Topic: Would a Romulan Civil War Server fly?

[FPF-DieHard]

This is even SFB cannon, a Romulan Civl war broke out shortly after the General War.  Most of the battles involved X-Squadrons with the Kestrals on one side and the Hawks on the other.

This could also be a good way to give Romulan Plasma fighters a shakedown in a low-pressure enviroment.

Would this fly?

[Green]

No idea.  But I'd fly it.

[Hexx]

Klinks... Feds... Now Roms...

It's good to know the Lyrans have such a stable government.

[likkerpig]

Klinks... Feds... Now Roms...

It's good to know the Lyrans have such a stable government.

What, all two of us?

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

[Sirgod]

Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

Doesn't matter as long as A Romie Dies. 

Stephen

[FPF-DieHard]

Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

And how is this a problem?   

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

And how is this a problem?   

well if thats too short for you try it at gamespeed 5......

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

matches could be longer if both sides decide to cloak and wait to see who blinks first.   

[Green]

Mother says "everytime a rommie dies, an angel gets his wings"

[Ronin]

I would fly in this. Keep me posted.

[Firehawk]

You've got my attention.  I would fly on it.

[FPF-DieHard]

Give Chutt a Superhawk-B   

[madelf]

Now, it could be fun, but the 2+ hour plasma ballets would kill it, in my oponion.  Not to mention the new OP cloak, which could make finishing nigh impossible. 

One thought I had, was IF the source code ever gets out for us, and we could implement plasma bolting, that might make the PvP a ton more tolerable.

[GDA-Agave]

Karnak's in a BCF.  Oh, bring it on Frogboy.

Hey DH, why does this phrase sounds so familiar.   I seem to think that I might just have said this in the 2v2 PvP mission where Dizzy and I died in GW3.    Is that where you got it?   Or am I just paranoid?   Or are you really out to get me?


Agave

[Commander Maxillius]

Count me in, Die Hard, and if it's an OoB, put me in a King Eagle.


ph34r teh Eagles!!!

 

[Ronin]

Now, it could be fun, but the 2+ hour plasma ballets would kill it, in my oponion.  Not to mention the new OP cloak, which could make finishing nigh impossible. 

One thought I had, was IF the source code ever gets out for us, and we could implement plasma bolting, that might make the PvP a ton more tolerable.

I realize it is not "the" answer to this problem of games that take forever, but there are a few boats with the mauler. One in particular is a favorite of mine. Just a thought.

Respects...

[madelf]

I think it would be fun if Every romulan ship had a mauler.    

[alfman]

Nah just make everone fly a R-FAL (no +). Just a mauler with enginse! Alternately make everone start in a Snipe A. Klingons will be wishing they had there F5's back.

[Cleaven]

Klinks... Feds... Now Roms...

It's good to know the Lyrans have such a stable government.

Well actually they were in a permanent state of internal war as is seen in most militaristic monarchies. The combat is not necessarily open all the time but the term Lyran Civil War would in fact be redundant.

[Father Ted]

Actually, Jeff and I were talking about this a few weeks ago. I'd finally have a real excuse to fly Rommie.

[FPF-DieHard]

Karnak's in a BCF.  Oh, bring it on Frogboy.

Hey DH, why does this phrase sounds so familiar.   I seem to think that I might just have said this in the 2v2 PvP mission where Dizzy and I died in GW3.    Is that where you got it?   Or am I just paranoid?   Or are you really out to get me?


Agave

Dizzy said that.   I figured it was ironic . . .

[WarSears]

I would play 

[Dizzy]

Karnak's in a BCF.  Oh, bring it on Frogboy.

Hey DH, why does this phrase sounds so familiar.   I seem to think that I might just have said this in the 2v2 PvP mission where Dizzy and I died in GW3.    Is that where you got it?   Or am I just paranoid?   Or are you really out to get me?


Agave

Dizzy said that.   I figured it was ironic . . .

Well, I didnt figure he'd bring on a DNH.

[Vorcha]

Blazinbud and I would fly it in a heartbeat.

V

[762_XC]

What Chuut said. Plas vs Plas gets old fast.

