Topic: KCW: Which house gets what race UI? Look here !

[Capt Jeff]

House Dizaroma :   Mirak

House Kinshaya:    ISC

House S'uhn'ih :     Hydran



Just a reminder.....  ALL HOUSES  wll have Klingon sounds, voice, taunts, mouse pointers, and engine sounds (not music though).

Just thought I'd throw this out here so once the draft list is complete, you will know what UI you are going to be playing with.   

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

I say NO to the Mirak UI. No one has commented on the inability to pause raids successfully with it. This is a huge disadvantage to the house that gets it. I don't know whether it's the mods or whether it has always been a bug in the game, as I never played Mirak before GW1, but I have yet to have the pause feature work despite fresh installs and different campaigns etc.  No one has addressed it and yes it's been posted before. You might recall the Hexx "you can pause raids?" spin-off. Considering all Klingon transporters here, the Mirak UI could be a big disadvantage to the house using it.

[Dizzy]

WTF are u talking about Shogun?

And wtg on the klink stuff Jeff.

[Mace]

Why on earth would you pick the 3 eye-burners???  When it comes to UI's those three just plain hurt.

[GDA-S'Cipio]

I say NO to the Mirak UI. No one has commented on the inability to pause raids successfully with it.

<snip>

 Considering all Klingon transporters here, the Mirak UI could be a big disadvantage to the house using it.

I'd forgotten about that bug!

While I promise to do my level best for whichever house drafts me, I'd like to point out that my skills will be reduced by the Mirak UI.  I do OK with it and I won several PvP's with it in GW3, but I'm never at my best with it.

It burns us.

-S'Cipio

[Corbomite]

WTF are u talking about Shogun?

And wtg on the klink stuff Jeff.

He's talking about the fact that the "pause" button for H&R's doesn't pause the H&R's. If you set H&R's they will go off at range 5 if a shield is down whether you want them to or not. I refuse to use that interface so I hope I'm not on that team.

[Mazeppa]

WTF are u talking about Shogun?

And wtg on the klink stuff Jeff.

He's talking about the fact that the "pause" button for H&R's doesn't pause the H&R's. If you set H&R's they will go off at range 5 if a shield is down whether you want them to or not. I refuse to use that interface so I hope I'm not on that team.

Forgive my ignorance.  Do you mean if you hit the hotkey "pause" you cannot stop hit and runs, or do you mean clicking the toggle on hit and runs on the control panel does not work?

I'm not familiar enough wiht the Mirak interface to have any experience with this problem.

[Corbomite]

The toggle.

[FPF-DieHard]

Can we swap the Kzin interface for Federation?

[el-Karnak]

Can we swap the Kzin interface for Federation?

Does this mean you can fly a F-DNH and I can fly a F-BCF and then we can go take over House Dizaroma?

[Dizzy]

Ok, Stop the Press.

I'm not playing the server if the Mirak UI is used.

[Kroma BaSyl]

I think we found the first bug to squash and the test server isn't even up yet....

Jeff how hard is it to switch this out with another UI?

[Dizzy]

Not hard at all, but Im sure it is time consuming. He switched all the sounds and taunts around.

[KDS-KYTARH]

Hey! Where is this toggle switch located????

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

WTF are u talking about Shogun?

And wtg on the klink stuff Jeff.

Could of sworn that I was typing in English dizzy and I am not Shogun! Please pay closer attention and you might not wind up typing WTF etc.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Hey! Where is this toggle switch located????

In the game manual.


Look at the top right of the panel and you'll see an exclamation like icon. Click on it and it switches/toggles to an icon like the pause button on your cassette or CD player. This way you can pre-assign what you want to hit without fear of them beaming at a bad moment when you have used the pause mode and then with one click you toggle back from the pause mode and send your marines across when you feel it's best to do so.

[KBF-Crim]

Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

[Dizzy]

WTF are u talking about Shogun?

And wtg on the klink stuff Jeff.

Could of sworn that I was typing in English dizzy and I am not Shogun! Please pay closer attention and you might not wind up typing WTF etc.

lol. Got me. My apologies Tobin, I am sick and havent had any sleep for a while. I saw the SHG and added in some vowels. Heh, my bad, dude.

And thanks for pointing that out. It's a serious issue. Er the pause button.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

Cool.   

[Mazeppa]

Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

I think I saw in another post that there was a concern that Klingons would have a small advantage with their "native" interface, so the thought process was to move most people out of their comfort level. 

