Topic: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!  (Read 4589 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Dizzy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6179
MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« on: October 30, 2004, 09:28:58 pm »
Well if it was moved, I cant get to the link. Please PM me a copy of the dialogue so I may read in private. TY.

Offline Hexx

  • Sexy Shoeless Lyran God Of War
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6058
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2004, 09:33:43 pm »
Seriously, can I get a copy as well?
(Must have missed the personal attack and profanity the first time)
Courageously Protesting "Lyran Pelt Day"

Offline Bonk

  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 13298
  • You don't have to live like a refugee.
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2004, 09:49:34 pm »
Quote
This topic has been moved to Mod Review: Skeletons in the Closet.
Personal attack and profanity.
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php?topic=163348387.0


Me either, it was my thread too... can you just delete the personal attacks (which I missed entirely ??) from the thread and return it so we can get back to business?

And what's this "Mod Review: Skeletons in the Closet." forum?... is that in Hot&Spicy?... what's the deal on that forum?


At least copy over the last draft in the thread to save me the work of redoing it...

Or has TalonClaw decided that KCW defintely will not run? - what's going on here? I'm OK with that I guess, I'm just as glad an admin arbitrarily decided to kill it... hmmm, maybe it would make a fun single player mod? That would at least make use of the work Capt Jeff and I put into it.

edit: installer updated to include all the files for singleplayer campaign play - three campaigns included - one for each house - this way we can practice and debug while the dust settles.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2004, 12:02:10 am by Bonk »

Offline Dizzy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6179
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2004, 10:36:58 pm »


it was my thread too... can you just delete the personal attacks (which I missed entirely ??) from the thread and return it so we can get back to business?

Or has TalonClaw decided that KCW defintely will not run? - what's going on here?


1st off, Bonk, lets give Talonclaw the benefit of the doubt here and let him explain his moderator behavior to us ALL and how it pertains to his moving of the thread according to moderator rules and guide ines.

2nd, it seems to me either Talonclaw unilaterally took matters into his own hands and decided to get rid of a thread Bonk needed to use or the moderator guide lines and rules gave him no choice to do otherwise. Now, one or the other needs to change.

The thing to have done would have been for the moderator to edit the bad posts and warn those posters to refrain from posting there again or to delete only the bad posts. I'm done putting up with this. I've already talked to Stephen and a few other moderators and they told me (assured me) that locking or moving away a thread wont happen if the thread in question can be salvaged with a deletion or edit of an offending post.

Basically, Talonclaw, what you did unilaterally or were forced to do because of moderator guide lines and rules is to allow a thread hijacker to chime in on any thread he likes, stoke a couple flames and get everything everyone else wer discussing tossed out the window.

This moderator practice needs to change.

Offline Nemesis

  • Captain Kayn
  • Global Moderator
  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 13068
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2004, 10:46:14 pm »
At least copy over the last draft in the thread to save me the work of redoing it...

Is this it?

Official draft with second draft list attached alphabetically:

Dizaroma (Klingon)
Dizzy
Kroma
Agave
Alfman
Amadeus
Black
Bonk
Chuut-Ritt
Corbomite
Crim
DieHard
drb
FireSoul
Green
Holocat
Hooch
Jinn
Kel
Lear
Lengendary
Lepton
Mog
Puppy Power
reejr
S'Cipio
Shogun
Strafer
Surfal
t00l
TobinDax

Bob Graham
Bossman
BoyLinux
Castrin
Devil40
Doomstone   

Kinshaya (ISC)
Julin Euthyr
Hexx
AJTK
Alexider
Bydabook
C-Los
CrimsonKnight
Davey-E
Doc
Dogmatix
EmeraldEdge
FarFarer
FatherTed
Firehawk
Horus
jd
Jem
Kapact
KAT MRess
Laflin
LeRoy
LordKrueg
Marikar
Matsukasi
Maxillius
Patterson
SkullnBonez
Soth
Villa64
WarSears