[Mazeppa]

Problem would be that most fights would turn into 1 hour plus plasma duels.

And how is this a problem?   

I'm with DH on this one. 

At the beginning of a server, I get into a droner because I feel I HAVE to, to keep my team competitive, and farm PP.  But if we were ALL plasma chuckers....We could focus on the game.

There would need to be some sort of bonus for PvP that would greatly compensate for a two hour battle, both in PP and VC's, but I actually look forward to a long plasma duel.

[benbean]

Where's the sign-ups?

[KBF-Soth]

I'd be up for this,hell I'd be up for a civil war with all with any of the races.What better way could one learn and get used to flying the different races?

[FPF-DieHard]

Here's what I'm thinking so far . . .

- Two sides, imperial and republican factions (I'll look up the real names from X1 when I get home). 

- Kestrals and Eagles and one side, Hawks on the other.   This accurately represents the fleet layouyts from the SFB history.  I'm thinking uses the Klingons UI for the faction with the Kestrals?

- Full Draft, I'll need some hardcore Romulans to Lead the houses.

- Plasma-fighters and PFs for both sides.  What better way to test them out then on a server where both sides have the same cheese?

- Modded X-ships.  The SFB Romulan Civil War involved X-Squadron engagements.   SGODev is working on some modification of the OP+ X-ships so they play nicer with the GW-era vessels and there capabilties are closer to their SFB counterparts.  I'm thinking use these as the OOB ships instead of DNs?

- Destructable bases    , planets will be the "ground" that is fought over.

- One-ship-per-pilot is 90% likely

- 5000 starting PP and decent starting ships so you can jump right in the action.

- 2-3 Week run, let us see if KCW drags at 3 weeks or not.

Known issues:

- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.

[KBF-Dogmatix_XC]

I absolutely enjoy flying Romulan, so any excuse that comes along to do so is cool by me.

[Kroma BaSyl]

- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.

Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.

[FPF-DieHard]

- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.

Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.

That could work to, so what UIs?  Kliink and Lyran?

[Firehawk]

- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.

Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.

That could work to, so what UIs?  Kliink and Lyran?

I would go with Lyran and Gorn that way both would have the pf's without having to use a donor race.

[FPF-DieHard]

- Only races with the Romulan UI get NSMs.  It is hard-coded into the game and THERE IS NO WORKAROUND FOR THIS.

Sure there is, no one gets the Romulan interface.

That could work to, so what UIs?  Kliink and Lyran?

I would go with Lyran and Gorn that way both would have the pf's without having to use a donor race.

Um, Lyran and Gorn, could the map get any more confusing?   

Donor race is no big deal, I've done It before. 

[Firehawk]

True wasn't thinking of the colors   Many a time I strayed into LDR space by mistake on GW2.

I was just thinking that if you use either 2 pf races or now that I think about it 2 fighter races then you would only need 1 donor race instead of 2.  Just thinking about trying to keep things as simple as possible for those setting it up it.

[Corbomite]

Gorn and Fed would probably work best, but with no NSM count me out. They are just not Rommies w/o them. 


Another solution would be to give the Rom interface to one side and give the other side something in return for the loss of the NSM. More T-Bomb capacity or something like that.

[FPF-DieHard]

Another solution would be to give the Rom interface to one side and give the other side something in return for the loss of the NSM. More T-Bomb capacity or something like that.

That's the kind of Idea I'm trolling for.

[Hexx]

It would probably seem way to ott,and deosn't mesh for SFB purists but what about having one side get NSMs and the other get
say Dizzies replacing Plasma F torps?
Or give them a higher shuttle launch rate.

[FPF-DieHard]

It would probably seem way to ott,and deosn't mesh for SFB purists but what about having one side get NSMs and the other get
say Dizzies replacing Plasma F torps?
Or give them a higher shuttle launch rate.

A little too "modded," but an extra Shuttle seems reasonable.

[Firehawk]

There is a work around for the NSM.  You make the entire romulan race a donor race for the 2 races that you choose to use.  The carriers that are donated from another race still won't have them but this way line ships and pf tenders would still have NSM's

[FPF-DieHard]

There is a work around for the NSM.  You make the entire romulan race a donor race for the 2 races that you choose to use.  The carriers that are donated from another race still won't have them but this way line ships and pf tenders would still have NSM's

Romulans as donors. . . .   I have to try that.

