Topic: early tng medium cruiser

[dogfighter]

must be 4 years ago when i send this to ASDB on bernd schneiders www.ex-astris-scientia.org
thought it was lost but i found it on www.treknology.org
it was planed as an alternative design for the tmp era merced class. its a mix of conny refit,excelsior and ambassador elements.

here it is - its quit rough wich is because it was done in ms paint.





ed

[Wolfsglen]

Nice! Works well as a sort-of early precursor to the New Orleans class (one of my favs for some reason)

[E_Look]

Wow!  You did all this in MS Paint?!!

[dogfighter]

i had no other programm when i made this ship. ms paint is quit good for basic shapes and its easy to handle.
all of my retextures were mostly done in mspaint too(firehawk, ulysses, etc).


ed

[Sapharite]

Nice! Works well as a sort-of early precursor to the New Orleans class (one of my favs for some reason)

I am sorry for disagreeing with you but the precursor or predecessor for New Orleans class was a Springfield class But it doesn't matter it really look so... It may be an early "The lost era" design. Yeah create her please...

[Greenvalv]

Can't wait for it!
 
MSPaint, WOW, now that's talent!!

[S33K100]

Nice! Works well as a sort-of early precursor to the New Orleans class (one of my favs for some reason)

I am sorry for disagreeing with you but the precursor or predecessor for New Orleans class was a Springfield class But it doesn't matter it really look so... It may be an early "The lost era" design. Yeah create her please...

Which is odd because the Springfield and New Orleans are both from the same era, and the Springfield has much higher registries suggesting it is infact a newer ship. Also the two have compleeeetely different shapes, this at least actually looks the same shape as a New Orleans.

Looks very nice and I'll start hiring the bolivian assasination squad if somebody doesn't make it soon (The New Statesman injoke, pay no heed).

[Sapharite]

You must read more about those ships. Sprignfield is an older design which carries older warp drive. She was abandoned for production because of one defetc. Her connection pylons to her under pod were under the stress while in WARP. NO class was commissioned later and was a test bed for Galaxy like warp drive. That is why her engines are longer then galaxies in comparison. NO had a teething troubles with her warp coils. Springfield was indirect predecessor to NO which later carried some of Springfields duties  


A Call for Duty Website:

The New Orleans Class Development Project began in 2334 with the intent of expanding upon the successful Springfield-class design and ushering in a new era of warp propulsion originally conceived for the Transwarp project.  While falling far short of the expected speeds that the Transwarp project promised, new advances in warp geometry allowed computer simulations to postulate that speeds in excess of Warp 9.2 were possible, greatly improving over the Warp 8.9 limit that the Springfield suffered.  While retaining the familiar saucer section of the Springfield, the most noticeable addition to the New Orleans spaceframe is the engineering section and redesigned warp nacelles.  Coupled with a revolutionary isolinear computer system and the unique ability to be equipped with mission-specific pods, the New Orleans quickly became a favorite during the mid-24th Century. 

Comission dates:
Springfield - 2352-2354
New Orleans - 2364-present


Dimensions:
Springfield
Length : 289 m
Beam : 487 m
Height : 76 m
Decks : 10

New Orleans
Length : 350 m
Beam : 290 m
Height : 83 m
Decks : 19


Images:
Springfield


New Orleans



Reference:
http://www.ditl.org/
http://techspecs.acalltoduty.com/neworleans.html
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/

 

[Starforce2]

What would we do without geeks?

[ModelsPlease]

Personally I dont give a frig about any of the tech stuff right now,somebody had to build this one.It screams Lost Era to me.Great work !!!!!
 
-MP

[Starforce2]

I'll distribute this on BCU and a few other places, see if there are any takers.

[S33K100]

You must read more about those ships. Sprignfield is an older design which carries older warp drive. She was abandoned for production because of one defetc. Her connection pylons to her under pod were under the stress while in WARP. NO class was commissioned later and was a test bed for Galaxy like warp drive. That is why her engines are longer then galaxies in comparison. NO had a teething troubles with her warp coils. Springfield was indirect predecessor to NO which later carried some of Springfields duties  

Reference:
http://www.ditl.org/

Aah, the incomprehensible pile of complete and utter bollocks that is DITL.org - what you just quoted is pure speculation pulled out of that site author's arse. The Springfield doesn't even have that pod on the underside - that was assumed from a single badly scanned, printed, photocopied, scanned again, colourised photo from a decade old slideshow and the guy who built the Springfield admitted the pod was just stuck on to make the ship rest properly on the coffe cup they put it on

the New Orleans and Springfield are both clearly from the same era along with the Cheyenne and the Challenger, they are all derivatives of the Galaxy design program from the 2350s and 2360s.

