Topic: check this out guys

[vsftie]

Group: Members
Posts: 18
  Posted: Sep. 26 2004, 11:59 pm 

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Surprised no one else has  posted this, VERY relevant to the future of ST:O

The following is taken from the  Star Trek Gamers Directory this was Victor1st's announcement

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Earlier on yesterday night sometime the go ahead was announced for the news about STAB to become public.

S.T.A.B is the Star Trek Advisory Board. A small group of trek gaming community leaders who will be essentially the middle men between Paramount and any game developers and the gaming community who likes to give as much feedback as they can. One of the many reasons for the launch of the Advisory Board was for news. The STAB will essentally become the eyes and ears of Parmaount/Perpetual and any new game developers and publishers who pop up in Star Trek gaming in the future.

Who is in STAB? There is only 2 right now. You'll know the following name...ChessMess. ChessMess has been around in the trek game world almost as long as i have. He runs the huge Universe network located at www.stgu.com and also has Starfleet Command Universe, Bridge Commander Universe, Elite Force Universe and Armada Universe under his belt. Your all probably wondering who the second person is...lol...

...it's me (there goes the neighborhood) ROFL!

Right now thre is only 2 people in this, me and ChessMess. Harry Lang of Viacom Consumer Products (hes the head trek game guy) and a selection of Perpetual Entertainment staff are also in the small STAB group. There will be more people invited into it soon, but please dont send in requests...its not up to me or chessmess who gets added to this, its up to the gus at perpetual and Viacom/Paramount.

The deal with STAB is simple. To give the game devs and Paramount info which would help the development of new games, its also there to try and put a slow down on the massive juggernaut called rumour...and before anyone asks, me and chessmess had to sign an NDA so no, you cant get any late breaking news about the new online game.

The fleets have said they needed a voice in the world of the developing trek game, now they have one.

Everyone knows what i am like when it comes to news and views of the Star Trek game world. With the STGD being in the independant spot it has meant that i can get away with reporting someof the more...negatve aspects of what is happening in the trek game world. The first 2 community leaders to be involved and invited by Paramount and Perpetual couldnt have been better choices...Chessmess & Me (V1ctor1st) kinda like chalk and cheese really aint it 

More news about STAB will be announced soon, but please remember, this group has only just been formed, so even i dont have all of the facts regarding what STAB will be doing.
 


Next up we have the announcement from Chessmess of stgu.com, who is also in the advisory board.

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Today marks the public announcement of the Star Trek Advisory Board! A board consisting of Star Trek gaming community leaders who will work with Perpetual Entertainment and Paramount to communicate with the gaming community on many aspects of the upcoming Star Trek Online MMORPG game. Perpetual Entertainment and Paramount are committed to making Star Trek Online an engaging and exciting gameplay experience and want to include the community as much as possible to make it happen!

STAB members will not only relay information about the game to the community, but also relay back the response of those features by the community back to Perpetual and Paramount representatives.

"Perpetual and Paramount already take the time to visit many Star Trek Online focused forums. They recognize and embrace the large fan base that Star Trek has developed over the years. However it can be challenging to be everywhere all the time. Now with the Star Trek Advisory Board they have more eyes and ears to which to hear the communities feedback and ideas! It really shows just how dedicated they are to involve the community from the ground up!" says ChessMess, founder of the Star Trek Gaming Universe ( http://www.stgu.com ) network and member of the team that runs the first Star Trek Online fan site to exist - Star Trek Online Universe (http://online.stgu.com).

STAB members have signed NDA's so that they can be given advanced information on what is planned for Star Trek Online. They in turn will help provide feedback and ideas on that information directly to the developers, as well as help drive community discussion and awareness regarding the game. The advisory board is in its early stages and currently consists of ChessMess from the Star Trek Gaming Universe community (http://www.stgu.com) and Victor from the Star Trek Gamers Directory ( http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/ ).

