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HELP!!!
« on: October 29, 2004, 11:00:36 am »
My computer went nutts yesterday... I was downloading the B5 game off the net, I left it downloading, woke up in the morning and all I see is the dos prompt, I resetted the puter and again it just boots into dos?? No errors or nothing....

When I type dir/p to see whats on the hdd it says their is nothing on it....

I have allot of work not backed up yet and dont want to install everything again as I will loose it all... that includes the AXOR and the Reeve and 3 other models I was working on...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Has anyone else ever had this problem.. I am qualified as a computer engineer done ComptaA+ & N+ but this eludes me!!!! :'( :'(

Anything you can advise is greatly appreciated :(

**edit** Im currently using my wifes laptop to get on the net.... she isnt happy cos im hogging it rofl

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2004, 12:13:39 pm »
what OS do you have on it?

also if it is booting to dos only and the dir command should work to see if there are any folders on it. If the folders are there the cheapest way to to hook it up as a external drive to the lap top virus scan it and see whatg is recoverable on the drive. A external box that you can mount a HDD in costs about 35 bucks Once you buy it you will always have that option, and it is a easy back up device to use as well once a HDD is in it.
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2004, 12:23:56 pm »
What OS were you running?. If XP have you tried doing a system recovery or a repair install of XP? It almost sounds like either
1) a virus or something blew away your partition table if so maybe partition magic or similiar program might help
2) your hard drive may have crapped out on you if you have any diag tools to check the HDD (i asume you do since you have A+ cert.)
3) did you check your floppy drive and or CD drive to make sure there is no bootable disk left in it? (i know stupid question but you dont know how many people have done that are brought thier system in to be fixed)
4) possibility that some of your ram has gone bad and is not letting the system complete its POST (very common) remove all ram from system and power on if you get POST beeps (usually 3 or 4 quick in a row) replace one stick power on (you should remember how this works)

The fact that you are able to dos commands has me curious did you have dos installed on your system?
Can you get to the OS selection screen (F8 during boot up)?
there are so many causes to your problem and so many ways to troubleshoot it
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2004, 01:00:03 pm »
Thanks guys... Im running XP Pro.. and as you know it runs a VDM so the fact that I am now running in a stable SAL DOS enviroment is very peculiar... The HDD seems fine... but my backup drive... 200gb seperate drive seems to be blank???? When I boot from the XP CD it tells me their were no versions of windows found.. thier are also no partitions setup.. no active or logical or anything ???

The more I think about it the more I think im goinna end up rebuilding my life from scratch, I used disk doctor it tells me the HDD are 100% ok no problems... Replaced the ram and no difference.... Im getting cold sweats... so mutch work and collections of junk down the swaney  :'(

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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2004, 01:17:14 pm »
i know how you feel my friend i just had to recover from a HDD failure a few months back lost the entire 200 GB of stuff i have been rebuilding ever since


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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2004, 01:20:11 pm »
jeez... didnt know this could happen...
maybe the processor itself is bad.... bad thing is he has a entire backup harddrive, like I do... I got a remote USB HD for a simialr problem... he has an interior secondary drive, also very smart investment...

had this problem when I first got on Taldren, my processor ws incompatable with my video card, and the comp totally freaked out, even when I formatted... it'd be fine for a week or two, then just freak out.
AMD and Geforce MX400 dont mix....
please continue to post any and all, I am very curious about this too, especially since you know so much about comps and you're lost MarkyD....
sorry....

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2004, 01:32:40 pm »
My suggestion is to install a fresh HD, new Windows install on it, and make your old system drive a D: drive. Then run some file recovery util on it. Or install the wiped out drive on a friends computer and run a file recovery util on it. Some file recover utils require them to be already installed prior to the wiping out, some do not. In any case do NOTHING to the drive in question. Try Downloads.com for file recovery tools. If it booting into DOS, then your partion table is probably OK otherwise it would boot that drive at all.

