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Cruisers had 15 spare parts on GW3

15 is too many
10 (22.7%)
15 is too few
10 (22.7%)
15 is just right
24 (54.5%)

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2004, 12:52:01 pm »
The shields would regenerate much faster if the engines were at full power or 100%.That goes the same with everything else. 

I think you need to explain what you are talking about. What is "everything else"?
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2004, 12:58:33 pm »
The shields would regenerate much faster if the engines were at full power or 100%.That goes the same with everything else. 

I think you need to explain what you are talking about. What is "everything else"?
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

You assume incorrectly.
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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2004, 01:05:55 pm »
The shields would regenerate much faster if the engines were at full power or 100%.That goes the same with everything else. 

I think you need to explain what you are talking about. What is "everything else"?
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

You assume incorrectly.
Please explain?

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2004, 01:13:16 pm »
The shields would regenerate much faster if the engines were at full power or 100%.That goes the same with everything else. 

I think you need to explain what you are talking about. What is "everything else"?
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

You assume incorrectly.
Please explain?

No other way to explain it, your assumption is wrong.   The only thing that controls shield regeneration in SFC:OP is the number of Labs.   Period.
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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2004, 01:15:08 pm »
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

You assume incorrectly.
Please explain?

Your shield regeneration does not depend upon the health of your engines.  They heal at a set rate of one point per turn, plus a free bonus adjustment based upon how many lab systems your ship still has.

You might be getting confused by shield reinforcement.  As your engines heal (or are fixed) you have more power, which might flow towards your shield reinforcement if you aren't asking your ship to use that power elsewhere.  This might make your shields look stronger than they really are.

Labs take no power.  Also, as they don't show on your User Interface, they can't be repaired after being destroyed unless you go back to a supply point and hit "repair" on the supply screen.  Thus, afater a mission or three, you can expect to lose that lab bonus to your sheild regeneration.

Life support takes one point of power, but is constant.  It takes neither more nor less regardless of the health of your engines.  

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2004, 04:38:16 pm »
The shields would regenerate much faster if the engines were at full power or 100%.That goes the same with everything else. 

I think you need to explain what you are talking about. What is "everything else"?
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

You assume incorrectly.
Please explain?

No other way to explain it, your assumption is wrong.   The only thing that controls shield regeneration in SFC:OP is the number of Labs.   Period.
What about the other items I mentioned and no I am not talking about shield reinforcement.I pull my shield slider 1/4 away across to give my shields more energy.That is what I am talking about.

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2004, 05:07:12 pm »

What about the other items I mentioned and no I am not talking about shield reinforcement.I pull my shield slider 1/4 away across to give my shields more energy.That is what I am talking about.
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Just to confirm, you are talking about SFC:OP, right?   ;D
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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2004, 05:09:55 pm »
The shields would regenerate much faster if the engines were at full power or 100%.That goes the same with everything else. 

I think you need to explain what you are talking about. What is "everything else"?
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

You assume incorrectly.
Please explain?

No other way to explain it, your assumption is wrong.   The only thing that controls shield regeneration in SFC:OP is the number of Labs.   Period.
What about the other items I mentioned and no I am not talking about shield reinforcement.I pull my shield slider 1/4 away across to give my shields more energy.That is what I am talking about.

If you are not going to even read the answers people provide you, there is little hope you will ever gain any knowledge. You are in fact talking about shield reinforcement.
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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2004, 05:31:08 pm »
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Life support takes one point of power, but is constant.  It takes neither more nor less regardless of the health of your engines. 
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Umm... I always meant to ask this... In SFB, how long could you last without life support?

Basicly, could you shut it off to use elsewhere for a few turns?

Just wondering, since it would be a desperate measure...
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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2004, 06:04:17 pm »
What about life support.defensive tractors,transporters and electronic warfare.I would assume that those labs get their power from the engines as well.When I lose 10% of my power my shield regenerate slower and some don't come back up until full power is resumed.It might ok with veteran player but how about the new players that will be coming online in the NDF(Near Distant Future).I hope you have a clearer understanding of this now.I am talking about mostly about a 1v1 here on any given time in the Dyna.

You assume incorrectly.
Please explain?

Your shield regeneration does not depend upon the health of your engines.  They heal at a set rate of one point per turn, plus a free bonus adjustment based upon how many lab systems your ship still has.

You might be getting confused by shield reinforcement.  As your engines heal (or are fixed) you have more power, which might flow towards your shield reinforcement if you aren't asking your ship to use that power elsewhere.  This might make your shields look stronger than they really are.

Labs take no power.  Also, as they don't show on your User Interface, they can't be repaired after being destroyed unless you go back to a supply point and hit "repair" on the supply screen.  Thus, afater a mission or three, you can expect to lose that lab bonus to your sheild regeneration.

Life support takes one point of power, but is constant.  It takes neither more nor less regardless of the health of your engines.  



Age......Scipio has the best answer for your question bud.  You are talking about specific shield reinforcement w/ the slider in the control interface.  Shield reinforcement and shield regeneration are two seperate issues bud.  Example if shield #1 (front shield) has a base level of 30 and fire takes it down to 25...it will recharge 1 point per term + whatever your lab bonus is.  If you specifically reinforce this shield using the slider by adding warp power to it it adds to the base rate of the shield.  Thanks Scipio for patiently answering his question...very nicely done.

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2004, 06:38:59 pm »
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Life support takes one point of power, but is constant.  It takes neither more nor less regardless of the health of your engines. 

Umm... I always meant to ask this... In SFB, how long could you last without life support?

Basicly, could you shut it off to use elsewhere for a few turns?

Just wondering, since it would be a desperate measure...

Your crew perishes immediately if you do not allocate power to life support. However if your ship is crippled (as defined in the rules) then Emergency Life Support kicks in and requires no power.

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2004, 06:54:45 pm »

What about the other items I mentioned and no I am not talking about shield reinforcement.I pull my shield slider 1/4 away across to give my shields more energy.That is what I am talking about.
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Just to confirm, you are talking about SFC:OP, right?   ;D
Yes DH I am talking about SFC.2OP/EAW no not SFC3.Thanks Vorcha for clearing that up and Scipio.

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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2004, 11:27:35 pm »
Have you thought about taking the labs of the ship into account when allocating spares? I know that EDR isn't a function accounted for in SFC, but I was wondering what your oppinion is on allowing for it.
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Re: Spare Parts poll
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2004, 02:05:53 pm »
I thought the settings used on GW3 were fine.  No complaints.
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