You could make the arguement that the Mirak who wind up with the mirak interface will have a small advantage, but they wil still be flying ships that may be unfamiliar to them. 

The interface is  a small issue in my mind, but if that toggle issue is true, I can see a reason for concern.  Give 'em Beast Raiders!

[Dizzy]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

[Kroma BaSyl]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

Hey...what about Gorn....hmmm....beautiful soothing Green.

[FPF-DieHard]

Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.

[FPF-DieHard]

The interface is  a small issue in my mind, but if that toggle issue is true, I can see a reason for concern.  Give 'em Beast Raiders!

That is funny!   It has to be an Empire, preferable a "fighter" race.  Federation to the easiest choice.

[madelf]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

[FPF-DieHard]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . (Okay, so it was a fat lizard)

Actually, does anybody give a p00p if we use the Klingon interface for one of the houses?

[KBF-Crim]

Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.

hmmm...so UI is set server side?

damn...I was sure I've seen where peeps use another UI cause they cant see the one well for that race they are playing...

 

[Capt Jeff]

Let's see.

Changing UI at this point would require me to change a couple hundred more lines in the sounds text file to get the sounds right......not a large deal since I already changed several hundred to get those three races to spit out Klingon sounds.  Talk about hours of mind numbing cutting and pasting on a white screen with black lettering.  Man I almost went blind !!

Also would mean a new shiplist.   If Feds were used, they couldn't be first in the shiplist.   If there are similar ships in a shiplist, the game will draw ceratin characteristics from the FIRST ship of that name in the list.   If Fed was first, ALL ships on this server would sound like Fed ships.  From shields, to engine "ambient" sounds, to shield bubble hit colors....everything being Fed  blue instead of Klingon Red.

This of course would mean a new installer (Bonk has already put one together).


I have a question though to those that think the "Pause H&R" is such a big deal.

If you have to go to that control panel, and click on the pause button, can't you just as easily click on the H&R target and clear it from the screen?   It seems just as easy to do that as it is to click the little pause button.  Once click does it all either way.

[madelf]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . .

This factor is pissing me off as well.  It's NOT COOL that just the house leaders and the few secret handshake folks get to know who'se in which house.  Time to cut the secret trading sessions short, and get to letting us, theplayers, know what's what.

[Capt Jeff]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . (Okay, so it was a fat lizard)

Actually, does anybody give a p00p if we use the Klingon interface for one of the houses?

I thought Hooch didn't want the Klingons used for the other reason that the "Imperial Klingons" were the unplayable race that needed to be conquered as well.   It would look silly if the "Main" Klingon Empire was not using red hexs to identify their core world space.

[FPF-DieHard]

hmmm...so UI is set server side?

damn...I was sure I've seen where peeps use another UI cause they cant see the one well for that race they are playing...

 

You can change a players "race" in SQL without changing their "team."  It's kinda cool actually.

[Capt Jeff]

Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.

hmmm...so UI is set server side?

There is a setting in the player side INI file, but it appears to do NOTHING for D2 play:


[UI]
UIType=0
QuickTip=1
Grid=0
OrderDelay=30
HeadingDisplay=0
AutoFilm=1
SkipUpsell=1
ASCIICharacterSet=0


I've tried to change UIType=1  (1 is Klingon, 0 is Fed).    It makes NO difference on a server.   In GSA you CAN change UI, by selecting the ship, and then changing races before clicking in as ready.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

Hey Jeff, anyway those not flying in the same House as Madelf can bribe you to arrange this?  I'm sure they would take up a collection for this one.......

j/k Maddy,

but isn't this taking the normal Klingon Blue Paranoia to an extreme level?

[FPF-DieHard]

Let's see.

Changing UI at this point would require me to change a couple hundred more lines in the sounds text file to get the sounds right......not a large deal since I already changed several hundred to get those three races to spit out Klingon sounds.  Talk about hours of mind numbing cutting and pasting on a white screen with black lettering.  Man I almost went blind !!

I haven't look at the file, but can't the "find/replace" function of MS word do this almost automaticlly?

Also would mean a new shiplist.   If Feds were used, they couldn't be first in the shiplist.   If there are similar ships in a shiplist, the game will draw ceratin characteristics from the FIRST ship of that name in the list.   If Fed was first, ALL ships on this server would sound like Fed ships.  From shields, to engine "ambient" sounds, to shield bubble hit colors....everything being Fed  blue instead of Klingon Red.

