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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2004, 12:47:34 pm »
Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2004, 12:55:33 pm »
Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

Hey...what about Gorn....hmmm....beautiful soothing Green.
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2004, 01:05:08 pm »
Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2004, 01:09:08 pm »

The interface is  a small issue in my mind, but if that toggle issue is true, I can see a reason for concern.  Give 'em Beast Raiders!

That is funny!   It has to be an Empire, preferable a "fighter" race.  Federation to the easiest choice.
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2004, 01:11:07 pm »
Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2004, 01:15:12 pm »
Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . (Okay, so it was a fat lizard)

Actually, does anybody give a p00p if we use the Klingon interface for one of the houses?
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2004, 01:17:39 pm »
Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.

hmmm...so UI is set server side?

damn...I was sure I've seen where peeps use another UI cause they cant see the one well for that race they are playing...

 :-\

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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2004, 01:17:56 pm »
Let's see.

Changing UI at this point would require me to change a couple hundred more lines in the sounds text file to get the sounds right......not a large deal since I already changed several hundred to get those three races to spit out Klingon sounds.  Talk about hours of mind numbing cutting and pasting on a white screen with black lettering.  Man I almost went blind !!

Also would mean a new shiplist.   If Feds were used, they couldn't be first in the shiplist.   If there are similar ships in a shiplist, the game will draw ceratin characteristics from the FIRST ship of that name in the list.   If Fed was first, ALL ships on this server would sound like Fed ships.  From shields, to engine "ambient" sounds, to shield bubble hit colors....everything being Fed  blue instead of Klingon Red.

This of course would mean a new installer (Bonk has already put one together).


I have a question though to those that think the "Pause H&R" is such a big deal.

If you have to go to that control panel, and click on the pause button, can't you just as easily click on the H&R target and clear it from the screen?   It seems just as easy to do that as it is to click the little pause button.  Once click does it all either way.
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2004, 01:18:48 pm »
Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . .

This factor is pissing me off as well.  It's NOT COOL that just the house leaders and the few secret handshake folks get to know who'se in which house.  Time to cut the secret trading sessions short, and get to letting us, theplayers, know what's what.

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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2004, 01:22:00 pm »
Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . (Okay, so it was a fat lizard)

Actually, does anybody give a p00p if we use the Klingon interface for one of the houses?


I thought Hooch didn't want the Klingons used for the other reason that the "Imperial Klingons" were the unplayable race that needed to be conquered as well.   It would look silly if the "Main" Klingon Empire was not using red hexs to identify their core world space.
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2004, 01:24:08 pm »

hmmm...so UI is set server side?

damn...I was sure I've seen where peeps use another UI cause they cant see the one well for that race they are playing...

 :-\


You can change a players "race" in SQL without changing their "team."  It's kinda cool actually.
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2004, 01:25:25 pm »
Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.

hmmm...so UI is set server side?


There is a setting in the player side INI file, but it appears to do NOTHING for D2 play:


[UI]
UIType=0
QuickTip=1
Grid=0
OrderDelay=30
HeadingDisplay=0
AutoFilm=1
SkipUpsell=1
ASCIICharacterSet=0


I've tried to change UIType=1  (1 is Klingon, 0 is Fed).    It makes NO difference on a server.   In GSA you CAN change UI, by selecting the ship, and then changing races before clicking in as ready.



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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2004, 01:27:23 pm »


Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

Hey Jeff, anyway those not flying in the same House as Madelf can bribe you to arrange this?  I'm sure they would take up a collection for this one....... ;D

j/k Maddy,

but isn't this taking the normal Klingon Blue Paranoia to an extreme level?

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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2004, 01:29:33 pm »
Let's see.

Changing UI at this point would require me to change a couple hundred more lines in the sounds text file to get the sounds right......not a large deal since I already changed several hundred to get those three races to spit out Klingon sounds.  Talk about hours of mind numbing cutting and pasting on a white screen with black lettering.  Man I almost went blind !!

I haven't look at the file, but can't the "find/replace" function of MS word do this almost automaticlly?

Also would mean a new shiplist.   If Feds were used, they couldn't be first in the shiplist.   If there are similar ships in a shiplist, the game will draw ceratin characteristics from the FIRST ship of that name in the list.   If Fed was first, ALL ships on this server would sound like Fed ships.  From shields, to engine "ambient" sounds, to shield bubble hit colors....everything being Fed  blue instead of Klingon Red.

Put the Klinks at the top of the CLIENT list, only the server list needs to be in the "correct" order to prevent the shipyards from getting all Strangelove on us.

This of course would mean a new installer (Bonk has already put one together).

The Installer was created prematurely.  never should have been made until after everything was tested.


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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2004, 01:31:37 pm »


j/k Maddy,

but isn't this taking the normal Klingon Blue Paranoia to an extreme level?

Actually, I'd bet real money that this will turn into a 2v1 if we use Federation blue as one of the colors.  But it will be fun as all hades  ;D
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2004, 01:37:49 pm »
Just a few quick comments


A) zeppa your a  Klingon and your post shows it

B) MadElf Your a klingon and your post shows it


C) Not to exclude anyone else but -- if your Klingon which we all are on this server -- we dont WHINE we dont CRY and we dont Retreat... we do the best we can with what we have!! If a klingon warrior finds himself at a disadvantage over marines-- he does the best he can win or loose!!

I can appreciate  every single opinion mentioned here but -- come on lets move along this doesn't take much to resolve..
I have to admit I myself agree with ME -- no FED UI -- Hell I would still play but -- I might just challenge the house leader who would make me fly with that interface! As any true warrior would..

Now next issue?
I trust the powers that be can easily resolve this minor issue.

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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2004, 01:43:26 pm »
It is obvious that some people cannot get their heads out of their rectums about this issue. 

We can avoid this childish BS by using the Klingon UI for Dizzaroma.  Does anyone have any objections to that?
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2004, 01:45:36 pm »
Answer please  ;)
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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2004, 01:47:15 pm »
Hmmmm,

perhaps on the next server we should switch around the UI for everyone.

Lets see

Klingon UI for Fed ships

Fed UI for Klingon ships

ISC UI for Gorn Ships

Mirak UI for ISC Ships

Fed UI for Romulan ships (just to keep the Klingon players honest ;D)

Lyran UI for Kzin Ships

Romulan UI for Hydran ships

Fed UI for Lyran ships (nice try Klingon players, but still blue ;D)

yes I think that screws everybody

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Re: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2004, 01:51:26 pm »
Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.

hmmm...so UI is set server side?


There is a setting in the player side INI file, but it appears to do NOTHING for D2 play:


[UI]
UIType=0
QuickTip=1
Grid=0
OrderDelay=30
HeadingDisplay=0
AutoFilm=1
SkipUpsell=1
ASCIICharacterSet=0


I've tried to change UIType=1  (1 is Klingon, 0 is Fed).    It makes NO difference on a server.   In GSA you CAN change UI, by selecting the ship, and then changing races before clicking in as ready.





Ah Ok...I knew it could be set...just not on a dyna....