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Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« on: September 09, 2004, 01:22:20 pm »

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2004, 01:55:28 pm »
To the Best of my knowledge no one has created a tmp version yet. ;D

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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2004, 02:11:51 pm »
I'd rather not have WZ make this one. Im looking for a playable ship, he tends to go overboard on polys and make works of art... But I think I have seen TMP version of this b4... Somewhere. And its not that old dated taldren model.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2004, 03:13:26 pm »
so diz  were you  pick that one up at?
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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2004, 04:35:57 pm »
 ;D

An Excelsior  Refit (Enterprise B Style) version is available as a FBB at:

http://www.nightsoft.net/mckinnleystation

I hope the site will be back up soon.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2004, 04:38:43 pm »
so diz  were you  pick that one up at?
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Dunno, but I'll be happy to email ya. ;)

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2004, 04:54:45 pm »
that is a ship by the TheStresspuppy , its named Yamoto, if my memory serves me right and yes, there was a TMP version of it around somewhere :)
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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2004, 05:28:47 pm »
she is the FBB from SFC1 and 2. Just take the MOD file out from SFC2 and add the neccorsy files and play in 3. It will work.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2004, 05:45:44 pm »



This is TOS FBB is available here:

http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com/file.info?ID=27187

IIRC Atheorhaven might have a TMP of this in the works someplace.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2004, 07:15:19 pm »
http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com  Look in the ships section for the Yamamoto class.  That ship is actually a port from SFC/OP.  That is the only TMP version of the ship around.  In fact, if I am right, this TOS version was built as an "what if this were in the TOS era" concept, but then again, I could be wrong.  The only TMP version of this ship I have ever seen was used in SFC1/2/OP, and those models weren't particularly very good when you really looked at them.  I think WZ would make a great TMP version of this ship.  His skills are just as good as any other modelers around, but any skilled modeler would do just as excellent a job.  I like WZ's work though because he includes specs, which for me makes it really easy to install.  :-D  But those opinions of mine are more suited in another forum, not on here.  If I offended anyone in anyway, I apologize. 
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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2004, 10:20:03 pm »
Yes, the TMP version from KA/SFC was the original that the above TOS 'pre-fit' was based on. There's also an Excelsior style one, covered in phaser banks, a half dozen engines, and other ridiculous fan-boy inspired details that someone made a few years ago. Outside of the FASA designs and various kitbashes, that's one of the ugliest, most anti-traditional Federation ships I've ever seen and all knowledge of it's existence should be wiped from the galaxy.

Heh, in case anyone hasn't figured it out by now, there's an extremely slim to nonexistent chance I'll ever build a Wickedized Yamato class - the Mars and Missouri are cutting it close to the ugly scale as it is.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2004, 11:40:45 pm »
Yes, the TMP version from KA/SFC was the original that the above TOS 'pre-fit' was based on. There's also an Excelsior style one, covered in phaser banks, a half dozen engines, and other ridiculous fan-boy inspired details that someone made a few years ago. Outside of the FASA designs and various kitbashes, that's one of the ugliest, most anti-traditional Federation ships I've ever seen and all knowledge of it's existence should be wiped from the galaxy.

Heh, in case anyone hasn't figured it out by now, there's an extremely slim to nonexistent chance I'll ever build a Wickedized Yamato class - the Mars and Missouri are cutting it close to the ugly scale as it is.

If I've offended anyone in anyway by my blatant comments regarding ship design and aesthetics, I'm not apologizing because, well, I just don't give a damn.


LOL.   I actualy like the ship too, but you use to god damn many textures  on your tmp feds, so thankyou for not making this ship lol. ;D

And lets not forget Joker's Montana class. Promethius saucer, 4 sov engines, twin hulls and ofcourse 4 miranda style torpedo pods make it one bad@$$ mutha fuxxor. :o   w00t!

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2004, 12:30:38 am »
The TMP Yamato isn't too bad, but then I've grown used to seeing it in SFC and KA... It's most likely just that I feel some nostalgia when I think about it.  Same for the Missouri-class.  Oh well, everyone has different taste. *shrug*

The Missouri-class is like an overgrown 3-nacelled Miranda/Oberth-class hybrid of some sort... But the design isn't too bad.  I actually am fond of it in the realm of non-kitbashed Fed Battleship designs.  Imagine someone actually trying to oversize a real Oberth-class Secondary hull and stick it to the hull of a Miranda-class and put some Oberth or Excelsior-class nacelles... *shudder*

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2004, 07:58:31 am »
i like the basic design of the ship but i think the nearest thing to a BB the federation build in tmp
is the excelsior and the excelsior b.