Mace
Maverick
Nasim
Nemesis
Paladin
Phantasmas   

S?uhn?ih (Hydran)
TraceyG
Shadow Six
2Step
Ajax
Bach
Bearslayer
benbean
Capt Jeff
deadman
DrAzteca
Evil Kraven
Frankk
Icehawk
Kurok
KYTARH
Likkerpig
Lyrkiller
Madelf
Mantis
MaudDib
minime
Mrogue
Pardek
Soreyes
Strongbad
The_Joker
Thrain
TotensBurntCorpse
Trajan
WillWeasel

Phobos
Raven
Reveric
Skyflyer
Stephen
Ternado
Wraith413
Do unto others as Frey has done unto you.
Seti Team    Free Software
I believe truth and principle do matter. If you have to sacrifice them to get the results you want, then the results aren't worth it.
 FoaS_XC : "Take great pains to distinguish a criticism vs. an attack. A person reading a post should never be able to confuse the two."

Offline Dizzy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6179
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2004, 10:52:29 pm »
Thanks IKV Nemesis. Now can you please post all the discussion on the four main talking points of the thread? I'll give you the list.

1.) New/Replacement House leaders were being discussed.
2.) the picking up and running with the ball when a server designer leaves was being discussed.
3.) Draft trading and lists were being discussed (you posted half of that there. ;))
4.) The plans for the hosting and scheduling of the server were still being discussed.

Diz

Oh, also find out why the thread was moved. Was it a moderator judgement call or was it motivated by unbendable moderator rules and guide lines?

Oh, one more thing, get me a copy of those rules and such.

Thanks.

I'm being facetious of course. :P But my point is entirely serious.

Offline KBFLordKrueg

  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 3733
  • KBF CO
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2004, 10:58:09 pm »
This topic has been moved to Mod Review: Skeletons in the Closet.
Personal attack and profanity.
http://www.dynaverse.net/forum/index.php?topic=163348387.0

Man, and I was following that...!  :smackhead:

I miss all the good stuff!  :-\
Lord Krueg
KBF CO
We are the Dead

Offline Nemesis

  • Captain Kayn
  • Global Moderator
  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 13068
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2004, 11:01:36 pm »
Thanks IKV Nemesis. Now can you please post all the discussion on the four main talking points of the thread? I'll give you the list.

1.) New/Replacement House leaders were being discussed.
2.) the picking up and running with the ball when a server designer leaves was being discussed.
3.) Draft trading and lists were being discussed (you posted half of that there. ;))
4.) The plans for the hosting and scheduling of the server were still being discussed.

Diz

Oh, also find out why the thread was moved. Was it a moderator judgement call or was it motivated by unbendable moderator rules and guide lines?

Oh, one more thing, get me a copy of those rules and such.

Thanks.

I'm being facetious of course. :P But my point is entirely serious.


I would if I could but the copy of the thread that I have on screen is not that up to date.  It ended about 16 hours ago.  Hopefully the moderators/admins will review it quickly and edit out anything that must go then restore the thread to us. 

Installer
Webmap
Website

What I do have I will provide.  To properly copy everything (of significance) over will take more time than I have right now but if it is wanted I will go through and do it in the morning. 
Do unto others as Frey has done unto you.
Seti Team    Free Software
I believe truth and principle do matter. If you have to sacrifice them to get the results you want, then the results aren't worth it.
 FoaS_XC : "Take great pains to distinguish a criticism vs. an attack. A person reading a post should never be able to confuse the two."

Offline SSCF-LeRoy

  • Kim's Clubhouse Painter
  • Lt.
  • *
  • Posts: 923
  • Gender: Male
  • Captain
    • SSCF.net
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2004, 11:10:38 pm »
Er, uh...what happened? :-\

Offline likkerpig

  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 2614
  • Gender: Male
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2004, 11:17:50 pm »
Er, uh...what happened? :-\

Dunno.
But Fluf ain't around so it's your fault.
Go to the basement and get into your Gimp suit, I'll be down in a minute with the riding crop and drano....
You've been a naughty boy and must pay!
"Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby."



Offline Nemesis

  • Captain Kayn
  • Global Moderator
  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 13068
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2004, 11:18:09 pm »
Er, uh...what happened? :-\

A quick overview.

