Topic: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?  (Read 28519 times)

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2004, 09:10:21 am »
I've reduced to playing on hexes that are not being focused on by other live players. 

Do some damamge there, jump to another hex, do some damamge there for a little bit, then go back and try to turn a hex.  I've been on several neutral hexes to increase the size of the Kling-Fed boarder.

This way I can keep playing and doing some good instead of being killed on a hex that 10 klingons want, and not being able to touch it for 30 minutes to an hour.

I have greater chances of not getting jumped by several klings, and I get to kill a lot of AI's.

Might do better if I played for hours on end, but I don't, so I do a very little actual good this way, but I like it better than fighting 20 Klingons wanting thier hex.

Other night I did it, and I did get far, turned a few klingon hexes before I got thier attention, when I got it, just moved to a different place and started working. :D

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2004, 09:28:40 am »
Server balance is always based on "last server's turnout", never on the current situation.

Granted, the GW series has taken on a life of it's own.  It was only designed to be a "fun" series to fill time between the main servers.  That doesn't change the core fact of the matter, though, which is this constant bickering about player numbers caused by the changes wroght between given servers.

I'd support a "sign-up" or "registration" process, about a week before server kickoff, with no strings attached, only so the Admins can be prepared to know what the teams are, and can plan the upcoming server accordingly...

Otherwise, we need to be ready to "fly blind" as to turnout each upcoming server and we'll be dancing this dance over and over...

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2004, 09:43:15 am »
The only solution that has ever worked is people switching sides to even things out.

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2004, 09:44:04 am »
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I'd support a "sign-up" or "registration" process, about a week before server kickoff, with no strings attached, only so the Admins can be prepared to know what the teams are, and can plan the upcoming server accordingly...

Otherwise, we need to be ready to "fly blind" as to turnout each upcoming server and we'll be dancing this dance over and over...

*nod*. agreed.

..hm.. Isn't there a tool that converts the current flatfile to a SQL DB? Perhaps we can get a current count.


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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2004, 09:45:51 am »
The only solution that has ever worked is people switching sides to even things out.

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What about my commitment to coalition?


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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2004, 09:57:40 am »
Nobody wants to ratio the victory points to number of missions run per side so you are never going to get around variable player numbers, therefore the side with the greater number of player missions will nearly always win.

I would love to do it. I'm just that sick!  ;D  It would be easier with SQL, but can can be done with the flatfile too... was it CW5 that posted all the mission stats from the db?  The only problem with missions analysis from the db as I have discovered is that bugged (host left) missions often still report incorrect results and there is no way to detect the bugged results from the actual ones after the fact. Before this is really feasible for vc calcs we need >90% mission stability or a mechanism in the scripts to prevent reporting results if a "host left" or some such error is encountered.


P.S. I'll go fred or kzin if necessary too... perhaps we should have a poll on current numbers?

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2004, 10:16:58 am »
Personally, I'm having a great deal of fun both learning a new race and rediscovering a game which has brought me many a great night with my friends over the last 5 years.  I'm sucking at the moment, but I've noticed that enough alcohol makes me feel like I'm flying better, and besides, I'm having fun, outnumbered or not.
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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2004, 10:54:00 am »

Cleaven,

I am gonna be polite.

If you actually were out-numbered it was probably b/c the server had just gone back up.

Until about 2130 this evening, it was 4-6 alliance against 12-15 coalition.

Last night, prime time 2100 EST, there was all of TWO alliance pilots on for over an hour. 

So spare me the blue plague routine.

Why don't you pull your polite head out of where ever you have it, because you might notice that I'm not even playing on that server except to try the missions and the shiplist. Go ahead and cry foul all you want but it isn't me that's ganging up on your poor excuse for a whinge.

As for your little problem with the blue plague, why is it that when the Alliance is outnumbered it's a white wash and when the Coalition is outnumbered it's because the server just rebooted. Pathetic!