"Star Trek Online Universe (http://online.stgu.com) will be featuring a bi-weekly round table discussion of information regarding Star Trek Online. It will be a very focused discussion on various aspects of the game that we currently know. The ideas and responses gathered in those discussions will be summarized and given to Perpetual Entertainment for review." says ChessMess. "It's efforts such as STAB that make efforts such as this really worthwhile. When people think their ideas and feelings won't be heard, they don't bother to express them. STAB is an effort to ensure that the community will in fact be heard. The community has said 'Please listen to us' many times and Perpetual and Paramount have responded in a big way with the formation of the advisory board!"


The Star Trek Gamers Directory - http://www.trek-gamers.com / http://www.trek-gamers.com/forum

Star Trek Gaming Universe - http://www.stgu.com
 



if vic is involved this game is done 4

the guys an azz

sorry for saying it but he is and give a dictator that kind of leadership will not b good for this community

[likkerpig]

Chessmess seems like a cool guy.
Vic? 
Could be worse, wt could be involved....
Oh oh, had a preminition....

[Age]

     Victor is fine on this and WT has no say in it what so ever. These are two biggest voices in your community as they run the oldest Star Trek gameing  sites around.

[likkerpig]

     Victor is fine on this and WT has no say in it what so ever. These are two biggest voices in your community as they run the oldest Star Trek gameing  sites around.

 Two biggest voices in my community? No.
I fail to see the relavence of how long a site has been around either.
In any case it is Paramount's call on who they want input from, my or anyone else's opinion is moot unless they want it.

[=SyN=Remick]

Hey Tie?  Why dont you contact Mr Harry Lang himself on these boards and voice your concerns?  Ohh, thats right, you all scared him away with all your negative comments about the future of the game franchise.  Who's bad for the community now?  You shot yourselfs in the foot.  Not only that but reading that same thread where lang is people in here have also managed to scare away one of the lead staff of STGU (trickster) so let's look at whats happened here.

1: The 2 leads of the STAB has had there staff and themselves branded by members in here and either banned, called down or basically hounded out, even by the actual staff and admins of this very organization which is supposed to be "for the community".

2: The representative of ViaCom has been treated the same as well

3: What is basically the 2 leading sites of the trek game world out of the 5 major ones (trekpulse, Section & TrekBBS are the other 3) have been branded with the same brush and i bet the other 3 wont touch this place with a 10 foot stick.

4: Everyone in here looks down on everyone else outside of the SFC world. 

When this MMORPG goes into beta by that time SFC 2 and 3 will be long dead and this site will have nothing to cover and will close.  Its THREE YEARS away, you all think this place will last that long with none of the games being sold and no new gamers coming in?  Half of you in here dont even PLAY trek games anymore (like VSF) so what gives ya'll the right to call anyone else down?  I know that the STGD staff have moved on from the whole dynaverse incident and is now gearing up for 2005, thats what you people should be worried about, next year there is NO new games, NO new players, NO trek games being sold.  The STGD staff cant reply in here so i thought i should reply for them which will probably mean i'll get banned cause i dont agree with the mob mentality that goes on in here.  Hey, you've scared off ViaCom, STGD, STGU and half the other large trek game sites, so whats one small fleet diplomat?  As for you tie, dont you work for IOGC?  I think some of your customers would be particularly interested to see you branding people Nazis.  How would you like it if someone walked into one of your stores while it was packed and shouted that your a Nazi? 

Let's find out shall we?

Lean Remick
=SyN=
The Syndicate Core Fleets Of Star Trek Gaming 1996 ~ 2004

[Cleaven]

Nothing like working grammar to get your message across.

So the Water Nympth is is charge? Brilliant.

I suppose when whatever it is goes to press and turns out to be just another Trek game you'll be telling us we got the game we asked for? I think not, because the game I'm asking for is a good one.

And if it does turn out to be a good game instead of just another Trek game, then great, everybody wins.