The 'A Call for Duty' site also seem to be fans of pulling stuff out of their proverbial orifices as transwarp was a failed experiment with the Excelsior class over half a centruy before the Springfield class was even designed.

There seems to be a strange secondary hull between the saucer and the TNG coffee cup in the side view. This could be a pod similar to that of the Oberth, or just something attached to the model with adhesive tape - maybe to stabilize it to take a better photo. Ed Miarecki recently confirmed that he actually added such a hull to the model

from the EAS article on the Springfield:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/springfield.htm

Also take a look at the studio model:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/wolf359/springfield-cheyenne-okuda.jpg

I dunno about you but I see no secondary hull at all, the model's shadow is way to close to the model and it completely disappears a fair bit behind the side of the saucer suggesting that it is resting directly on the table, on the site they reckon it was removed just for this photo but I see no reason why.

P.S. this has gotten way off topic - someone make that Merced!

[Dizzy]

Thats fantastic!

[Sapharite]

At least Marauth you should believe in that what I said because you do not have a reasonable source at all  What I did was to gather some information about not cannon ships. if you need another reasonable source check this:

http://www.asdb.net/asdb/docs/sds/neworleans.pdf
http://www.jimkirk.50megs.com/tech.htm

This was taken form

http://www.asdb.net/

As you see a Springfield class has a older tech than the NO class Hehehehehe 

[S33K100]

At least Marauth you should believe in that what I said because you do not have a reasonable source at all  What I did was to gather some information about not cannon ships. if you need another reasonable source check this:

http://www.asdb.net/asdb/docs/sds/neworleans.pdf
http://www.jimkirk.50megs.com/tech.htm

This was taken form

http://www.asdb.net/

As you see a Springfield class has a older tech than the NO class Hehehehehe 

Don't pull that kind of **** on me, all the sources you have posted are complete fan speculation - NO specs exist for either ship, ANY specs you come up with will always be non-canon speculation; these are not fan designed ships, they're canon, from the show and so no fan is entitled to say 'these are official specs' because they never will be.

I don't really need a 'reasonable source' because you don't have one yet - come back when Ed Miarecki or Mike Okuda tells you the specs k?

P.S. it's 'canon', a cannon is a big metal thing that fires shot, hasn't been used in a long time.

P.P.S. once again - this is way off-topic.

[ModelsPlease]

Not that it really matters because I WANT HIS SHIP BUILT PLEASE, but I have 2 models of the Springfiel.One with pod and one without.Ya can never have 2 many ships I always say.
-MP

[Starforce2]

got someone to make it.  He says he may do something slightly different with the neck or something,  says the drawing is inconsistant in one spot or something...forgot just how he put it, and that it might be a tad high poly. He likes it and says he'll do  it. Just need someone to texture when the mesh is finished, he can't texture.   There is another model he just finished,  doing a texture contest,  whoever  can make  it look the best gets their textures released witht the completed  model, and I sugegsted he come here and show it, so, maybe he'll drop by. I wont ruin the surprise...it's an awsome model...

[ModelsPlease]

LOL ya think..............turns out quite a bit more than just those 2 .Always willing to share.
 
-MP

[Sapharite]

Yes she is a nice ship and a state of art if she was done in MS Paint. 
I agree she should be a test bed for a Pre-Ambassador class warp drive

BTW Marauth You can't still say that Springfield and NO has the same Registry numbers because Michael Okuda and Paramount didn't say that. Springfield was not shown on screen at all Thease are your own pathetic theories. And I know what "cannon" and "canon" this was only misspelled word . And Marauth one last off-topic suggestion for you:

SoH 'Iv jay'!  SoH Qu'vatlh

Take care 

[Wolfsglen]

Well the Springfield was shown on screen...although only as a tiny wreck in the Wolf 359 scene. Hardly a good pic and one that sure as hell leads to guesswork in recreating it until the photos of the actual model were released...but it was on screen *technically*.