Put the Klinks at the top of the CLIENT list, only the server list needs to be in the "correct" order to prevent the shipyards from getting all Strangelove on us.

This of course would mean a new installer (Bonk has already put one together).

The Installer was created prematurely.  never should have been made until after everything was tested.

[FPF-DieHard]

j/k Maddy,

but isn't this taking the normal Klingon Blue Paranoia to an extreme level?

Actually, I'd bet real money that this will turn into a 2v1 if we use Federation blue as one of the colors.  But it will be fun as all hades 

[ShadowLord]

Just a few quick comments


A) zeppa your a  Klingon and your post shows it

B) MadElf Your a klingon and your post shows it


C) Not to exclude anyone else but -- if your Klingon which we all are on this server -- we dont WHINE we dont CRY and we dont Retreat... we do the best we can with what we have!! If a klingon warrior finds himself at a disadvantage over marines-- he does the best he can win or loose!!

I can appreciate  every single opinion mentioned here but -- come on lets move along this doesn't take much to resolve..
I have to admit I myself agree with ME -- no FED UI -- Hell I would still play but -- I might just challenge the house leader who would make me fly with that interface! As any true warrior would..

Now next issue?
I trust the powers that be can easily resolve this minor issue.

KHH_ShadowLord

[FPF-DieHard]

It is obvious that some people cannot get their heads out of their rectums about this issue. 

We can avoid this childish BS by using the Klingon UI for Dizzaroma.  Does anyone have any objections to that?

[Capt Jeff]

Answer please 

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Hmmmm,

perhaps on the next server we should switch around the UI for everyone.

Lets see

Klingon UI for Fed ships

Fed UI for Klingon ships

ISC UI for Gorn Ships

Mirak UI for ISC Ships

Fed UI for Romulan ships (just to keep the Klingon players honest )

Lyran UI for Kzin Ships

Romulan UI for Hydran ships

Fed UI for Lyran ships (nice try Klingon players, but still blue )

yes I think that screws everybody

<ducks>

[KBF-Crim]

Thats kinda nutty....is there any reason all houses cant use the klink UI?

I thought this could be changed with an INI setting...

Only with SQL is this possible.  We ain't using SQl.

hmmm...so UI is set server side?

There is a setting in the player side INI file, but it appears to do NOTHING for D2 play:


[UI]
UIType=0
QuickTip=1
Grid=0
OrderDelay=30
HeadingDisplay=0
AutoFilm=1
SkipUpsell=1
ASCIICharacterSet=0


I've tried to change UIType=1  (1 is Klingon, 0 is Fed).    It makes NO difference on a server.   In GSA you CAN change UI, by selecting the ship, and then changing races before clicking in as ready.

Ah Ok...I knew it could be set...just not on a dyna....

[GDA-S'Cipio]

Answer please 

You've selected only one system to hit-and-run.  If I choose to hit the enemy's Disruptors, for example, I will normally select all four.  This way your odds of hitting one disruptor do not go down, but your odds of hitting all four go up.

Either way, you are going to send all 7ish marines.  Why not take the chance to get more out of them?


<S'Cipio steps into fantasy land>
This whole problem would go away if we had a hotkey for hit-and-runs.  I can't imagine why we don't, when we have a hotkey for virtually everything else, including a lot of things I don't think we need one for.  Maybe when we have access to the source code.....

-S'Cipio

[Capt Jeff]

I haven't look at the file, but can't the "find/replace" function of MS word do this almost automaticlly?

No, the sounds text is a maze of different "pointers" to wav files.

Just a sample.....lets say red alert voice:
kSndRedAlert   alrdfed.wav   Red alert Klaxon
kSndYellowAlert   alyefed.wav   Yellow alert Klaxon
kSndKliRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndKliYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndRomRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndRomYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndHydRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndHydYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndLyrRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndLyrYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndGorRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndGorYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndISCRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon      
kSndISCYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndMirRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndMirYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
**************************************************************

As you can see, I did modify EVERY race's red alert to "Point" to the klingon sound file  EXCEPT the Feds.   I figured that there would be no way in hell Fed would be used....lol.  Find and replace would not work in this set up.  It's all manual baby !!

[GDA-S'Cipio]

Hmmmm,

perhaps on the next server we should switch around the UI for everyone.