[Firehawk]

It worked on the limited test I did.  I just took the KRCS and donated it to both the Klingon and Federation.   Both were able to drop an NSM.

[FPF-DieHard]

Well, that's one problem solved 

[Firehawk]

Well, that's one problem solved 

I figured if you can donate fighters and pf's then why can't you donate NSM also 

[FPF-DieHard]

You can Donate Engine Doubling as well.

[RazalYllib]

Sounds interesting at this point, IRIS would of course be involved. The 2 active members, perhaps I could lure our missing reserve member away from NWN long enough to gain his interest, it is for the good of the empire.

[Commander Maxillius]

Any thing but the Klingon interface, PLEEEEASE!!! 


Why not the Hydran or ISC interfaces?  A donor's going to be used anyway....

[Hexx]

Because we haven't had the Lyran interface in like forever!

I miss it.

Should have been used for KCW <grumble>

[GDA-S'Cipio]

It worked on the limited test I did.  I just took the KRCS and donated it to both the Klingon and Federation.   Both were able to drop an NSM.

'Scuse me while I press this button.



-S'Cipio

[FPF-DieHard]

Red Versus Blue?  Red for kestrals, blue for Hawks?

[Corbomite]

DH you do realize this leaves the Kestrel side with no CL's to speak of right? In fact, the whole Kestrel side is in dire need of ships.

[Strafer]

If it's Kestrels and Eagles vs Hawks, it should balance out AFAICT. Is there an era in particular that comes to mind?

[FPF-DieHard]

If it's Kestrels and Eagles vs Hawks, it should balance out AFAICT. Is there an era in particular that comes to mind?

It would be late Era, same starting year as the SFB Romulan Civil War.

[GDA-S'Cipio]

Red Versus Blue?  Red for kestrals, blue for Hawks?

Taking Rom out of the choice, the easiest to see UIs are (in descending order)

Gorn (but I'm biased )
ISC
Lyran
Fed

Then, in the getting harder category,
Gorn (when I'm feeling honest)
Hydran
Klingon
<a few more ought to fit here>
(God save us!) Mirak


I'd choose between ISC, Lyran, and Fed.  I'd lean towards ISC and Fed, just to make the distinction on the map more stark.

-S'Cipio

[Green]

Red Versus Blue?  Red for kestrals, blue for Hawks?

Taking Rom out of the choice, the easiest to see UIs are (in descending order)

Gorn (but I'm biased )
ISC
Lyran
Fed

Then, in the getting harder category,
Gorn (when I'm feeling honest)
Hydran
Klingon
<a few more ought to fit here>
(God save us!) Mirak


I'd choose between ISC, Lyran, and Fed.  I'd lean towards ISC and Fed, just to make the distinction on the map more stark.

-S'Cipio

The Mirak have the best UI in the game.  You simply don't know what art is Mr "soon-to-be-a-nice-set-of-shoes" Scipio.

(got to agree, the Fed/Lyran would be very distinctive.  If you want three races, then F/I/L would probably work best)

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

ISC wouldn't be bad except for the sounds involved,

Gorn, Hydran, and Klingon are so dim like the lights are flickering and about to go out.  Then again with races that are so damn ugly to look at I can't blame the designers for that....

Lyran and Fed are not bad by any account.

Mirak has the best sounds, and colors that are easy on the eyes (hence the Kzin nutters are able to stay on so long)

I like Rom alot too but it has been excluded.

[FPF-DieHard]

I would like the 2 races to be fighter races since I will be including carriers and Plasma fighters so Lyran is out.  it is just much easier this way that it is to have a double donor setup (one for PFs and NSM, one for fighters).

Something about Red versus Blue just seems so, right!   

[Commander Maxillius]

I would like the 2 races to be fighter races since I will be including carriers and Plasma fighters so Lyran is out.  it is just much easier this way that it is to have a double donor setup (one for PFs and NSM, one for fighters).

Something about Red versus Blue just seems so, right!   

dork!