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2004, 02:00:38 pm »
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304449

this might be of help

good luck we are all pulling for ya


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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2004, 02:03:35 pm »
Thanks guys.... all of your advice is appreciated.....  ;) Im plowing through seeing what I can do...  :'(

Following links now..  :'(

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2004, 02:14:30 pm »
i had a similar problem once i just did a reinstall on the same drive where the OS was .... did the trick...you could check the HD with another PC and see if the data is still there ..... there could be another explanation for the aperent inability of dos to locate the files .... it is likely that the ver of dos simply dose not recognize the file system


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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2004, 02:46:10 pm »
Thanks core... I have checked the drives in another computer and they show up as unformatted and blank NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :o :'(

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2004, 02:58:07 pm »
i had the same problem once .... you should use some sort of a recovery program to restore the needed file types as in the earlier suggestion check cnet


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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2004, 02:59:32 pm »
"my processor ws incompatable with my video card, and the comp totally freaked out, even when I formatted... it'd be fine for a week or two, then just freak out.
AMD and Geforce MX400 dont mix...."

lol you had bigger problems with your comp than that...there are several million n-force 1-2 motherboards out there with integrated geforce MX cards in them that not only run rock solid reliable and fast, but do so exclusively on an AMD processor, it could be a mobo, but its nothing to do with the processor unless its overheating or already damaged, or the graphics card itself (which is very possible if switching gfx solved yer problem)

I only waffle on saying all this completely off-topic as it sounds like you had a bad graphics card or possibly ram/motherboard and you could be entitled to a refund or exchange if you havent done so already, so dont hesitate to as you deserve yer moneys worth (ignore this if you did already) but considering AMD and Nvidia have worked together from the nforce 1 up to the new athlon64 nforce 4, it aint likely to be mixing it that causes problems.

Otherwise anyone using a computer for storage of precious items should consider a decent multi-RAID config, its 5x faster than an external USB drive, just as reliable, and actually can work out cheaper these days, even with 4 hard drives needed. Its saved my ass plenty of times and the big speed boost over regular IDE is a bonus.

Otherwise burn burn burn on cd/dvd  ;D

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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2004, 03:20:16 pm »
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Otherwise anyone using a computer for storage of precious items should consider a decent multi-RAID config, its 5x faster than an external USB drive, just as reliable, and actually can work out cheaper these days, even with 4 hard drives needed. Its saved my ass plenty of times and the big speed boost over regular IDE is a bonus

you only need a minimum of 3 disks for a raid 5 config but the more you have the better the fault tolerence i acually run my server with 6 drives in raid 5 for storage and 2 drives in raid 0 for my boot drive

as for Markyd's problem i hate to say it i think he got b!tch$laped with a worm or virus while downloading his B5 game that would explain the missing partition table


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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2004, 03:32:31 pm »
I hate to say it but I agree... either that or I was hacked or somthing..... I cant believe it.... all down the swaney.... time for a beer I think  :(

Thanks guys your input.. as ever was appreciated!  :'(

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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2004, 03:42:46 pm »
i think you need something stronger than a beer mate


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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2004, 03:49:03 pm »
Hmmmmmm.... probably  ;D Thakns Wulf  ;)

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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2004, 04:01:15 pm »
There might be an alternative, but it's a costly one.  Start looking around for data recovery services.  For the most part, if they can't recover any data, they don't charge you anything.  If they recover data, they can back it up onto disk or restore it to the hard drive or another drive.  Problem is, they cost both arms, both legs, your head, kidney, liver, gallbladder, heart, 1 and 3 quarter lungs, and maybe your spleen.  I know it's extremely pricy, but it may be the only alternative you have left.
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2004, 04:05:57 pm »
ROFL..... Costly eh...... xmas coming up too... I might just have to suffer.. thanks anyway man  ;)

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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2004, 04:07:20 pm »
i am confident of his abilities to do the recovary procedure by him self.... to a certain degree as iv suggested earlier try searching on cnet for some of these programs


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