Topic: Seven More Ships!! Image Heavy!!

[Red_Green]

any chance of having an image lite versin of this thread? My modem is puking chunks.

[S33K100]

Sorry, I meant the Franz Ferdinano or her variants, minus the weapons at the front. I'm really tired this afternoon...

What I had in mind were Connies that be slightly different to reflect specific differences. Different shipyards putting their own "signature" on their run of Connies using different styled bridge modules, paint jobs, hence using subtle shades of red, orange, brown, etc. Stuff like that.

Different bridges is a tech issue, the bridge on the Franz Ferdinand (remember him, the guy who got shot by a serb? Irony was he planned to have a representative democracy once he got into power where each nationality in his empire would have a say, we could have had a peaceful Europe before the 1920s, oh well...) anyway that bridge is basically the Phase II bridge module, there're a couple of Enterprise variants with it but they're kind of like the USS America, no one would really notice, though that is the sort of customisation that went on in the Tech manuals, like a shipyard would have some weird parts that would never get used so they used 'em on the half-finished Connie they had. The paintjobs I never really gave much thought to alternates, I don't like calling something with re-coloured stripy bits a 'variant' because there's really truly no change. But I should have the USS America variant (rear torpedo, boxy impulse drive and weird lines on the saucer) done when I next send stuff Rogue's way.

Sorry Guest, not my thread, maybe they are a bit excessively large Rogue, next time resize them a bit for the poor 56k plebs (j/k)

[Starforce2]

nah, you can never have too many pix. You can never have screenies that are too big,  either. It's a little thing called *cable* lol So hats off to excessive numbers of large, high res pix.

[USS Mariner]

Mariner, the Franz Ferdinand and Vittorio Amadeo II are the NCL and NCD respectively, they're cruisers, not destroyers, just very compact.

Feel free to modify the Enterprise textures, the delta colour I was taking from the site you pointed me to in the other thread which said the TMP Enterprise had an orangey-yellow delta, oh well, NM.

Is it me, or does that lit detail look like "ENTERPRISE?"

No not really:

http://www.starshipmodeler.com/trek/md_enta-31.jpg

LOL, obviously I had to check that up but yeah, there's nothing written on the side there.

Re: the dashes, as I mentioned in the other thread Starfleet Bold Extended (or my version of it at least) does not seem to have the elongated hyphen so I can't use it if it's not there, as I already mentioned it doesn't bother me too much but if you send me a copy of the font with it then I'll use it, NOT Microgramma Bold BTW as there are several big differences between that and the Starfleet Bold, plus I can't be arsed to do pinstriping around the letters manually, don't even know how TBH.

I knew about the NCL/NCD, just wanted to jab at the Catalyuna a bit.

I knew about the Maritime Model's "orange-yellow" delta, and I don't where the heck they got it. Maybe there was a really bad screenshot or something...

If that ain't writing, then why the hell was it lighted in the screenshot? It's possible that they coulda missed that one teeny detail, afterall. I personally thought thet put it there as a tiny nod to the Enterprise-D (which has a small "ENTERPRISE" next to it's forward torp launcher, suprise surpise.) The last line of TUC was a TNG nod anyway...

I understand about the dashes. I just knew that it was possible in one of the editing programs to make fonts. I forget which though...

[S33K100]

Hmm, I dunno about that TUC pic, the photo I posted is of the model almost immediately after they wrapped up filming TUC and I don't imagine they'd have changed anything after filming, what would be the point?

I hated the last line of TUC it really didn't make sense outside of the context that Kirk was giving the nod to the TNG crew, who he'd never met, and who wouldn't be around for another 70-odd years Oh well.

[Reverend]

somebody's been a busy busy bee!
Thanks for the great work Rogue!

[Rogue NineCH]

so i guess its a NO to my request

I just read your request, and well I have no idea how to do that.  I have never attempted to mod SFC3.  It has been over a year since I have even played it.  I'll tell you what, after I finish the Rogue Class I'll look into it and see if it's doable.

[S33K100]

somebody's been a busy busy bee!
Thanks for the great work Rogue!

*Cough*Cough*

Ahem, anyway, if anyone knows how to mod the ba.stard child of SFC (SFC3) and wishes to make these available for it now then just post in this thread to tell myself & Rogue. Oh and I think WZ should probably be informed if you want to release the models somewhere as these are kitbashed from his work after all.

[Wicked Zombie]

I should point out that I did more than slap a new bridge on the last version of the Connie. Some of the textures had a few minor tweaks, including the saucer maps which have slightly darker hull lines to make them more obvious.