[Capt Jeff]

Hey Tie?  Why dont you contact Mr Harry Lang himself on these boards and voice your concerns?  Ohh, thats right, you all scared him away with all your negative comments about the future of the game franchise.  Who's bad for the community now?  You shot yourselfs in the foot.  Not only that but reading that same thread where lang is people in here have also managed to scare away one of the lead staff of STGU (trickster) so let's look at whats happened here.

1: The 2 leads of the STAB has had there staff and themselves branded by members in here and either banned, called down or basically hounded out, even by the actual staff and admins of this very organization which is supposed to be "for the community".

2: The representative of ViaCom has been treated the same as well

3: What is basically the 2 leading sites of the trek game world out of the 5 major ones (trekpulse, Section & TrekBBS are the other 3) have been branded with the same brush and i bet the other 3 wont touch this place with a 10 foot stick.

4: Everyone in here looks down on everyone else outside of the SFC world. 

When this MMORPG goes into beta by that time SFC 2 and 3 will be long dead and this site will have nothing to cover and will close.  Its THREE YEARS away, you all think this place will last that long with none of the games being sold and no new gamers coming in?  Half of you in here dont even PLAY trek games anymore (like VSF) so what gives ya'll the right to call anyone else down?  I know that the STGD staff have moved on from the whole dynaverse incident and is now gearing up for 2005, thats what you people should be worried about, next year there is NO new games, NO new players, NO trek games being sold.  The STGD staff cant reply in here so i thought i should reply for them which will probably mean i'll get banned cause i dont agree with the mob mentality that goes on in here.  Hey, you've scared off ViaCom, STGD, STGU and half the other large trek game sites, so whats one small fleet diplomat?  As for you tie, dont you work for IOGC?  I think some of your customers would be particularly interested to see you branding people Nazis.  How would you like it if someone walked into one of your stores while it was packed and shouted that your a Nazi? 

Let's find out shall we?

Lean Remick
=SyN=
The Syndicate Core Fleets Of Star Trek Gaming 1996 ~ 2004

WHATEVER.........................


When they make another 2D naval starship battle simulator based on Star Trek,  I will be interested. 

Then again, look at how much better SFC3 might of been if Paramount/Activision were actually giving a rats a$$  about what their customers really wanted.....

[vsftie]

Hey Tie?  Why dont you contact Mr Harry Lang himself on these boards and voice your concerns?  Ohh, thats right, you all scared him away with all your negative comments about the future of the game franchise.  Who's bad for the community now?  You shot yourselfs in the foot.  Not only that but reading that same thread where lang is people in here have also managed to scare away one of the lead staff of STGU (trickster) so let's look at whats happened here.

1: The 2 leads of the STAB has had there staff and themselves branded by members in here and either banned, called down or basically hounded out, even by the actual staff and admins of this very organization which is supposed to be "for the community".

2: The representative of ViaCom has been treated the same as well

3: What is basically the 2 leading sites of the trek game world out of the 5 major ones (trekpulse, Section & TrekBBS are the other 3) have been branded with the same brush and i bet the other 3 wont touch this place with a 10 foot stick.

4: Everyone in here looks down on everyone else outside of the SFC world. 

When this MMORPG goes into beta by that time SFC 2 and 3 will be long dead and this site will have nothing to cover and will close.  Its THREE YEARS away, you all think this place will last that long with none of the games being sold and no new gamers coming in?  Half of you in here dont even PLAY trek games anymore (like VSF) so what gives ya'll the right to call anyone else down?  I know that the STGD staff have moved on from the whole dynaverse incident and is now gearing up for 2005, thats what you people should be worried about, next year there is NO new games, NO new players, NO trek games being sold.  The STGD staff cant reply in here so i thought i should reply for them which will probably mean i'll get banned cause i dont agree with the mob mentality that goes on in here.  Hey, you've scared off ViaCom, STGD, STGU and half the other large trek game sites, so whats one small fleet diplomat?  As for you tie, dont you work for IOGC?  I think some of your customers would be particularly interested to see you branding people Nazis.  How would you like it if someone walked into one of your stores while it was packed and shouted that your a Nazi? 

