Topic: look at the BunkerHill CARRIER coming soon

[manitoba1073]

let the comments begin

[wulf111]

i like this but you should add some landing strips to the back of the hull in front of the shuttle bays

[Starforce2]

I think you  should use streached  versions of WZ's X era excelcior for nacelles, the nacelles seem to subtract from the over all look of things. You could, I suppose, make a variant with WZ nacelles under the saucer/drive hull, like the Dauntless,  the fake federation vessel from  voyager which is what the mains ection of this ship reminds  me of. Bunkerhill is an excelent choice for a name too.

[ModelsPlease]

i like this but you should add some landing strips to the back of the hull in front of the shuttle bays

Hehehehe DONE . Mani was posting this WIP while I was still coloring lol.

I think you  should use streached  versions of WZ's X era excelcior for nacelles, the nacelles seem to subtract from the over all look of things. You could, I suppose, make a variant with WZ nacelles under the saucer/drive hull, like the Dauntless,  the fake federation vessel from  voyager which is what the mains ection of this ship reminds  me of. Bunkerhill is an excelent choice for a name too.

The Narcelles are Manitoba's original design.The idea is to have ships of the interum years represented .The model itself is P81's originally.The crayons are mine 

Keep the suggestions coming.Great ideas have begin somewhere.
 
-MP

[Greenvalv]

Very nice, never seen nacelles like that before.

[Mackie]

quite good but i think its still missing something

[Reverend]

The Narcelles are Manitoba's original design.The idea is to have ships of the interum years represented .The model itself is P81's originally.The crayons are mine 

Keep the suggestions coming.Great ideas have begin somewhere.
 
-MP

Yeah, I love the NARCELLES, they're great. Surely those NARCELLES are good enough??
LOL just kidding... very nice work, the name fits like a glove, I agree!

[markyd]

I would like to see the top of the saucer fleshed out a little... 

Looks good though... and I agree the name rocks 

[ModelsPlease]

quite good but i think its still missing something

Any thoughts as to what Mackie ? I too think perhaps something else is needed on the tops of the narcelles ?

I would like to see the top of the saucer fleshed out a little...

In what way ? Although not present in the WIP she has correct registry now.And plenty of Aztec'ing though ya really can't see it in the WIP. And the landing strip has been added to the rear.

So what else ? Thanks for some great imput everyone,it's much appreciated
-MP 

[Sandman3D]

Got it!!.... The Bridge...that's what's off...the bridge modeule is WAAAAYYYYYY to small, can hardly see it. That's the only thing I see that's a little off, the rest looks great!!

[ModelsPlease]

Got it!!.... The Bridge...that's what's off...the bridge modeule is WAAAAYYYYYY to small, can hardly see it. That's the only thing I see that's a little off, the rest looks great!!

Here Sandman sir,and everyone else as well,this should give ya an idea on this beastie...............



Right now M & M are working on no less than 9 count 'em 9 different carriers.One ta fit your every need.Stay tuned for more tid bits from OutaLance Shipyards.
 
-MP

[Mackie]

take half or 1/3 off from the size and add more small windows, currently too big :p

[Rod ONeal]

I think that the nacelles are too far back. I don't know if it's where the struts attach to the hull or where they attach to the nacelles themselves (or possibly a combo of the two) that needs to be changed.

Did you it like that to kinda emulate the Style of the SFB flatbed in a TNG ship? Just a thought that I had while looking at it. If so then I think that the rear hull might need a bit of redesigning to make it work aesthetically. The scale of the ship is truely massive!

[S33K100]

Way too big, needs much, much, much, much, much, much smaller windows and scale the bridge down aswell. A nice design but the nacelles really don't match the texture style on the rest of the ship, you might want to have a look at that because all the other parts have a consistent texture style and the nacelles break that up and as a result look stuck on as an afterthought.

[manitoba1073]

all those is being worked on. ill post a current wip of it in a little bit

[manitoba1073]

ok heres a few more angles with some updates

[ModelsPlease]

Like I had stated earlir we have about 9 configurations for the carrier perhaps Mani can post 1 pic of each and everyone can decide.As for carrier size let me just put out some facts and then let the debate begin...........

CVN 65 USS Enterprise
335.64m or 1101 feet
Carriers 80 + fighter aircraft.not including support aircraft.
The average length of these fighters is 62 ft or 18.9m.Height average of 16 ft.

Sovereign Class
680M or 2231 feet
Pereguine Class fighter ( as close to canon as it gets ) 14m or 45.93 feet long.


So i thought to myself,well the Sovie is about 2x as large as a modern carrier.But she's not. If she were to be ,based on the numbers. Her fighter compliment would be near 200 fighters.Obviously the game won't support that number.And based on facts of a modern carrier x2 is not unrealistic. I just thought to support Numbers like this a carrier for Star Trek should be enormous.I based this on Looking at the size of modern carriers versus other ships in the Navy.Obviously the Carrier is the biggest.Though honestly my scale is probably off.I thought a Fed carrier should be at least the size of the Scimitar ( and look how many fighters were on it) And obviously no where even remotely close to it's firepower.Like it or not the Scimitar is canon.Many say uber but canon none the less.In my game,carriers are the biggest,most expensive ship there is to get.Lots of fighters,weapons are primarily defensive.Ofensive weapons are missiles(and not many of those) so it pans out for me at least.But like Mani and I said keep the comments coming and eventually(hopefully) everyone will be happy with our results. Thanks everyone for helping.
-MP

[manitoba1073]

here are a few variants we have

[OlBuzzard]

I think I know what you were trying to do with the smaller "bridge" on that saucer ... it was suppost to help put things in its proper perspective....

However ... if this is the case ..  ya might want to resize some other things that go with it ..  windows being one ...  also MORE rows of them .. ( on the edges of the saucer ) as well as other areas on the secondary hull.

That is the only major thing I see that would need to be done ...

The rest is a very good attempt create a new "heavy carrier"...

I do like the paint on the nacelles.

keep it comming

[atheorhaven]

Looks like the idea I had on this was addressed with the Casablanca.. but here's the pic I was going to post..

[manitoba1073]

lol  we said there were a few variants  lol

[ModelsPlease]

Yup lol,but sadly I have broken my crayons ,hopefully I'll be back up and coloring by next week.
-MP