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"Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« on: September 16, 2004, 08:17:24 am »
 :-\So I decided to give the Asia new life by making it as an interim design between Ent. and TOS. Notice the features that are reminicent of both shows. Well here it is. I'll let you know when it is posted on my page and I'll send it to RatPack for posting there as well. Any one who would like to have this or any other ship I make on thier page just let me know....
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2004, 08:20:00 am »
OMG, that is great!
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2004, 08:54:23 am »
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2004, 09:06:24 am »
This is the same era as the bonaventure right? Hell, you do a burke and bonaventure like this Asia and I'll hafta bump atra's out of my tos mod. :o  This might make a decent medium cruiser between the Surya and connie.

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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2004, 09:17:15 am »
THAT is WONDERFUL!!  :o
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2004, 11:03:19 am »
good stuff.

But. . .do I see *12* phaser mounts on the saucer?

We really need more phaser choices than 1,2 and 3.

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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2004, 11:09:27 am »
Hey Wallace!

Ever consider doing an "accurate" version of the Asia Class, ala the one at Starfleet Museum?
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2004, 11:42:35 am »
Hey Wallace!

Ever consider doing an "accurate" version of the Asia Class, ala the one at Starfleet Museum?


Yeah I thought about it but I kinda like making people mad with my not so much like the one that someone else did models...
I perfer to do original work....

By the way in relation to the 12 phasers on the hull. I usually make the older or smaller ships in my list with lower powered phasers. This one is all phaser 2's.

Also for those that remember i am making completely new Catian/Katian and Tellerite designs based on the old versions I made a couple of years ago. For reference you can still see them at Fleetdock 13.
They will have many of the same features but will be done from scratch and be much more detailed.

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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2004, 12:08:52 pm »
AWESOME!!!
Wallace...you are still the man!!!
Thank you mate :)

I hope to work with you again when you have some free time
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2004, 12:24:48 pm »
great news man, I kinda like them telarites so seeing better ones is great. BTW,   I've been trying to   email u...did u get any of them?

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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2004, 12:30:17 pm »
Awesome textures, man... the nacalles look great!
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2004, 01:00:30 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2004, 01:07:44 pm »
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2004, 01:37:12 pm »
Yuck! No offense Wallace it's a beautiful mesh and textures but I despise and loathe TOS ships being 're-imagined' or whatever into the Enterprise style, the Asia is a beautiful ship and this is just, eh, fugly. Some people like that style as pretty much all the posters in this thread so far but as far as I'm concerned the TOS aesthetic is a much better design overall.
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2004, 01:48:48 pm »
great news man, I kinda like them telarites so seeing better ones is great. BTW,   I've been trying to   email u...did u get any of them?

yeah i did but appearently my replies have gone astray.....

The Manta thing I haven't gotten too it but i have ideas on other changes for that mesh as well and as i am bouncing around about this that and the other I am sorry its taking so long.
Any way its great to see people interested in my early stuff too. I really was learning alot about how to do this back then.   If you look at some fof the older stuff I did and compare it to the more recent work you'll notice a huge difference in quality. Or at least i do. My point is, when i started i had very little idea what i was doing. All those that are just getting into this kind of thing can take from me that you can do some pretty good stuff if you stick with it. Not that mine is as good as some of the greats we've been glad to see in this community

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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2004, 01:57:11 pm »
Yuck! No offense Wallace it's a beautiful mesh and textures but I despise and loathe TOS ships being 're-imagined' or whatever into the Enterprise style, the Asia is a beautiful ship and this is just, eh, fugly. Some people like that style as pretty much all the posters in this thread so far but as far as I'm concerned the TOS aesthetic is a much better design overall.

Ehh, you're short sighted. ;)


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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2004, 02:18:39 pm »
great news man, I kinda like them telarites so seeing better ones is great. BTW,   I've been trying to   email u...did u get any of them?

yeah i did but appearently my replies have gone astray.....

The Manta thing I haven't gotten too it but i have ideas on other changes for that mesh as well and as i am bouncing around about this that and the other I am sorry its taking so long.
Any way its great to see people interested in my early stuff too. I really was learning alot about how to do this back then.   If you look at some fof the older stuff I did and compare it to the more recent work you'll notice a huge difference in quality. Or at least i do. My point is, when i started i had very little idea what i was doing. All those that are just getting into this kind of thing can take from me that you can do some pretty good stuff if you stick with it. Not that mine is as good as some of the greats we've been glad to see in this community
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2004, 02:59:56 pm »
111wallace111:

How do you feel about a Saladin-style ship based on this? It would create models for the National Guard destroyers in SFB Module R8.

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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2004, 03:06:59 pm »
Yuck! No offense Wallace it's a beautiful mesh and textures but I despise and loathe TOS ships being 're-imagined' or whatever into the Enterprise style, the Asia is a beautiful ship and this is just, eh, fugly. Some people like that style as pretty much all the posters in this thread so far but as far as I'm concerned the TOS aesthetic is a much better design overall.

Ehh, you're short sighted. ;)

Yes, and? Only slightly... I can still see well enough that the NX-01 makes me want to hurl, I won't though, because then I'd have to clean up...
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Re: "Asia" Class Early Heavy cruiser
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2004, 03:31:02 pm »
Maruth, in some ways I share the pain of how bad the Akiraprise design is, but not so much when you take certain elements to make 60s retro-ish designs such as the Big E first seen in 1966 and make it more realistic, or more modern.  Take Dennis Bailey's U.S.S. Phoenix for example:


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Without making it look too much like an Akiraprise-themed design, Dennis Bailey transformed an early Constitution-class design and made it modern.  More metallic-looking hull patterns and grids and more-believable thrusters and so on... It's basically a 21st-century look on an old 1960s design we all like, and much of the original design is still there.  At the time when I discovered this, I saw Anduril making an attempt at making an SFC version, and to this day I still have it with me (I hope!  Only way it'll be lost is if I lose track of my backed up data on CDs or one of 'em gets scratched up badly), and I enjoy this design, as it gives much respect to the original design of the Constitution-class while making it look more believable and more appealing to newcomers of the original series.

What Wallace did was a similar attempt, but with a little more influence to Akiraprise than what Dennis Bailey did to the Consitution-class.  However, it still looks mostly (or basically) pre-TOS (at least what I swear by my heart to be Pre-TOS, being Masao Okazaki's perception of Pre-TOS-era. :) ).  Nevertheless, a promising model, nicely-done, even the textures.

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