Topic: Take this PP and shove it. I ain't farming here no more!

[Green]

So who gets screwed?  Well I do!! 

Mission Accomplished.

GG guys.

[KAT J'inn]

So who gets screwed?  Well I do!! 

Mission Accomplished.

GG guys.

SNARL!!

 

[FPF-DieHard]

Pesonally, I would like to see the OOB ships avaliable for general purchase at insanely high prices.  This could work on a short server, like GW3.  Make them about 200,000 to 300,000(assuming a 2 week server).  This way someone who flys a lot can get a reward, if they choose.

That is not a bad idea, I kinda like it.

[KAT J'inn]

Pesonally, I would like to see the OOB ships avaliable for general purchase at insanely high prices.  This could work on a short server, like GW3.  Make them about 200,000 to 300,000(assuming a 2 week server).  This way someone who flys a lot can get a reward, if they choose.

That is not a bad idea, I kinda like it.

Me too.   Just one problem.   How could the FMs buy it?

We'd have to assign them server side some how.  Or take the server down, round them up like wild cats, and get them to buy them while the settings are different. 

There has to be a way.

[FPF-DieHard]

Pesonally, I would like to see the OOB ships avaliable for general purchase at insanely high prices.  This could work on a short server, like GW3.  Make them about 200,000 to 300,000(assuming a 2 week server).  This way someone who flys a lot can get a reward, if they choose.

That is not a bad idea, I kinda like it.

Me too.   Just one problem.   How could the FMs buy it?

We'd have to assign them server side some how.  Or take the server down, round them up like wild cats, and get them to buy them while the settings are different. 

There has to be a way.

J'inn, I could do this with duplicate entries in the shiplist.   No problem.

[el-Karnak]

Pesonally, I would like to see the OOB ships avaliable for general purchase at insanely high prices.  This could work on a short server, like GW3.  Make them about 200,000 to 300,000(assuming a 2 week server).  This way someone who flys a lot can get a reward, if they choose.

That is not a bad idea, I kinda like it.

Me too.   Just one problem.   How could the FMs buy it?

Try a DB edit to modify the PP value for the FM accounts.

[FPF-DieHard]

Pesonally, I would like to see the OOB ships avaliable for general purchase at insanely high prices.  This could work on a short server, like GW3.  Make them about 200,000 to 300,000(assuming a 2 week server).  This way someone who flys a lot can get a reward, if they choose.

That is not a bad idea, I kinda like it.

Me too.   Just one problem.   How could the FMs buy it?

Try a DB edit to modify the PP value for the FM accounts.

That will work to, can you show me how to do that?   

[el-Karnak]

Pesonally, I would like to see the OOB ships avaliable for general purchase at insanely high prices.  This could work on a short server, like GW3.  Make them about 200,000 to 300,000(assuming a 2 week server).  This way someone who flys a lot can get a reward, if they choose.

That is not a bad idea, I kinda like it.

Me too.   Just one problem.   How could the FMs buy it?

Try a DB edit to modify the PP value for the FM accounts.

That will work to, can you show me how to do that?   

I may look into it soon. How hard can it be? 

[Strongbad]

Lets face it, we've taken the SFC community far beyond the original intention or design of SFC2/OP because we make custom maps, decide who wins by virtue of victory conditions, limit DNs, assign them, etc...  the PP system is something they made so that in a disorganized server things would work themselves out.  But we're past that now.

The alternative is to quasi-RPG it all and have "fleets" with loose "command structures" and assign people ship class types (though maybe not specific hulls, except for CCs and up).  Make the whole thing order-of-battle based, and so there would not only be a limited number of DNs and BCHs but even a limited number of CCs and ships like missile bombardment craft.  No offense to anyone, but it seems weird to me to always be facing off in D5Ds, and NACs, and CAD+'s and PF tenders when it oughta be F-CC vs K-D7 kinda stuff a LOT more often.

I think it might make it more fun if some of the serious players got to square off in "lowly" DDs and FFs instead of BCHs and DNs for a change...    We've got a lot of great ship captains.  Why not give them a challenge and see what they can do in a light frigate instead of a battleship?  Make the game about low DV hexes and capturing stuff, advancing ground, and working as a team, not playing 800 missions in one hex to flip a base or something. 

Or, to address what J'inn was saying, if you lose your CA, it SHOULD matter, no matter how many hours you've put in, because your ship was destroyed.  If the Enterprise gets blown up, then its blown up! (snicker)

You get stuck in a refit CL for a couple of "years".  Not to make it so one side woud totally run the other over, mind you, but I think a combo of low DV hexes and fleets that more closely resemble the stuff from the board games might make things less predictable and more interesting, plus it would probably be harder for any one side to win so easily because, in war, there's a lot of ways to lose.

 It couldn't hurt to try at least.  The whole point of the thing is to have fun, right?  I have the most fun when it's not the same old "run the AI over, wash, rinse, repeat" routine.  Or PvP fights that aren't determined by missiles or tractor-anchoring the enemy.

[GDA-S'Cipio]

Pesonally, I would like to see the OOB ships avaliable for general purchase at insanely high prices.  This could work on a short server, like GW3.  Make them about 200,000 to 300,000(assuming a 2 week server).  This way someone who flys a lot can get a reward, if they choose.

That is not a bad idea, I kinda like it.

Me too.   Just one problem.   How could the FMs buy it?

During a DB cleaning, just use Evil Dave's flatfile DB editor to change the FM's ship into the one you want him to have.  It seems to work fine on my DB's so long as I don't repeatedly alter anyone's ship without their buying one in between.

-S'Cipio

[FPF-DieHard]

During a DB cleaning, just use Evil Dave's flatfile DB editor to change the FM's ship into the one you want him to have.  It seems to work fine on my DB's so long as I don't repeatedly alter anyone's ship without their buying one in between.

-S'Cipio

This flatfile editor is like Bigfoot, i keep hearing about it but have never seen a copy.  Can somebody post a link or email it to me?

[GDA-S'Cipio]

This flatfile editor is like Bigfoot, i keep hearing about it but have never seen a copy.  Can somebody post a link or email it to me?

I'll take care of that sometime late tonight.  It's really cool. 

-S'Cipio