Lets see

<snip list>

 

+1 Karma to you for that!

-S'Cipio

(Though, for the record, I find the ISC interface very clean and easy to use. )

[FPF-DieHard]

I haven't look at the file, but can't the "find/replace" function of MS word do this almost automaticlly?

No, the sounds text is a maze of different "pointers" to wav files.

Just a sample.....lets say red alert voice:
kSndRedAlert   alrdfed.wav   Red alert Klaxon
kSndYellowAlert   alyefed.wav   Yellow alert Klaxon
kSndKliRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndKliYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndRomRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndRomYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndHydRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndHydYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndLyrRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndLyrYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndGorRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndGorYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndISCRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon      
kSndISCYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
kSndMirRedAlert   alrdkli.wav   Klingon
kSndMirYellowAlert   alyekli.wav   
**************************************************************

As you can see, I did modify EVERY race's red alert to "Point" to the klingon sound file  EXCEPT the Feds.   I figured that there would be no way in hell Fed would be used....lol.  Find and replace would not work in this set up.  It's all manual baby !!

That blows . . .

[Capt Jeff]

Well, a massive redo of most files and we could do this.

Have Hooch make the map for the Cartels.

Put Klingon ships in three cartel slots.

EVERYONE gets stuck with the same Pirate UI's....

 

[Corbomite]

Answer please 

Your lack of understanding is apparent. The pause toggle is not to turn off or deselect targets. You use it to set up your H&R's beforehand and then to use them when you want to; at a time of your choosing without having to choose targets on the fly. It is extremely useful and many players use it a lot.

I'm sorry for the work involved and that you didn't know about it sooner, but it is a fixable problem that was caught before the server started. I'm tired of having one faction on a server told to suck it up when a handicap is discovered in one of these mods. Its time for the admins to suck it up and fix these things before they turn into problems.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

As per Scipio's comment, I for one would use more than 1 marine at a time, so yes it does matter big time whether the pause button works or not, as you have to click in and out all that were selected and when we are talking 5 to 7 transporters, that's more than just one little click to save an ill timed transport. Seconds can be precious in a battle.

[FPF-DieHard]

Your lack of understanding is apparent. The pause toggle is not to turn off or deselect targets. You use it to set up your H&R's beforehand and then to use them when you want to; at a time of your choosing without having to choose targets on the fly. It is extremely useful and many players use it a lot.

What is funny about this is either the Mirak never knew about this, never cared, or never really used Hit & Run raids to have noticed it. 

It kind of makes sense considring H&R are used way more on GSA than D2 and few people fly Mirak on GSA.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Hey can you blame the Kzin marines,

They see a down shield and it like someone turned on a canopenner.  What transporter tech is gonna tell a group of hungry Kzin Marines that they have to wait for dinner.....

[FPF-DieHard]

If you get into range 5 of a Kzin ship with downed shields, you have bigger problems 

[FPF-DieHard]

Back on topic:  Give Dizzaroma the Klingon UI and there is no issue.

Again, does anyone really have a problem with this?

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Your lack of understanding is apparent. The pause toggle is not to turn off or deselect targets. You use it to set up your H&R's beforehand and then to use them when you want to; at a time of your choosing without having to choose targets on the fly. It is extremely useful and many players use it a lot.

What is funny about this is either the Mirak never knew about this, never cared, or never really used Hit & Run raids to have noticed it. 

It kind of makes sense considring H&R are used way more on GSA than D2 and few people fly Mirak on GSA.

Actually I never knew about a pause button until recently. Figured it was the same for everyone.

Now that I do know I realize that this was the reason for all my p v p loses as a Kzin..... j/k

seriously though I wonder if there is anyway to fix this or is it in the source code?

Not that it is that big of a deal, we Kzin are capable of overcoming this minor disadvantage, besides our opponents need a handicap anyhow.....

[Capt Jeff]

Answer please 

Your lack of understanding is apparent.

 

I understand how to perform Hit and run raids...

Looks like Hooch has a decision.

Any race change will require a re-do of the map and shiplist.  If we don't use Fed, then it will have to be a PF race and a donor fighter race will need to be modified( that will screw up some of the finer details, but if people don't mind half assed, then it's ok).



Looking more and more like a November launch.   Is GW4 ready?  

[Capt Jeff]

Actaully, if Klingon were used, it would just mean a map change.  All other files would still work.

