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U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« on: October 18, 2004, 05:33:34 pm »
Hopefully the server will be up more than once this week for it be downloaded:











Atolm came up with the 'rail-phaser' idea and I salvaged/modified the engines from an older model of the U.S.S. Kirk which I never finished (and have no reason to with LC's s flying around).
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2004, 05:36:36 pm »
I just hope it is up long enough for me to finish downloading!

nice looking ship by the way.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2004, 05:53:54 pm »
Very wonderful a job, WZ.  I really really like this Excelsior variant, and it seems the lineage of the Excelsior-class is logical a choice for an X-Cruiser design for the TMP-era, especially since the Excelsior seemed to fit to be an X-cruiser due to its new tech at the time.  At least in my opinion. *shrug*

Very well-done.  I will go download this.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2004, 05:54:31 pm »
 :o :o :o :o

Did you make that for me--don't answer that, I love it anyway.

THANK YOU!

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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2004, 06:33:08 pm »
I always have a problem with the fed designs that place the impulse engines on front of a warp or pylon. Looks like this one is close...

Nice design, WZ, I'll D/L it and see. ;)
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2004, 06:40:52 pm »
Rail phasers. Wow, what a cool idea for a transition of tech from TMP to TNG era phaser arrays Azel.

Thanks for sharing WZ45.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2004, 06:54:15 pm »
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2004, 07:01:19 pm »
Ok, it passes. ;) The impulse engines are clear of all obstructions... Barely.

Interesting on the shortness of the warp engines. That and the tie in between eras. Unique ship. Wtg.

EDIT: Others have complained b4 and they actually alerted me to the design issue. Surprising how many excelsior type feds are built that have the impulse placed right in front of the warps and pylons...
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2004, 07:13:34 pm »
Quote from: Dizzy on October 18, 2004, 07:01:19 pm
Ok, it passes. ;) The impulse engines are clear of all obstructions... Barely.

Interesting on the shortness of the warp engines. That and the tie in between eras. Unique ship. Wtg.

EDIT: Others have complained b4 and they actually alerted me to the design issue. Surprising how many excelsior type feds are built that have the impulse placed right in front of the warps and pylons...

Hmmm   and all this time I thought it was just me .....  BTW.. it should be noted that some of those are pretty good sized impulse engines at that ..  and to be positioned that way..  Ya cant help but to wonder!

BTW  ...  WZ  ..  top notch stuff as always.  I have always had a certain fondness for the "X" class.  Great detail sir !
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2004, 08:04:38 pm »
that totaly rocks.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2004, 08:31:59 pm »
Exceedingly cool, so cool, I'm gonna download it now when I should be reading my law textbook on employer's liability, seriously it's really cool.

P.S. please, please, please, please, please, please, please say that that Excelsior silhouette is there for a reason beyond size comparison, like maybe you've got one under wraps or something.

Anyway, off to blow up some pirates (just got a copy of OP after every chain of shops told me there were no copies left in the UK ::))

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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2004, 09:20:09 pm »
Cool.  Going into OP now.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2004, 10:48:37 pm »
cool hybrid of the x-era and excelsior class, is it aivalable to download?, also here something that cold be cool, for the tos era a mix of old tos and the x-era before the refit of the enterprise like a prototype engine and designe?.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2004, 01:46:28 am »
beautifull sir...(hmm x era eagle perhaps lol)
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2004, 03:55:37 am »
WZ, the design concept puzzles me. Im impressed with the model, which is why I am curious. I see the engine size and design being a step between that of the Ent and Excel., but you have tng type phaser mounts. It's all so strange given the sorcerers size and configuration and cross tech design. It fits, and then it doesnt. Did you have any other design ideas in mind when you were making it, or how the size and texture configuration was goona be? And what similarities did the Kirk and this one share? What LC's are you talking about concerning why the Kirk didnt ever get completed. What does/did the Kirk look like?

Edit: Oh, and wether it was intentional or not, the perspective shot showing the neck as it trails from the saucer to the aft hull... very Sovereign like. ;) Very smooth.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2004, 05:24:53 am »
Quote from: Dizzy on October 19, 2004, 03:55:37 am
WZ, the design concept puzzles me. Im impressed with the model, which is why I am curious. I see the engine size and design being a step between that of the Ent and Excel., but you have tng type phaser mounts. It's all so strange given the sorcerers size and configuration and cross tech design. It fits, and then it doesnt. Did you have any other design ideas in mind when you were making it, or how the size and texture configuration was goona be? And what similarities did the Kirk and this one share? What LC's are you talking about concerning why the Kirk didnt ever get completed. What does/did the Kirk look like?

Edit: Oh, and wether it was intentional or not, the perspective shot showing the neck as it trails from the saucer to the aft hull... very Sovereign like. ;) Very smooth.

if  u look really   close at the dark ring on the  dorsal  saucer you'll see little   yellow trapizoids   with a pair of  tmp  turrets on them. It doesn't have tng arrays near as  I  can  figure.

And he's refering to the James T Kirk by LC Amaral, the model is done and out for BC, likley darkdorne doing the sfc version after those ambassadors are finished. It's on BCfiles if you   want to have a look.
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2004, 09:17:03 am »
Great looking ship i especially love the nacelles awsome design im looking forward to flying this baby
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2004, 09:57:23 am »
OUTSTANDING!!  :o
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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2004, 04:33:42 pm »
Dizzy: I was referring to LC Amaral's U.S.S. James T. Kirk (an Atolm design) which he made for BC and was recently converted to SFC by DarkDrone. It should still be on sfc3files.com. I had started my own version a year ago that never got finished and found the remnants of it to use for parts. The Merlin hardly has any resemblance at all to the Kirk and I modified the engines to make them more distinctive.

The impulse engines clear the warp nacelles from all angles, unlike Enterprise-B based ships that have the impulse exhaust flowing right into the bussards (which incidentally, also don't clear the saucer making them relatively useless).

Also, as stated already, the Merlin doesn't have arrays but 'rail phasers'. The phaser emitters move along the track, increasing their firing arcs. TNG arrays are the next logical step since instead of moving the emitter, they 'move' the beam. The registry number and technology set the ship after the Excelsior. X-Ships have always struck me as being in the gray-area of design lineage. Starfleet probably wouldn't design a totally brand new ship just to test out their X-tech so they would've borrowed from pre-established designs to reduce the production costs (and to cut losses should the new tech turn out to be a flop).

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Re: U.S.S. Merlin - Sorcerer Class X Era Heavy Cruiser
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2004, 04:51:35 pm »
be very carfull not to lose it
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