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Heres' the deal
« on: September 06, 2004, 11:10:14 am »
First, KBF I know we have had our issues lately and for that I am sorry for my part in it.

However, I wanted your support for this server and I allowed myself to be talked into something other than what I wanted to do, which is a full draft. I am convined that we as a community really need to do this and move beyond our historical races that we have played. I love the game more than I love being a Federation player. Federation will always be my first choice as a player but for the sake of the game or server I will play what needs to be played.

So a full draft it is, I hope you will all support this and look beyond the past mis-understandings

Bearslayer and Jinn are going to assist in the draft details

Die Hard is going to host

Jeff is going to get me a shiplist together

Right now I need to get the House situations settled

Dizzy is a house leader for sure right now, but Mav is working a lot hours right now.

Tracey and Kim are a question mark and I need to hear from them

I think Hex is interested

I am open to one of the KBF and KHH guys to heading a house

Please PM for house suggestions, and be nice please.

Lets get this ball rolling as soon as possible, I have the server rules that I will post in another thread.

Cheers

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2004, 11:55:26 am »
Any idea of when it's actually going to happen?
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2004, 11:58:07 am »
Any idea of when it's actually going to happen?

Within the next two weeks is what I am shooting for.

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2004, 12:27:03 pm »
Any idea of when it's actually going to happen?

Within the next two weeks is what I am shooting for.

Hooch

I had thought if the KBF was not going to fly as a Fleet, then we would be pulled to be house leaders.

Hmm o well.
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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2004, 12:30:25 pm »
In a way, I like the idea of have independents as House leaders.  Dizzy....Hexx....and one other who isn't in a fleet.  It might cut down on any possible. favoritism shown towards fellow fleet members.



Sounds great, Hooch.  I'm looking forward to it.



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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2004, 12:30:36 pm »
Any idea of when it's actually going to happen?

Within the next two weeks is what I am shooting for.

Hooch

I had thought if the KBF was not going to fly as a Fleet, then we would be pulled to be house leaders.

Hmm o well.

YES, I certainly wish that. Name the guys.

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2004, 12:34:12 pm »
CHA-CHING BABY!!!

Okay . .   KBF . .  let's talk money.  I'm sure the draft can be "set up" in a mutually acceptable manner.


But seriously.


Being a draft . . .  and not a blind draft . .  .  It is possible that many of the KBF can stay together.   They just have to be drafted.


As for post draft trading . . .  <yes I know this would come up so I might as well get to it now>  Not a good idea.  Bound to cause a flame war.  Lets not go there.   Ya fly for who drafted ya.

Now this of course means that you shouldn't even fly on the server if there are certain players that you just plain refuse to fly with.   Why?  Because if you get drafted with them adn THEN refuse to play it will screw up the numbers.

My idea is to have each house leader sumbit a private PRIVATE! draft card to me and Bear.  It would list all of the players in the pool in your order of preference.

Bear and I would then handle the draft using a Round system.



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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2004, 12:40:15 pm »
Sigh.
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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2004, 12:41:35 pm »
Sigh.

That's it!!   I draft Mazeppa to be on the team with just Hexx, Mav, me and Nail.

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2004, 12:58:09 pm »
Sigh.

That's it!!   I draft Mazeppa to be on the team with just Hexx, Mav, me and Nail.

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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2004, 07:30:46 pm »
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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2004, 08:15:17 pm »
Would be kinda cool to have a "real" klingon as the house leader for all four.

Looking forward to the game.

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2004, 08:24:29 pm »
Are we still going for a 4-house deal, or just 3?

Either way, I think we would be best served by a non-klingon leader on each team to help involve the community (and cut down on the favoritism posts), with a full-blooded Klingon (probably one of the usual KBF-leadership but there's some KHH leaders and non-aligned leaders out there too...) willing to team up and make sure someone on the team knows quite a bit about the Klingons...

If necessary, this Veltrassi ambassador is willing to lead a house.  If I am needed, let me know...

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2004, 08:46:28 pm »
CHA-CHING BABY!!!

Okay . .   KBF . .  let's talk money.  I'm sure the draft can be "set up" in a mutually acceptable manner.


But seriously.


Being a draft . . .  and not a blind draft . .  .  It is possible that many of the KBF can stay together.   They just have to be drafted.