The race names file would need to be tweeked in the strings and the server gf files....a lot less work the assigning Feds or a PF race..

[FPF-DieHard]

Any race change will require a re-do of the map and shiplist.  If we don't use Fed, then it will have to be a PF race and a donor fighter race will need to be modified( that will screw up some of the finer details, but if people don't mind half assed, then it's ok).

use Klingon    No technical isues and 5 minutes of map editing.  problem solved.  The technical issues trump any whining over favoritism.

[FPF-DieHard]

Actaully, if Klingon were used, it would just mean a map change.  All other files would still work.

The race names file would need to be tweeked in the strings and the server gf files....a lot less work the assigning Feds or a PF race..

Great minds think alike 

[ShadowLord]

Great see -- I knew it was easy to fix --

I do however have a question for ya here -- does this situation affect the mirak interface when used in GSA?, and if it does -- is it fixed by just switching skins when in ship selection at space dock?

Considering KHH went Mirak for this cycle in ladder play -- it would be interesting to know LOL

[Capt Jeff]

PS,

it would involve a client side change to the shiplist to put the klingons at the top of the list.  That would only take about 5 minutes though, so no sweat there....  

[FPF-DieHard]

Great see -- I knew it was easy to fix --

I do however have a question for ya here -- does this situation affect the mirak interface when used in GSA?, and if it does -- is it fixed by just switching skins when in ship selection at space dock?

Considering KHH went Mirak for this cycle in ladder play -- it would be interesting to know LOL

it's not an issue for ladder play, you can change the UI there. 

[Bonk]

This of course would mean a new installer (Bonk has already put one together).

The Installer was created prematurely.  never should have been made until after everything was tested.

No problem to update it. I did it early to get the work done when I could, updates are quick and easy for the most part. I fully expected files to change before the server start (missions have already changed once, and I expect this to be the first in a series of changes in the shiplist). We could edit the flatfile after everyone has logged in as Klingon to the desired race slot, preserving the Klingon UI if we really wanted to.

Anyway, I'll keep an eye on things and update the installer as necessary.

[madelf]

I would happily accept mirak UI as a 'handicap'.

[Matsukasi]

What is funny about this is either the Mirak never knew about this, never cared, or never really used Hit & Run raids to have noticed it. 

It kind of makes sense considring H&R are used way more on GSA than D2 and few people fly Mirak on GSA.

We knew, didn't care, AND never really used H&R. The 'nip cabinet never showed as a viable target, hence our complete lack of interest in the whole process. 

Honestly, I did know but never really thought it was a big enough deal to bring up. Seemed much more important to fan the flames in the anti-drone threads. < snicker >

[el-Karnak]

Mirak UI for ISC Ships

*Frog stomping up and down madly*

THE ISC ARE NOT DRONERS!! WE DON"T KNOW WHAT DRONES ARE!! WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE MIRAK UI WITHOUT THE DRONES!! WE ARE CONFUSED!! IT BURNS US!!  WE ARE LOST, MY PRECIOUS!!

JUST SAY NNNNNOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEE111111111SSS TO THE DRONE THINGIE!!

*pant, pant, pant*

BTW, will the PPD and PlasI thingies still work?  If those works then it's OK. Catchy Mirak tunes. We like that.

Meow Baby.

[Green]

What is funny about this is either the Mirak never knew about this, never cared, or never really used Hit & Run raids to have noticed it. 

Nope it is known by the Kzin who still play ... I'm just use to clicking off the teams to halt the H&R.

Regardless, valid points on the weakness of the Mirak UI.  If its changed, cool.  But if it isn't, doesn't bother me ... use to it.

PS - Will be offline 18-22 Oct

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

I would happily accept mirak UI as a 'handicap'.

Good then I expect you to be flying Mirak next server they are available as an option.  It will be good to have you as a wing for a change MadElf.

[GDA-Agave]

ISC UI for Gorn Ships

yes I think that screws everybody

<ducks>

MY EYES!!  MY EYES!!

Do not do this to us.   How could anyone come up with such a fiendish thought. (Oh, it's Chuut, nevermind.   )

Not only would the bright, fiendish glow of the ISC UI hurt our eyes, but the pinkness would only give me nightmares of what Kroma would do to the Confederation if it took over.

Just give me that dark green glow that illuminates my cave so little.   The only lights I need to see is the eyes of my dinner looking back at me, and the warm red glow of my lava heated  rockbed.     Home, sweet home!!

