Topic: Off Topic Dolphins vs Steelers Lets hear Scippy and Agave talk some trash

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Jeez o Pete's... have you seen the condition the field is in?

Mud Bowl 2004!!!

Currently Steelers lead 13 - 3

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Oh yeah.. 6:16 left in the 4th.

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

Now a final score...  Pit 13 MIA 3.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

P.S.  My prediction is for a steel harpoon to embed itself in the Dolphins, Steelers by 10.

*cough* *cough*

[GDA-Agave]

How am I not surprised Chuut ended making this thread about him??   Anyone else surprised??    j/k

Steelers win Miami mudbowl 13 to 3. 

Thank God for Olindo Mare, otherwise the Fish might have never scored.

Damn, I love football games with interesting weather!!

Now, Scipio, you get you eat some crow with your dirt.   Funny, I still haven't seen any dirt eating pirctures there, Scippy ole pal.   Oversight on your part?   (ya lying bastard!!)


Agave
Satisfied Steelers fan

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

You know Agave, we should arange to get some of the mud from the game for Scippy to dine on, what dirt could taste so good.....

[GDA-Agave]

Good idea there Chuut.   We might have to ask our buddy down there to bring some up for the wedding.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Bump just because I really hate the Dolphins......

[GDA-S'Cipio]

Bump just because I really hate the Dolphins......

Oh, no you do not.  You just really like needling me. 

-S'Cipio

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

No that is a perk.....

First team to go undefeated and winless?

has a ring to it.

[Julin Eurthyr]

Sorry about Olindo Mare there S'cip...

Caused Wannstead to go with one too many 4th and a lots...

Oh well.  Carry the fact that your team allowed the Pats to win their 19th in a row, knocking a lot of teams out of the record book, on your sholulders...

(Does this work too??? )

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

And the PATS are doing it with free agancy and salary caps, 2 hanicaps Miami didn't have in '72....

[Dizzy]

P.S.  My prediction is for a steel harpoon to embed itself in the Dolphins, Steelers by 10.

My prediction is that it wont take long for Lepton to find this post, report it and get it moved...

My Cowboys lost. ::sniff:: They owned the 1st half then they freaking fell apart like a bad suit in the rain second half. WTF is wrong with them? They remind me of the Spurs last season vs the Lakers.

[GDA-S'Cipio]

My Cowboys lost. ::sniff::

The only good part of this whole thread!

Sorry Dizz, but misery loves company.

And no, sorry, this does not break Miami's record.  The Pats unbeaten streak crosses over two seasons, giving them a whole off-season for them to freshen up, plug wholes in their lineup, and face opponents (like Miami) who have had sudden wholes appear in their lineup during the offseason.

They are still doing a fantastic job as a franchise.  If they make it back to the superbowl, I'll be pulling for them.  They are not, however, one squad of guys doing an entire season unbeaten.  At least not yet.  Talk to me in November and maybe I'll have something to worry about.

In the meantime, I'll just worry about another "perfect" season by the weakened Dolphins.  (Just not perfect in the way that I'd like this time.....)

-S'Cipio

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Here is an interesting article from last year for ya Scippy.......

Undefeated Dolphins nowhere near perfect
  Wednesday, November 19th, 2003
   
   
 By Jim Margalus 

 The Chiefs lost their first game of the season last week, leaving a total of zero undefeated teams in the NFL this year.
As usual, the members of the 1972 Miami Dolphins, the only team to go undefeated through an NFL season, held a champagne toast to commemorate their uniqueness, and in the process made themselves a great example of bad sportsmanship once more.

For some reason, sportscasters adore the idea of the likes of Bob Griese, Larry Csonka and Paul Warfield celebrating both their achievement and the failure of others. Perhaps there?s something attractive about watching grown men reveal their insecurities.
 

There is no need to revel in the failure of another team, and certainly no need to put a hex on teams trying to climb that mountain, like they did with the 1985 Bears - especially for a record that can?t even be broken.

The Dolphins went 17-0 that year ? 14-0 through the regular season, plus three post-season wins. An undefeated team would win 19 games due to two extra games during the regular season.

But numbers are not what is at stake here. The Dolphins were undefeated - they?ve been remembered for that ever since, and they will be remembered for that for years to come. Undefeated is enough, and the number of wins is a mere formality.

Whether another team wins every game does nothing to hurt that Dolphins team?s image. But perhaps those Dolphins are scared of being the worst undefeated team in NFL history, should another team duplicate that achievement.

Miami that year had two 1,000-yard rushers in Larry Csonka and Mercury Morris and a bunch of other memorable players, but what else did they have going for them?

Only the easiest schedule in the NFL. The Dolphins? combined schedule amounted to 70-122-4. That means the Dolphins? average opponent won only 5 games that year during the regular season, which is not a gauntlet by any means.

   
 Bill Walsh and Joe Montana fell one game short of perfection in 1984.
Even with the great amount of parity yielding pretty mediocre teams these days, a schedule-maker would be hard-pressed to create one as easy as that. The Dolphins would have practically been a disappointment had they lost even one or two games that year.

The 1984 San Francisco 49ers and those ?85 Bears capped off their one-loss seasons with Sherman-esque marches through the playoffs and dominating wins in the Super Bowl. The Dolphins beat the Washington Redskins 14-7 in Super Bowl VII, with the most memorable play being Miami kicker Garo Yepremian?s pathetic empty-handed ?pass? right into Washington?s Mike Bass? arms, which Bass returned for the lone Redskins score.

