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Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« on: September 19, 2004, 11:20:59 pm »
Distinguished players,

If it seems that everyone is getting on a Civil War bandwagon, this would seem to be one of them.

However, in case everyone was not in the know, Hooch always wished to do a Klingon Civil War. He then approached me and I told him it could be done and provided him with a draft shiplist which was tested by members of the SSCF for stability, models, etc..... . And low and behold it worked  ;)

Well,

As an avid fan of Babylon 5, I've always thought of doing a campaign based on that theme. So, I figured I do a campaign based on Season 4 of Babylon 5 in which the Shadows have been defeated, and Captain Sheridan goes about to free Earth from the rule of President Clark or Jinn. ;). Take your pick  :rofl:

I am currently researching all information and trying to make this as close as possible.

Ships to be used:(Not cast in stone)
Hyperion
Omega
Sagittarius
Nova
Olympus
Oracle
and of course fighters. Lots of fighters.  :o

as for weapons I intent to match closely as possible the loadouts for all.
This is the only good reference http://patter.mine.nu/sweapon.htm I've been able to find so for example:

Medium Plasma Cannon will be represented by PH 1's
Medium Pulse Cannon will be represented by G Phr's
and so on.

Initial screens are done and will be posted as soon as possible.

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2004, 12:28:22 am »
Cool...

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2004, 12:41:08 am »
I can give you more detail weapon loadouts for all those ships(how you convert them to SFC is up to you) along with alot more ships and variants if you want.
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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2004, 05:51:05 am »
BEst bet I'd say is to find someone with a copy of AOG's B5 Minis game.
I think it's out of print now, but I'm sure someone has it.
Also you could include the "Heavy" Disrupter and phasers for the bigger guns.
(IIRC the heavy dizzy even has kinda the same graphics)
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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2004, 06:49:15 am »
BEst bet I'd say is to find someone with a copy of AOG's B5 Minis game.
I think it's out of print now, but I'm sure someone has it.
Also you could include the "Heavy" Disrupter and phasers for the bigger guns.
(IIRC the heavy dizzy even has kinda the same graphics)

Yep I have it. 
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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2004, 02:06:59 pm »
BEst bet I'd say is to find someone with a copy of AOG's B5 Minis game.
I think it's out of print now, but I'm sure someone has it.
Also you could include the "Heavy" Disrupter and phasers for the bigger guns.
(IIRC the heavy dizzy even has kinda the same graphics)

Actually found some sites with SCS's for B5 ships.

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2004, 02:14:21 pm »
Sweet, sign me up! 
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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2004, 02:24:03 pm »
You know that this would mean no drones.

Shawn, the SFCIII engine would be a better choice since they are all energy based weapons. Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2004, 02:59:27 pm »
Actually they do have missiles they are just handled very differently than in SFC.
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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2004, 07:33:11 pm »
You know that this would mean no drones.

Shawn, the SFCIII engine would be a better choice since they are all energy based weapons. Just my 2 cents.


Oh Hooch, I love it when a Junior Officer tries to upstage his superior officer :smackhead:

Byron please goto http://hyperion.mystarship.com/b5w/ea/sagittarius.htm and have a read.

In the Babylon 5 series normally you only see energy based weapons being used. However the only time I recall seeing missiles was in season 1 episode "A Voice in the Wilderness" when the Great Machine on Epsilon 3 had a missile defense capability.

However Byron, the board game B5 Wars which I never played but have seen (based loosely on SFB) does have some excellent SCS's and I am going to attempt to blend the two.

Is it going to be perfect? NO

Is it going to be cannon? NO

Is it going to be fun and challenging campaign? I'm going to give it my best shot  ::)

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2004, 08:11:15 pm »
Only time I actually recall missles were when the Thunderbolts fired on the Mars colonies.
Don't remember ever seeing a ship to ship launch.
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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2004, 08:15:07 pm »
Only time I actually recall missles were when the Thunderbolts fired on the Mars colonies.
Don't remember ever seeing a ship to ship launch.