Agave

[Mazeppa]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . (Okay, so it was a fat lizard)

Actually, does anybody give a p00p if we use the Klingon interface for one of the houses?

I thought Hooch didn't want the Klingons used for the other reason that the "Imperial Klingons" were the unplayable race that needed to be conquered as well.   It would look silly if the "Main" Klingon Empire was not using red hexs to identify their core world space.

Which house is the "Main" Klingon house, since we there is a full draft?  Got the impresion that the "Imperial Klingon" concept was gone some time ago.

[Kroma BaSyl]

Ill take the fed UI.

Its the only other choice.

NOT FUNNY.  Nor is it an option.  Rom, Gorn, Lyran UIs are fine and acceptable choices.  Fed UI I will not play on the server under.

You aren't in this house, a little birdy informed me of that . . (Okay, so it was a fat lizard)

Actually, does anybody give a p00p if we use the Klingon interface for one of the houses?

I thought Hooch didn't want the Klingons used for the other reason that the "Imperial Klingons" were the unplayable race that needed to be conquered as well.   It would look silly if the "Main" Klingon Empire was not using red hexs to identify their core world space.

Which house is the "Main" Klingon house, since we there is a full draft?  Got the impresion that the "Imperial Klingon" concept was gone some time ago.

I think that it is just being used as an AI only race. None of the Houses are the "Imperial Klingon's".

[KBF-Crim]

None of the Houses are the "Imperial Klingon's".

Yeah..too bad too...that was one of the reasons I wanted to play in the first place...to defend my empire against the usurping houses...even gravely out numbered.....

I waited for this server for a LONG time...even talked in person to one of the admins about how jacked I was about defending the empire proper against the rebels.... Too bad this got "changed" as a reaction to something else...

Obviously...I'm still a little unhappy about it.....

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

None of the Houses are the "Imperial Klingon's".

Yeah..too bad too...that was one of the reasons I wanted to play in the first place...to defend my empire against the usurping houses...even gravely out numbered.....

I waited for this server for a LONG time...even talked in person to one of the admins about how jacked I was about defending the empire proper against the rebels.... Too bad this got "changed" as a reaction to something else...

Obviously...I'm still a little unhappy about it.....

well actually the Imperial Klingons were a reaction as well, Hooch just went back to his origional idea.  However I see no reason why we couldn't do a sequel where the winning team had to defend their throne once again, or perhaps a team made up of Klingon regulars.

[KBF-Crim]

Rgr that Chuut....I'm hip to the sitch...

I'll get over it...some year

Meanwhile...I'm gonna school some peeps with my repressed blood fever....

[madelf]

I would happily accept mirak UI as a 'handicap'.

Good then I expect you to be flying Mirak next server they are available as an option.  It will be good to have you as a wing for a change MadElf.

Oh, ya?  You want that?  Then make a new topic, where all you type is the theme song to Pinky and The Brain.  In entirety. No skipping any words, we wanna hear it all!

PS  Do it naked standing on a box.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

I would happily accept mirak UI as a 'handicap'.

Good then I expect you to be flying Mirak next server they are available as an option.  It will be good to have you as a wing for a change MadElf.

Oh, ya?  You want that?  Then make a new topic, where all you type is the theme song to Pinky and The Brain.  In entirety. No skipping any words, we wanna hear it all!

PS  Do it naked standing on a box.

Very well

Pinky and the Brain

They're Pinky and The Brain
Yes, Pinky and The Brain
One is a genius
The other's insane.
They're laboratory mice
Their genes have been spliced
They're dinky
They're Pinky and The Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain.

Before each night is done
Their plan will be unfurled
By the dawning of the sun
They'll take over the world.

They're Pinky and The Brain
Yes, Pinky and The Brain
Their twilight campaign
Is easy to explain.
To prove their mousey worth

They'll overthrow the Earth
They're dinky
They're Pinky and The Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Narf!


See, I'm naked standing on a box......Even Likkerpig the Lyran joined in as well

Hey, its not my fault you didn't specify what kinda box...... 


MEOW BABY!

As a bonus

They're K'Pinky and the Brain,
yes, K'Pinky and the Brain.
One is a Warrior, the other's insane
They've been caged up like mice,
amid Rura Penthe's ice,
They're K'Pinky,
They're K'Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain.


