Topic: So whats next? and when?

[FPF-AJTK]

Ya know what, if I could pay a monthly fee for patches to actually make SFC work 99.99% of the time, like EVE, I'd GLADLY do it. Yep, not one HAND OF BETHKE in over a months time on EVE.

Lag is an oddity, not normality. They are constantly not only patching the game, but ADDING entirely new content. Gonna be a HUGE expansion in November (and its not even a STAND ALONE-EXPANSION)

Yes, you have to pay to play. Figure $15 a month, 30 days a month, wow, thats all of what, .50 CENTS A DAY??  Oh, woe is me, I will have eat dogfood to afford that heavy burden. :rolleyes:


Dizzy, yer wrong, its not just the big guns that win. A dude that signs in for a corp, minimizes his skills to get into a BB asap cause his Corp. gives him one will get eaten ALIVE   by a guy in a cruiser who actually has skills and the ability to use the more advanced combat systems, like EW, warp disruptors, micro- warp drives, WEBS... TONS of stuff. Skills work kinda like legendary officers and outstanding crews, too bad OP doesn't have that.

Dint get me wrong, I LOVE SFC and will never stop playing it, I was heartbroken I couldn't play on GW3 due to the lag apparently caused by a Hurricane Charley screwed up phone system here in Fl, and I have signed up for KCW as well.

SFC will take priority over Eve every day of the week,  BUT...

Dint knock it if you dint know what your talking about, and... especially dint knock those who play it. I personally know of one group of pilots that I fly with that were put off SFC due to just this type of lame crap.

There is NO MORE Taldren,  you can shut the Church down now.

BTW Tracy, SFC, if still compatible to be run in 10 years will STILL be exactly the same as it is now, unless someone comes off the source code. Eve changes every day, and I will gladly fork over my .50 to that bastion of Free ENTERPRISE known as Capitalism.

Oh, and how likely is it that SFC will still have a dynaverse to run on in 10 years? Player base goes down every server. I hate it, I LOVE this game, been waiting for it since I got my first Commodore 64... "WOW, I wish we could run SFB on this thing!" Even had a program in basic that automated the weapons/damage charts/die rolls for ya.

How long has "Evercrack been running"? Long time. And so long as Eve keeps updating and improving and most importantly, MAKING MONEY (What Taldren unfortunately was unable to do) it will keep running.

FPF-AJTK:  UBER-Long time SFB/SFC whore, getting tired of people shoving it up his ASS for daring to play another VIDEO GAME  besides this one series that he has been playing since the F-CA vs D7 DEMO Interplay put out. Heh, how many of YOU bitched about the status of SFC enough that Bethke actually called you at HOME to shut you the F up about releasing OP when EAW was hardly running?

Cut Eve and the people who play it some F#cking slack already. <Pulls out his wallet and takes out a $20 and hands it to Dizzy for use of his trademark>

STFU?

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

Firstly, I'm exercising my right to freedom of speech in a non-abusive manner by giving my opinion on pay to play servers. Your opinion need not be the same AJTK and is just as relevant as mine. I will, however, take this opportunity to clarify my viewpoint and incorporate the things you've mentioned

Good things about pay to play:
- promotion of on-going development
- game quality is likely to be better
- administrators are bound by contract to provide services

Bad things about pay to play:
- setup barriers (accounts must be created and paid for first)
- restrictive payment methods are not universally accessible (not everyone has a credit card or paypal account)
- exchange rates put overseas players at a disadvantage, increased overhead costs of payment
- it costs money

In the case of Eve we can also add that without a single player version of the game, essentially, you are buying an online game only which can only be played while there are servers running.

This is not a discussion about the quality of the game itself, which from all accounts is very good. The criticism that has been aimed at EVE here, is not game related.

My personal distaste for the above pay to play arrangements, is simply that the game is not accessible to all. I, myself, am a university student. I do not have a credit card. I do not have a paypal account, AND I live overseas, so I cant even send a check. Yes, I could send an international money order, which after exchange rates and fees is going to cost a lot more than others pay to play the same game. Its also going to take maybe a week or two to travel to its destination and be processed. Simply put, some people will find these barriers more difficult to overcome than others. If it works for you, then fine and you're one of the lucky ones. Not everyone is in that position. I categorise such marketting strategies as unfair because they break the equality rule of social justice.