So perhaps the 1972 Dolphins know deep down in the cockles of their hearts that they had it easy that year, and any future team that finished the season undefeated would do it under assumably more difficult circumstances.
   
 Walter Payton is greater than Emmitt Smith, despite what the numbers may say. 
Either way, you didn?t hear about the family of Roger Maris celebrating every year somebody fell short of his mark of 60 homers that he set in 1960. Maris played in a live-ball era with a left-handed swing that was tailor-made for the short right-field porch in Yankee Stadium, giving him an advantage like the Dolphins had with their schedule.

Connie Payton didn?t call Emmitt Smith?s house early in the morning before game days trying to keep him from running his best and breaking
her husband Walter?s rushing record.

With Maris and Payton (and for a very short period Mark McGwire), they had shatterable records ? numbers that could be surpassed, resulting possibly in a life of obscurity for the once-record holder. This isn?t possible with the Dolphins. Their record is an idea instead of a number, and that idea can't be surpassed unless a team somehow had minus-one in the loss column. Even David Stern couldn?t give that to the Los Angeles Lakers.

   
 There's a reason Garo's mishap was the only memorable thing about Super Bowl VII.
Even though the stakes are much higher when a number is in question, being No. 2 doesn?t tarnish an image. Smith now has the most rushing yards in NFL history, and still Payton, Jim Brown and Barry Sanders are considered better running backs by basically everybody. Hank Aaron has 41 more homers in his lifetime than Babe Ruth, but most would consider Ruth the premier power hitter in the game.

History is kind to those who set records, even if they don?t last, and the 1972 Dolphins should have realized this by now. They played the perfect season, which is as admirable a feat as any in sports. Chances are they won?t have much company, if any.

The Dolphins may never see it this way, and every year they?ll continue to make fools of themselves. The last team will fall from the ranks of the unbeaten, the champagne glasses will clink, and those Dolphins will show how men who never lost can still be such big losers.
 

[Julin Eurthyr]

My Cowboys lost. ::sniff::

The only good part of this whole thread!

Sorry Dizz, but misery loves company.

And no, sorry, this does not break Miami's record.  The Pats unbeaten streak crosses over two seasons, giving them a whole off-season for them to freshen up, plug wholes in their lineup, and face opponents (like Miami) who have had sudden wholes appear in their lineup during the offseason.

For your reference, I am not referring to Miami having lost their distinction as the only undefeated-in-a-season team tag.

I am talking about the fact that Miami, like 4 other teams, had the record of longest winning streak that spans 2 seasons.  As of the start of this season, the record was 18 games.
The '72-'73 Fish were Miami's representation to this 4-team club.  Obviously, Miami went 17-0, then went 1-1 to start '73.  Looks like those skilled Fish (please see Chuut's post about exactly how skilled they are, I believe he said the '72 fish's "strength of schedule" was 5-9 / 5-10 teams...) spent enough time retooling to handle the obviously stronger post-super bowl schedule...
Meanwhile, the Pats took their retooling seriously.  Facing the typical post-super-bowl strong schedule, in what is supposedly one of the toughest divisions in football, the Pats have accumulated a post-retool 4-0 record to go with their 15 game streak from the end of last season.  And, like every NFL team, we don't have our opening day lineup.  Especially in the WR department...
Come to think of it, I think all of the other teams with 18-game streaks (Denver, Chicago and someone else) had longer second-season post-super-bowl streaks than Miami's "power" team did.

They are still doing a fantastic job as a franchise.  If they make it back to the superbowl, I'll be pulling for them.  They are not, however, one squad of guys doing an entire season unbeaten.  At least not yet.  Talk to me in November and maybe I'll have something to worry about.

In the meantime, I'll just worry about another "perfect" season by the weakened Dolphins.  (Just not perfect in the way that I'd like this time.....)

-S'Cipio

I'm hoping the Pats get through next week's Seahawks then the Jets the week after.  That will be the best indication of whether the Pats can join Miami this year, or are your boys still the luckiest boys in the NFL...

[KAT J'inn]

<Looks at Redskins' helmet sitting in office.>


<sniff>

[Kroma BaSyl]

<Looks at Redskins' helmet sitting in office.>


<sniff>

At least you will now have Baseball to look forward to.

[el-Karnak]

Plan A:  Huzienga:  "Ricky!! Come Back!!  All is forgiven!!"  *looks at Fish locker room*  Well, maybe not...GIMME MY MONEY BACK YOU ANTI-SOCIAL WEED-ADDLED HIPPIE LOSER!!

Plan B:  Huzienga to Wannstedt:  "You ARE the weakest link, BUH-BYE!!"

Plan C:  Marino for Fish QB!! Yeah, Baby!!

Plan D:  Huzienga to Arthur Blank, Falcons Owner:  "How about I make all the new Blockbuster store construction use Home Depot for now on and you trade us Michael Vick!!"

Plan E:  "Screw the Stinky Fish that should stick to SeaWorld stunt shows!! GO FALCONS!!"

[Hale]

<Looks at Redskins' helmet sitting in office.>


<sniff>

Only the strong will survive.  Go Eagles!!