if u look for something bigger than that look here:

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~sfc/files/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=670

its a ulysses class dreadnought. six photon tubes and 24 phaser emiters. should be powerfull enough whatever specs u give her. and i think its a beautifull ship

i still think the excelsior b is the better choice - from a logical standpoint she as as many phasers as the ulysses and she is smaller ->better turn rate and acceleration. and its the most advanced ship of its time. and its canon.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2004, 08:19:15 am »
These 2x come in the Excelsior Fleet pack by Fury of a Seraph, originals by Pneumonic81, textures by Captain Ron (GAFY) and additional textures addapted by Fury of a Seraph. The Jupiter and the Sparta2H. Neither have _brk mods. Anyone have them?

But I want to see TMP style pre-excelsior yamamoto class.

Where can I find one? I'm pretty sure I have seen one b4 made for SFC2.

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Sparta2H Would make a good DNH or BB.


The problem with the two above designs is that the Excelsior didnt come out till 2280-83. The F-BB and the F-DNH come out before that in year 2275 and 2278. Thats why I'm looking so hard for TMP pre Excelsior version.


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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2004, 12:23:45 pm »
well here's my $1.50.  One, I have pretty much all of WZ stuff and have had no problem running a whole fleet of WarHammers in game.  I think his redux of the Letahality is great except for the half nekkid chick on the hull(talk about fanboy crap)

Two, I think that the design of the F-BB is awesome(I will not call it Yamato due to my personal opinion that naming a class of ship after one that was sunk so easily in combat and not docked is disgraceful.  also im korean my grandfather, grand uncles were kliied by the japanese and several great aunts were taken to Peleiu Island for slave labor so nuff said on that)

In a nutshell I like it and hate the stupid looking SFC Missouri BB.  But then I'm the guy who thinks that whoever decided to stretch a klingon BOP to 600+ meters and call it K'Vort should be  :2gun: :2gun: :2gun: :2gun:  along with whoever came up with the Galaxy Class as well.

Hey this is my opion and this is America.  So nyah nyah nyah.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2004, 01:07:33 pm »
Yes, but you missed the point with the Lethality - it's supposed to be a fanboy ship. Pirates, renegades, big guns, flashy paint jobs, and all that. Though, considering most so-called fanboy ships with their uber-trans-galactic-multi-phase-super-nuking cannons, their half dozen transwarp engines, fifty phaser arrays, and twenty quantum torpedo launchers, I'd say the Lethality is fairly conservative by comparison.

Just because I haven't done a lot of TNG ships doesn't mean they are beyond my abilities. TNG designs have a different style, and take a different approach, and quite frankly I'm not much interested in wasting time on one of the things unless it's something that catches my eye.
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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2004, 02:42:01 pm »
With a much thicker saucer, and making so the two sec hulls are just one rather wide one i.e. add a big central area to connect them, and obviously do something about those stupidly large rollbars with the launchers hanging a few metres from the saucer the Yamato could be made into something quite special. The less said about the Missouri design the better IMO though it's ugliness is cool in a way that suggests it wasn't built to look pretty but to blow s**t up...

Jayvt, don't take this the wrong way but I don't think that because you're family suffered at the hands of the Japanese should mean we never name a ship after anything Japanese, I mean what about the Fed ship the Bismark? Or the Potemkin? Or the Napoleon, all right he was a brilliant general but he caused the deaths of thousands unnecessarily in his later campaigns especially in Russia. We need more foreign names in the Fed ships, the majority of ships are given American names, and there're almost no ships with non-human names in Starfleet.
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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2004, 04:52:46 pm »

p.s.  Hey WeeZee (getit weezee, WZ, weezee...we're moving on up.  to the east side...nevermind :banghead:)  I think you should attempt a TNG BB.  Your FDNs all look great and it would be a true test of your modelling ability but I can understand if it is too hard for you to do...

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WZ has stated quite publically that he doesn't like the look of the TNG ships and therefore will not do them, or anything else that he considers ugly. It is after all his time he has to spend to do this so be kind about it and ask, don't bully or brow beat some one into something. They will not enjoy doing it at all and that tends to make them not want to do this stuff after awhile.

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Re: Anyone know where I can find TMP version of this Fed BB?
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2004, 06:15:23 pm »
I dont think WZ gives a flying f*ck what others think of his work, let alone what he does/doesnt do. He has a huge fan base already and I think he quite likes what he does/has done.

As far as others telling him this or that, let them. WZ is not a paper thin person. I've seen him dish it out before. I'm just trying to find a model, guys. I dont need a flame war to start on my thread when there is no reason to have one. Lets drop the issue, shall we?