[Hexx]

Exactly Aj - I answered yer other post also- but it really seems to come down to this
-people aren't bashing EVE, they are bashing pay to play.
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[FPF-AJTK]

Social Justice? Your talking Politics, not Capitalism. Unless the UN comes out with a "Panel on Universal Video-game pricing and availability" (which would be utterly corrupt and useless like everything else they do) your not gonna get what your asking for. Eve is there due to money. Taldren is NO LONG HERE due to LACK OF MONEY. Capitalism makes the world go round, ask the USSR how well the Communal thing worked out.

BTW, Eve isnt based out of the USA. Its from Iceland. Servers in Iceland and London, IIRC. So its good ol EUROPEAN Capitalism, not American, lol.

I agree Tracy, you of course have every right to voice your opinion, and if you are only attacking the pay to play difficulties you have, if you would have actually said that it would have been taken that way!

As for my situation, Im a divorced, single parent and can still find .50 a day to play.

Im just miffed at the blatant attacks on something that the attackers have zero knowledge of, especially when those attacks indirectly are aimed at the players of that game, myself included.

[FPF-AJTK]

Thats part of it Hexx (thanks for yer post btw) but not all of it by far.

An entire thead among a string of growin somewhat anti-Eve posts finally got under my skin.

[Hexx]

Thats part of it Hexx (thanks for yer post btw) but not all of it by far.

An entire thead among a string of growin somewhat anti-Eve posts finally got under my skin.

I think you have to be willing to consider two other possibilites.

1) You are completely insane.

2) They're not "Anti-Eve" posts. They're actually cleverly disguised "Anti-AJ" posts
I told everyone that being slow of mind, you'd miss the "Anti-AJ" ones, but if they made them sound like "Eve" you'd notice...
(bonus points for referencing the "slow of mind" comment- although probably not that hard  )

[madelf]

i wonder if i can fit it in as EVE is such a good game
YOU MUST TRY EVE 10,000 PLAYERS CANT ALL BE WRONG

Does that mean Bridge is better?


<Snicker>

Yes.

PS  Anyone else play bridge in this community?  I could use an all nighter type of partner when the dynas are in recess.

[Vorcha]

ARE YOU Bashing Bridge Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Are NO subjects holy!!!!!!  I say we get the game police and have all your thumbs removed at the first joint to prevent this kind of blatant attack on something so reverant as Eve and Bridge!  I say we repeal the first amendment of the constitution of the USA and force these guys to stop their attacks!  And um if they don't live here...well um...I guess we can invade..ya thats it.  Invade kill all non-eve and Bridge lovers!!!!!!

Joking aside:  I've never played Eve and have no opinion one way or the other about it....seemed to me that this thread was just a joke and wasn't serious in slanderizing the game though.  As to SFC..yes someday it won't play on our voice activated Ipods w/ nural interfaces and holo-emitters but meh...I'll play it until it stops working.

Heck I still play old DOS games....how desperate am I haha.  Sniff sniff...I really miss my commodore 64 and Atari w/ Asteroids.

V

[Holocat]

ARE YOU Bashing Bridge Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Are NO subjects holy!!!!!!  I say we get the game police and have all your thumbs removed at the first joint to prevent this kind of blatant attack on something so reverant as Eve and Bridge!  I say we repeal the first amendment of the constitution of the USA and force these guys to stop their attacks!  And um if they don't live here...well um...I guess we can invade..ya thats it.  Invade kill all non-eve and Bridge lovers!!!!!!

Death and a copy of Hoyle Casino to all!  YAR!!!  Hehehehehehe, smashing the attitude meter is soooo much fun.

Heck I still play old DOS games....how desperate am I haha.  Sniff sniff...I really miss my commodore 64 and Atari w/ Asteroids.

And I play games on emulators for ancient 8 and 16 bit systems of WAAAAAAY long ago.  I still can't find all my favorites either.

[Rolling]

Now, where was my thread about how people get there panties in a wad when a person/group decides to play something different from SFC.

And to think I was called a liar.

I sat back and waited for this and you all kindly walked right into it.

Good job and very predictable!!!

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Yes Yes

Eve is the root of all problems, without Eve life would be paradise.  If she hadn't biten that forbidden apple why........

<Green whispers to Chuut>

EVE not Eve?

Nevermind.......

[FPF-SCM_TraceyG_XC]

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