You were't even interested in what time it was or what day it was that I came on. Just that it couldn't be possible that what you say is not correct all the time. Next time I drop in and see the same situation I'll send you a nice big fat screen shot just to prove it, then you can cry blue plague all you want. So go cry foul to somebody who cares, or learn to accept that what you saw is not the only way it is all the time.

Cleaven,

If you aren't playing on the server, then STFU and go troll elsewhere with your snide, obtuse comments.  You log on once or twice and claim there is no numbers imbalance,  STFU,


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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2004, 11:20:41 am »
Well,

I joined this morning, I musta been the first Fed on.  I was only fed in a room of 15 Klingons.

Later on (~hour or so)  Like 7 more Feds and Kzin came on, but just as many klnigons came on too. lol.

Didn't stop me from causing havok too.

Did my fist PvP today, almost killed him, but DANG d2 disconnected us apparrently.  :cuss:

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2004, 11:36:17 am »
If the SSCF has indeed left permanently we do have a problem.  I have been mulling over this situation for a few days, and will present a proposed solution in another thread. 

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2004, 04:25:03 pm »
If the SSCF has indeed left permanently we do have a problem.  I have been mulling over this situation for a few days, and will present a proposed solution in another thread. 

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2004, 04:51:20 pm »
What confuses the heck out of me is, of all the games that the SSFC could choose to leave SFC over... they choose EvE?!  There's plenty of MMORPG out in the industry that's more successfully than EvE. 

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2004, 05:21:18 pm »
Uuuuuh... ya think ya got enought anime there, Bossman? :skeptic: :screwloose: ;) ;D

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2004, 05:23:22 pm »
Uuuuuh... ya think ya got enought anime there, Bossman? :skeptic: :screwloose: ;) ;D

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2004, 05:25:21 pm »
Uuuuuh... ya think ya got enought anime there, Bossman? :skeptic: :screwloose: ;) ;D

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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2004, 05:45:58 pm »
The only solution that has ever worked is people switching sides to even things out.

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What about my commitment to coalition?

What about it?  There is not going to be a GW4 if the numbers don't even out.

PS:  It is good to see Cleaven showing his normal amount of class  :thumbsdown:

But the Troll is right, a system where the VC's are relative to the total missions flow would make the number's situation irrelevant.

PPS:  Last time the situation got totally f*cked on a GW server because of a bad setup the server was reset with 100% of the admins supporting that decision.  Please leave the "partisan" BS  out of this thread, I quite frankly do not care about alleged injustaices that happened 3 years ago.  You never move forward looking backward.

Mazzepa,  :thumbsup:   I take back every bad thing I have ever said about you.


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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2004, 06:38:41 pm »
First of all have SSCF confirmed they are leaving the game? as far as i've heard they are just taking a break from D2. There is chance they might come back, everyone needs a break from a game sometime, especially if they have been playing it for several years.

Also i believe some players have took a break due to d2 burnout, i could see this sort of thing happening when a regular dyna schedule was drawn up and the gaps were reduced inbetween each campaign. I dont know if a large amount of the playerbase feel this way, but perhaps some players are struggling to fit in with this schedule.

Just my observation but the flaming that happened over some previous dynas drove off some players also, i know several players who decided to take a break because of what happened previously.

These are perhaps some reasons why the numbers have gone down.






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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2004, 06:39:20 pm »
THis is the last lop-sided server I am going to have anything to do with.  Playing, admining, whatever. 


My bad, DH.  I thought at least you guys might be proud that the series has been popular and this one seems to be running fairly smoothly. 


Thanks for what you guys have done, at any rate.  I am having fun.





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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2004, 06:40:52 pm »
SSCF, except for a few pilots, has left the game.

KHH has shown up in force the last 2 servers.

The math seems pretty simple.


True enough.


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Re: Is it just me or are we supposed to have more alliance pilots?
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2004, 06:51:47 pm »
First of all have SSCF confirmed they are leaving the game?

The SSCF is gone and will be gone for quite some time with the exception of Hooch, Ternado, and myself.