Let's find out shall we?

Lean Remick
=SyN=
The Syndicate Core Fleets Of Star Trek Gaming 1996 ~ 2004

it,s a free country u can do what ever u want Lean Remick,i only call them as i see them

as 4 calling vic a nazi .yup i was out of line there ,i have fixxed it to a politically correct word

as for this place dieing i dont think so un like other they have financial and moral support from the iogc if they ever need it ,same goes 4 sfc3.net


and last i dont work 4 the iogc i own it and my support 4 this community will alway b here and not with poeple the likes of vic

as for the stdg being booted out of here (well i dont know why) but they are a bunch of trouble makes and the funny thing is every one knows it ,but a lot seem to look the other way . well not me .i use to. but not any more !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rod ONeal]

Hey Tie?  Why dont you contact Mr Harry Lang himself on these boards and voice your concerns?  Ohh, thats right, you all scared him away with all your negative comments about the future of the game franchise.  Who's bad for the community now?  You shot yourselfs in the foot.  Not only that but reading that same thread where lang is people in here have also managed to scare away one of the lead staff of STGU (trickster) so let's look at whats happened here.

1: The 2 leads of the STAB has had there staff and themselves branded by members in here and either banned, called down or basically hounded out, even by the actual staff and admins of this very organization which is supposed to be "for the community".

2: The representative of ViaCom has been treated the same as well

3: What is basically the 2 leading sites of the trek game world out of the 5 major ones (trekpulse, Section & TrekBBS are the other 3) have been branded with the same brush and i bet the other 3 wont touch this place with a 10 foot stick.

4: Everyone in here looks down on everyone else outside of the SFC world. 

When this MMORPG goes into beta by that time SFC 2 and 3 will be long dead and this site will have nothing to cover and will close.  Its THREE YEARS away, you all think this place will last that long with none of the games being sold and no new gamers coming in?  Half of you in here dont even PLAY trek games anymore (like VSF) so what gives ya'll the right to call anyone else down?  I know that the STGD staff have moved on from the whole dynaverse incident and is now gearing up for 2005, thats what you people should be worried about, next year there is NO new games, NO new players, NO trek games being sold.  The STGD staff cant reply in here so i thought i should reply for them which will probably mean i'll get banned cause i dont agree with the mob mentality that goes on in here.  Hey, you've scared off ViaCom, STGD, STGU and half the other large trek game sites, so whats one small fleet diplomat?  As for you tie, dont you work for IOGC?  I think some of your customers would be particularly interested to see you branding people Nazis.  How would you like it if someone walked into one of your stores while it was packed and shouted that your a Nazi? 

Let's find out shall we?

Lean Remick
=SyN=
The Syndicate Core Fleets Of Star Trek Gaming 1996 ~ 2004

It's funny, I keep hearing this, "scared Harry Lang off" stuff being spouted by people like you. Harry does come here STILL to comment on pertinent matters. As you have stated, this is an old out of print game that we play here. Except for the possible future income from new games, there's nothing of interest for him here. Harry's job is to promote NEW games, unfortunately (but understandably), not to support old ones.

Things seem to be turned around here. Paramount is promoting a product. We are potential customers. If they don't want to make a product that we are interested in buying, why is that *our bad*? Trust me, if Harry shows up here promoting something that we want, we'll be very thankfull. In the meantime he'll just have to be a bit understanding if we're more interested in staying with this franchise and working on making the game we want to play a better one.

If and when another Trek game comes out that we'll support, Harry will be here hanging with us. Don't be suffering from any delusions, it's his job! It's nothing personal. It's all very simple.

Please, don't paint our feelings for Harry or others from the STGU/STGD with the same brush as those that have been banned here. That's just plain wrong, and worse, a very obvious attempt to be misleading. You're just trawling for flames to try and make this place look bad in the eyes of those who frequent both boards. Those that have been banned, earned it!!! Your rhetoric is very transparent.