[Rogue NineCH]

I should point out that I did more than slap a new bridge on the last version of the Connie. Some of the textures had a few minor tweaks, including the saucer maps which have slightly darker hull lines to make them more obvious.

Do you have updated blanks to reflect these changes?

[S33K100]

I should point out that I did more than slap a new bridge on the last version of the Connie. Some of the textures had a few minor tweaks, including the saucer maps which have slightly darker hull lines to make them more obvious.

I'm aware of the other texture changes you made but I'd already made them for my own personal use, except the hull line thing, and I've  made other changes based on photos of the studio model and screencaps of the films that I don't think are on your version, the only bit I couldn't recreate myself was the mesh change you made to the bridge, I mean no offence, your model and textures are brilliant but I had way to much time not to mention way to many reference photos and I wanted to make the most accurate possible version of your Enterprise, the only thing I didn't do which I've seen on the studio model AFAIK is remove some of the windows on one side of the sec hull to make it asymetrical, which looked stupid anyway so I undid that change.

[USS Mariner]

Well, since were talking about texture tweeks, here's the new, accurized delta I made. The WZ version was a bit too marroon and wasn't the right shape.

Once I get every change I want done, I can send some of the files to you if you want Marauth.

[Wicked Zombie]

I should point out that I did more than slap a new bridge on the last version of the Connie. Some of the textures had a few minor tweaks, including the saucer maps which have slightly darker hull lines to make them more obvious.

Do you have updated blanks to reflect these changes?

They're included with the rest of the ship along with the Ent-A regs.

I left the logo dark red since on-screen, it had a slightly faded/dark look to it. Not to mention normal red always seemed kinda tacky to me, but that's personal preference. My version isn't specifically accurate to any of the Enterprises (it underwent a number of repaints between movies), and is a blend of all of them which is obviously, another matter of personal taste.

If they did actually add "Enterprise" to the torpedo launcher, it would've only been on the TUC Ent-A since all previous versions have nothing there. Besides that errant close-up shot, which could've been a reuse of the giant section they made for TWOK with minor changes, I've never seen any indication the launcher has anything written there.

[Rogue NineCH]

Yes I found the blanks in the refit constitution zip, after I posted I rmembered you saying that you had put blanks in that zip file.  Thanks for the Help WZ!

[S33K100]

Well, since were talking about texture tweeks, here's the new, accurized delta I made. The WZ version was a bit too marroon and wasn't the right shape.

Once I get every change I want done, I can send some of the files to you if you want Marauth.

That's nice but I agree with WZ it looks tacky in plain red, besides my version is a mixture of what you see in real life and what you see onscreen, that is it looks half like fully lit studio model photos and half like it looked on your tv screen watching the films, for example the aztec pattern is actually much, much lighter in person than it appears on any of these versions, the ship is almost white and you can't really see the aztec at all but on screen it's the more familiar middle grey-silver colour we all know and the aztec it is much more pronounced.

Re: the Enterprise written on the side of the torp launcher, we don't even know if that's what that is in that (rather blurry) screencap and it does not appear anywhere on the (green) TMP version of the ship, nor on the TUC version, I don't know about the TWOK version, maybe they added it then when they repainted the hull to get rid of the pearlescent lacquers which were screwing up their lighting but certainly it was gone by the time they did the 'blue' repaint for STIV.

Interesting thing about the blue version is that they only did the repaint because they forgot to take off the removable damage from STII/III after filming and by the time of the next film it wouldn't come off.

[Wicked Zombie]

They could've used the undamaged side of the TWOK close-up model for that torpedo shot and simply reversed the film. It doesn't show much of that area anyway and the right side of the replica doesn't even have a docking bay (you can see it when the E fires at the BOP in ST 3). If it is the torp-close-up replica, it would explain why there isn't any text on the studio model.

[S33K100]

Possibly, I'd like to get a look at that close up section, all I've seen are the photos of it during filming of TWOK with all the burnt and broken sections one of which would completely cover up the area with the text, so it's possible it was on the other side.

[Wicked Zombie]

The right side of the ship definitely didn't have anything there as it's clearly shown when the E and Excelsior open up on the BOP. They used the studio model for that scene, which raises the question of why the other side looks different and why (if they did in fact use it) did they bother using the TWOK replica at all.

[Wicked Zombie]

Don't know how relevant it is, but I figure I can post it here anyway. For those interested, I whipped up a ST3 style brk model (and it only uses 4 low res maps), and is downloadable at the same section as the standard Enterprise on DRS. Nightsoft is probably offline again so it might be a while.

[S33K100]

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooo frickin cool you have to release that as an actual ship, not just a _brk.mod it's too cool.

Yeah Nightsoft's down I'll check back later.