They plot and they conspire,
deeds so evil and so dire,
that by the dawning of the sun,
they'll take over the Empire.


They're K'Pinky and the Brain, yes, K'Pinky and the Brain,
their twilight campaign, is easy to explain.
To prove their Klingon worth, they'll crush the Universe,
They're K'Pinky,
They're K'Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain.

and finally,

Pinky, Elmyra and the Brain

The situation's changed
For Pinky and the Brain
No laboratory
Alone in the rain.
And someone's looking 'round
For where they might be found
It's stinky
For Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Brain.

Their pressure magnified
With every lab they tried
They had to flee constantly
Needing a place to hide.

Trapped inside a store
A girl ran in the door
She bought a discount turtle
But ended up with more.

Elmyra: Furry things are nice
I love my talking mice
I take them to school
And make them eat rice.
I spray them with perfume
In my own bedroom

They're crinkly
And often in great pain, pain, pain, pain,
Pain, pain, pain, pain,
Brain.

So Pinky and the Brain
Share a new domain
It's what the network wants
Why bother to complain?
The Earth remains a goal
Some things they can't control
They're Pinky
Elmyra and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Brain : (vo) I deeply resent this.
Chorus: Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Pinky : (vo) Troz! (laugh)
Elmyra: Mousies!!


P.S.  Soreeyes you owe me, as I just saved you from Madelf for at least 1 server......

[Corbomite]

"That's brilliant Pinky! Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"

"I think so Brain, but how do we get the chicken to wear the nylons?"

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Nice Corbo.....

some of my favorite Pinky and the Brain Quotes:

Pinky: Hmmm... let me think...
Brain: Don't hurt yourself, Pinky.


Pinky: Egad!  This is even better than a DuckTales episode, Brain!
           
B:  Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
P:  Wuh, I think so, Brain, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?

P: Gee, Brain, what are you doing over there?
B: Pondering your afterlife, Pinky.

B: Brilliant, Pinky! Oh, no, wait. What if we want to use a plan that works?


B: Remember, I'm not just the president of the Small Club for Men, I'm also a mouse planning world domination.

B: Here we are, Pinky--at the dawn of time!
P: Narf, Brain. Wake me at the noon of time.

P: Egad! You astound me, Brain!
B: That's a simple task, Pinky.

and the all time greatest

B:  Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
P:  Uh, I think so, Brain, but this time, you wear the tutu.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

http://www.hotink.com/HST/kp01.html          k'pinky and the brain link

[Commander Maxillius]

Why can't everyone get stuck with the Pirate interface?


wait, answered my own question, the pirate interfaces are linked to the hex color, and we'd have to use the pirate layer, which doesn't affect the empire layer, therefore making...


HMMMMM why not?  It would ensure lots of imperial Klingon AI

[madelf]

OK Chuut!  You earned it!  First just-fun server we get, I'm with ya.

[[KBF]MuadDib]

OK Chuut!  You earned it!  First just-fun server we get, I'm with ya.

whatever...didnt even get to see him naked... 

[madelf]

OK Chuut!  You earned it!  First just-fun server we get, I'm with ya.

whatever...didnt even get to see him naked... 

Gimme yer email dibbers, I got some Chuut pRon to forward to you.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

OK Chuut!  You earned it!  First just-fun server we get, I'm with ya.

Many will die but we will laugh more than the casualty count.....

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

OK Chuut!  You earned it!  First just-fun server we get, I'm with ya.

whatever...didnt even get to see him naked... 

Hey you caught me with my pants down last time we flew against each other aint that enough?

Prediction Yacko Whako and Dot ride.

[Soreyes]

P.S.  Soreeyes you owe me, as I just saved you from Madelf for at least 1 server......

 

[[KBF]MuadDib]

OK Chuut!  You earned it!  First just-fun server we get, I'm with ya.

whatever...didnt even get to see him naked... 

Hey you caught me with my pants down last time we flew against each other aint that enough?

Prediction Yacko Whako and Dot ride.

well ok...u did mention how it had been awhile since you had been "owned"...

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

OK Chuut!  You earned it!  First just-fun server we get, I'm with ya.

whatever...didnt even get to see him naked... 

Hey you caught me with my pants down last time we flew against each other aint that enough?

Prediction Yacko Whako and Dot ride.

well ok...u did mention how it had been awhile since you had been "owned"...

After our match that was a statemnet I could no longer make.....

For Indeed I was OWN3D.