Someone was apparently a bad boy/girl in the thread (I didn't see it).  A moderator moved the thread away from the public view for the admins/moderators to decide what to do about it. 

We hope that any needed editing will be done and the thread returned to us soon.  Apparently no one has an up to date copy of the information the thread contained. 

I just discovered that my copy is older than I thought, about TWO days old.  I was fooled by the time saying "today" instead of Oct. 28 as listed elsewhere on the saved screen.  So it saves even less than I hoped.
Do unto others as Frey has done unto you.
Seti Team    Free Software
I believe truth and principle do matter. If you have to sacrifice them to get the results you want, then the results aren't worth it.
 FoaS_XC : "Take great pains to distinguish a criticism vs. an attack. A person reading a post should never be able to confuse the two."

Offline Bonk

  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 13298
  • You don't have to live like a refugee.
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2004, 11:24:19 pm »
Er, uh...what happened? :-\

No idea LeRoy... I was watching Kreug's SFB-OP film (good stuff!  ;D) , when I finished and checked here the thread was gone...  ???

edit: installer updated to include all the files for singleplayer campaign play - three campaigns included - one for each house - this way we can practice and debug while the dust settles.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2004, 12:03:47 am by Bonk »

Offline Dizzy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6179
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2004, 12:25:18 am »
Er, uh...what happened? :-\

Dunno.
But Fluf ain't around so it's your fault.
Go to the basement and get into your Gimp suit, I'll be down in a minute with the riding crop and drano....
You've been a naughty boy and must pay!


OMG

Offline FPF-DieHard

  • DDO Junkie
  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 9461
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2004, 01:02:00 am »
I didn't do it!!!! 
Who'd thunk that Star-castling was the root of all evil . . .


Offline Bonk

  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 13298
  • You don't have to live like a refugee.

Offline KBF-Crim

  • 1st Deacon ,Church of Taldren
  • Global Moderator
  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 12271
  • Gender: Male
  • Crim,son of Rus'l
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2004, 02:56:00 am »
heh...I didnt do it either...honest... :P

I'll see if we cant expedite a return of said thread upon review...if no one responds by tommorrow I'll edit it myself and return it..

But if one of you buttheads could watch yer languange I wouldnt have to worry about restoring it...*cough* ;)

Offline Dizzy

  • Captain
  • *
  • Posts: 6179
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2004, 06:58:42 am »
Tanka Crim. ;)

Offline Julin Eurthyr

  • Veltrassi Ambassador at Large
  • Lt. Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 1057
  • Gender: Male
  • Back in Exile due to Win 7 - ISC RM/Strat Com.
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2004, 07:01:51 am »
So there might not have been personal attacks in said thread, just a bit of short-word (4-letter edition) typing, and Talonclaw used the standard form letter in moving it?

Drat, and here I was thinking I missed a major bout of personal attacks last night.  That's what I get for sleeping through the daylight savings time change... :rofl:

Oh well.  I can repeat my last statement here as well.  I've livened up the KCW-dev forum, and those who have access might want to check out my points... :D

AKA: Koloth Kinshaya - Lord of the House Kinshaya in the Klingon Empire
S'Leth - Romulan Admiral
Some anonymous strongman in Prime Industries

Offline Fluf

  • KOTH Fluf Duke of Pies
  • Lt. Junior Grade
  • *
  • Posts: 237
  • Gender: Male
  • Always at fault
    • Knights of the Hegemony
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2004, 09:21:02 am »
Its not my fault!  ::)
Patriarch Knights of the Hegemony
SFC2.net Admin
SFC3.net Admin
Battlezone Admin
Litterbox Admin

Offline Bonk

  • Commodore
  • *
  • Posts: 13298
  • You don't have to live like a refugee.
Re: MOVED: KCW "Draft" list for Oct 29 launch (CANCELLED)!
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2004, 09:46:59 am »
Its not my fault!  ::)

OK, something big is definitely up, to bring Fluf out of hiding to post on the D2 forums!