As for post draft trading . . .  <yes I know this would come up so I might as well get to it now>  Not a good idea.  Bound to cause a flame war.  Lets not go there.   Ya fly for who drafted ya.

Now this of course means that you shouldn't even fly on the server if there are certain players that you just plain refuse to fly with.   Why?  Because if you get drafted with them adn THEN refuse to play it will screw up the numbers.

My idea is to have each house leader sumbit a private PRIVATE! draft card to me and Bear.  It would list all of the players in the pool in your order of preference.

Bear and I would then handle the draft using a Round system.




but for whatever reason should the players on the draft board do not get along with the house leader that picks them?

i mean sure...we can all be nice...but that doesnt mean we really like them...i just trying to say...that not every one is as transparent with their dislikes....say like me....

and good friendships are a high commodity...how much you willing to spend?
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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2004, 09:02:45 pm »
Well so much for me flying with the KBF. Im sure they want too kill me for being the Fleet Bastard that I am.

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2004, 09:16:55 pm »
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That's one of the things that I believe this server is supposed to put to rest...

This community is too small to survive rivalries so intense that people are almost physically unwilling to play with their "rivals".  None of us should be that repulsive to any other community member to elict that level of response...

Unless there's been some cross-forum dating and the breakup has been that bad...  ::)

Even though my colorblindness is going to make it tough for me to run another stunt in Klink blood-red, its starting to look like I will have to do so if that team picks me.  Hopefully the past 2 months of not needing to stare at it has allowed my eyes to calm enough to let me handle it for the duration...

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2004, 09:45:06 pm »
CHA-CHING BABY!!!

Okay . .   KBF . .  let's talk money.  I'm sure the draft can be "set up" in a mutually acceptable manner.


But seriously.


Being a draft . . .  and not a blind draft . .  .  It is possible that many of the KBF can stay together.   They just have to be drafted.


As for post draft trading . . .  <yes I know this would come up so I might as well get to it now>  Not a good idea.  Bound to cause a flame war.  Lets not go there.   Ya fly for who drafted ya.

Now this of course means that you shouldn't even fly on the server if there are certain players that you just plain refuse to fly with.   Why?  Because if you get drafted with them adn THEN refuse to play it will screw up the numbers.

My idea is to have each house leader sumbit a private PRIVATE! draft card to me and Bear.  It would list all of the players in the pool in your order of preference.

Bear and I would then handle the draft using a Round system.




but for whatever reason should the players on the draft board do not get along with the house leader that picks them?

i mean sure...we can all be nice...but that doesnt mean we really like them...i just trying to say...that not every one is as transparent with their dislikes....say like me....

and good friendships are a high commodity...how much you willing to spend?

Don't have ta like them.  I'm just saying that if your dislike is so strong for one of the leaders or a particular player that you absolutely would not play if drafted on that team, then it might be best just to skip this server instead of running the risk of FUBARing the numbers.

You can despise them all wish.  LOL  I'm just trying to avoid people not playing after they have been drafted due only to a dislike of a player(s)l.

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Re: Heres' the deal
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2004, 10:07:07 pm »
im all for the draft...dont get me wrong

just allow the "PLAYERS" the ability to at least offer house "LEADERS" they wish to fly for...if there are 3 houses...as a "PLAYER" you must submit to be drafted into a minimum of 2 houses...but that wont work either if youre gonna put a KHH and KBF guy in charge of 2 houses...at least for the klink pilots...cos you know they will pitch for either a KBF or KHH house "LEADER"...or 1 of these 2 as a choice and the other for the 3rd...for KHH/KBF pilots....

and compromise has no valor when youre told...just don't play then...considering you want people to play and "bury the hatchet"...and not want to unbalance the houses by providing a draft........

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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2004, 10:50:39 pm »
My understanding is that you can challange the House Leader for control of the house.  So if you don't care for the leader who drafts you, just assassinate him plain and simple, what could be more Klingon, problem solved.

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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2004, 11:09:32 pm »
My understanding is that you can challange the House Leader for control of the house.  So if you don't care for the leader who drafts you, just assassinate him plain and simple, what could be more Klingon, problem solved.

I guess we would just have t-bombs, tractors and planets/asteroids at our disposal?

Seriously though, I think the house leaders should all be respected Klinks, but keep the draft. I would think that Kreug and Shadowlord should be considered for two of the spots.
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