer

Principes These were the second best of the best of the legion and stood on the second line in battles behind the Hastaii

Princeps posterior The deputy to a Princeps prior

Signifer The standard bearer for the century in a legion

Singulares The auxiliary soldiers

Trarii  Experienced soldiers, who used the same weapons as the Hastaii and Principes, but instead of a pilum, they had a long spear.

Tribunus One of six assistants to a legion commander - the Primus Pilus. Usually a young senator learning the basics for his career

Tribunus laticlavius The second in command in a legion

Velites  The light soldiers. Unlike the Hastaii, they did not have full armour, although they did have a helmet and a shield. They were also armed with a sword, but had a only a short javelin as opposed to a pilum.
 


Mike, you have them correct. I hereby salute you.

BTW, i could have made to where you could not use anything. i will stump somebody... ;D




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