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Offline Redshift the Kook

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Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« on: September 09, 2004, 09:24:24 am »
Or used to? The reason I ask is there is a new mod out for it called Point of Existence, which pits US forces against the Russians in a modern day theater of war. Some of the vehicles and weapons available are:

US Vehicles:

M1A2 Abrams
M2A3 Bradley
M109A6 Paladin
RAH-66 Comanche
AH-64D Apache Longbow
F/A-22 Raptor
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter
Hummer
Hummer Avenger

Russian Vehicles:

T-90
BMP-3
MSTA-S
MI-28
KA-52 Alligator
SU-37 Flanker
SU-47 Berkut
2S6M Tunguska
2975 GAZ

US Weapons

M9 Bayonet
Beretta 92
M4A1 RIS
M249 SAW
M60
SMAW
M8
AI AE Sniper
SR25 Sniper
M2 Browning

Russia Weapons

AN-94
OC-14 Groza
PyA
RPG-7
RPK
PKM
SVD
SVU
GSH-18

Here's the storyline:

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In late 2005, a Russian mineral exploration company discovered a series of large oilfields in southern Sudan. Sudan?s Military government, with its ability to hold the newly revitalised Sudanese People?s Liberation Army at bay beginning to falter, decided this new source of oil was its one sure-fire way to hold onto power. The new problem was that this new oil source was located in the rebellions traditional stronghold in the countries non-Arab, non-Islamic south. With the 2002-2003 cease fire agreement having broken down, and political opposition parties in the North of the country making a common cause with the rebels in the south, the Islamic-Militarist government found itself faced with the prospect that it may be overthrown.

The solution they came up with, was to forge an agreement with Russia, that it would sign over all of the profits from the new sources of oil and gas to Russia, in return for help keeping the rebels at bay, but under the pretense of providing economic aid, cheaper generic branded HIV medication, and help in improving road, highway and long range telecommunication infrastructure.

Russia accepted the deal, not because they believed the regime should be in power, but because they saw an immediate need for cheap oil in Russia. Although Russia has some of the largest oil deposits in the world, much of it is stuck below hundreds of metres of permafrost, the cost of extraction and transportation from the remote, frostbitten areas forcing the price of the oil sky high, and creating an extreme burden on Russia?s economically important long-distance heavy transportation industry.

When the new oil deal was announced, this enflamed the conflict with the SPLA even further, although they hated being oppressed by an Islamic/Military regime, they believed at least the current regimes economic policies were smart, and were benefiting the overall economic status of the country, by slowly implementing IMF macroeconomic strategies. Without the economic benefit of this oil, the SPLA believed the large problem of increasing Sudan?s per capita output would be adversely affected, but most of all they realised the government was doing it to raise help in holding the SPLA and other rebel groups at bay.

Sudan?s neighbouring countries also took umbrage. They felt that by giving the oil to the Russians, they had been passed over. They were of the opinion that the oil should have been sold to them, thereby keeping the wealth in Africa. These countries, which had a history of allowing the Sudanese rebels to conduct insurgencies from within their borders (although they all denied it) were now openly hostile towards the Sudanese government, and began to not just allow the rebels to conduct insurgencies from within their countries across the border, but a few countries, the most aggressive of which was Kenya, went so far as to provide small scale air support before raids, and helicopter reconnaissance after raids, to ensure the area was empty.

Although Sudan knew this was happening, they had no way of proving it, and Sudan and Kenya edged closer to war.

Kenya, knowing Sudan would almost certainly have the operational assistance of Russia in the event of war, began a series of diplomatic maneuverings in an attempt to get the USA to promise operational assistance to them in the event of war. The USA would not have a bar of it, assuming Russia would say that ?It is none of our business, it?s a local issue? and not actually even come close to promising assistance to Sudan in a war with Kenya, after all, the US already knew Russia was only their to get oil and advise the Sudanese government on how to suppress a pending uprising, they were not there to help fight in someone else?s international dispute.

When it was soon discovered just how much oil was involved, (a surprise to both Russia and the USA), The USA suddenly became far more interested in the dispute, especially when found that the eastern most oilfield partially lay across the borders of Sudan, Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda.

The USA decided that if it stepped into the dispute on the side of Kenya, they could use the threat to make Russia agree to share the eastern most oilfields with them. The USA approached Kenya with an offer to help them, but rather than just provide strategic advisers, they would need to send a sizable contingent of troops ?to protect the advisers?. Kenya Jumped at the chance, and when Russia figured out what was going on, they were outraged, and refused to share the oil at all, and asserted that because the vast percentage of the fields lay in Sudan, that the oil under the other countries was theirs too, especially as it was a Russian company that discovered the deposits.

The USA decided to apply more preassure, they immediately sent more troops to the area, and the dispute immediately became two tiered, the Sudanese ? Kenyan conflict on one hand, and the Russian-American conflict on the other. The Russians decided they were not going to bow to such preassure, so began sending tens of thousands of their own troops to the region.

By now, 2 years of diplomatic maneuvering, counter-maneuvering, political rhetoric and military build-up had passed, now 2007, the conflict has grown much larger than just two small third world nations bickering, but is now two of the worlds heavyweights arguing in someone else?s country.



And here's some screenies:





















The official site is here:
http://www.pointofexistence.com/component/

The only downside is the Mod is about 366 MB and the patch is a further 60 odd Megs, but it's worth the wait. Heck, I even think it's worth buying BFV just to play this. Obviously the maps are based in the Sudan/Kenya area but there's a fair amount of variety, from swamps, mountains, savanas, and deserts, (that give it a kind of gulf war feel).

So if you want to know what it's like to take the US's latest arsenal of weapons against what Russia has to offer or you feel like kicking America's imperial ambitions into touch, ( ;D), now you'll know!
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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2004, 09:25:31 am »
I think John Kerry is.  ;)
I'm a Man
But I can change
If I have to
I guess


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I thank God I grew up in an age when a kid could still play with things that could put his eye out.


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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2004, 02:07:59 pm »
Thanks for the information Redshift, I'm starting to download it now.  I'll call my friend and see if he wants to put it up on his server. 

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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2004, 02:09:57 pm »
OOh yay! Nice one!

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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2004, 04:10:04 pm »
Man, Now I have to Find the Truck Keys, Drive to the PC shop,. and grab this game once and for all. Actually RatBoy had me wanting this awhile back, But I just never had the cash to Get It.

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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2004, 05:59:57 pm »
My friend plans on opening up his server to the public soon, when he does I'll give you people that play BV the IP address.

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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2004, 06:19:40 pm »
Thanks Javora. I'll give It a shot .

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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2004, 11:09:26 pm »
The images are nice, but I think BFV plays a bit better.   The metal ring around the mini-map obscures flags on the edge, and the planes move so fast that the radar isn't much use, its too short ranged. 
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Re: Does anyone still play Battlefield Vietnam here?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2004, 05:15:24 pm »
Played PoE with a friend last night, I thought it was pretty cool.  BTW if you haven't already download and install the WWII mod, we had a lot of fun with that last night as well.  You can download the WWII mod at EA Games - Battlefield Vietnam website.  Enjoy.