Thats possible. But I don't have Season 4 DVD's yet to see it.

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2004, 08:36:55 pm »
As I said- they did, but that's the only time I remeber it.
Although I think it was in Season 3's "Severed Dreams"
<sigh> what w eek this is going to be
Dawn of War, Rome Total War, Star Wars Trilogy, now this has got me running out to buy Season 4 of B5 to watch.

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2004, 09:46:18 pm »
As I said- they did, but that's the only time I remeber it.
Although I think it was in Season 3's "Severed Dreams"
<sigh> what w eek this is going to be
Dawn of War, Rome Total War, Star Wars Trilogy, now this has got me running out to buy Season 4 of B5 to watch.

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Don't forget Season 5  ;)

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2004, 09:53:28 pm »
And now for some screen shots:










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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2004, 10:45:54 pm »
Only time I actually recall missles were when the Thunderbolts fired on the Mars colonies.
Don't remember ever seeing a ship to ship launch.

The heavy ships and bases fired hundreds of "missiles" at each other.  Recall that the EA ships were equipped to shoot these down, though the other races never seemed to bother.  You'd always see the alien firing a ton of shots at the Earther, the Earther fring "AMD", and the line of intersection of these two streams of fire growing ever closer to the Earther......

Recall the episode in Season... two (?) whe Bab5 was trying to cover the last existing Narn capital ship?  The Centauri Heavy pulled up alongside the Babylon Station and unleasheing broadside after broadside.  The Babylon station fired "AMD", the Centauri finally saturated it, blew off a section of the Babylon station, and then the fighters managed to kill the Centauri before it could kill Bab5.

Why the Centauri heavy never launched its own fighters when Bab5 did, I'll never understand.

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2004, 11:30:37 pm »
Only time I actually recall missles were when the Thunderbolts fired on the Mars colonies.
Don't remember ever seeing a ship to ship launch.


Recall the episode in Season... two (?) whe Bab5 was trying to cover the last existing Narn capital ship?  The Centauri Heavy pulled up alongside the Babylon Station and unleasheing broadside after broadside.  The Babylon station fired "AMD", the Centauri finally saturated it, blew off a section of the Babylon station, and then the fighters managed to kill the Centauri before it could kill Bab5.

Why the Centauri heavy never launched its own fighters when Bab5 did, I'll never understand.

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The episode was "The Fall of the Night" and S'Cipio does this come close to what you remember from that episode?


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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2004, 06:51:42 am »
Cool stuff Patterson!
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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2004, 01:26:18 am »
Ok Weapons for this campaign

As most know, the weapons used in the B5 universe are different so here is the best conversion I could come up with:

Babylon 5 Weapon - SFC/OP Equivalency

Particle Beam - Ph 3
Medium Pulse Cannon - Disruptor 3
Heavy Pulse Cannon - Disruptor 4
Medium Plasma Cannon - 1 X Hellbore
Heavy Plasma Cannon - 2 X Hellbore
Heavy Laser Cannon - Ph 1
Medium Laser Cannon -Ph 2
Interceptor Mk 1 - AMD "A"
Interceptor Mk 2 - AMD "B"
Class A Missile Rack - A Rack
Class S Missile Rack- B Rack
Class LH Missile Rack- G Rack (Possibly upgraded to MIRV rack)
Rail Gun - Ph G2

The ones I am having a problem with are both the Heavy and Medium:

Laser/Pulse Array (Laser)
Laser/Pulse Array (Pulse)

but I'm working on it.

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Re: Babylon 5 Earth Civil War Campaign - Production Stages
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2004, 05:07:22 am »
Laser/Pulse Array (Laser)  Heavy Disrupters
Laser/Pulse Array (Pulse)  Disrupter 3

both work well for whitestars and membari sharlin cruisers

was playing around with a B5 mod of my own at one time.

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