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These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« on: August 27, 2004, 11:21:25 am »
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Ever since Mr. Spock and Capt. Kirk manned the original Star Trek series in the 1960s, subsequent sagas have proved symmetrical: The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager all clocked in at exactly seven seasons. But the latest, Star Trek: Enterprise, nearly didn't make it past three. Low ratings, a creative lull and a new network focus on young women led UPN to waver on the series.

?We did something last season we had never done before on any Star Trek,? says co-creator and executive producer Rick Berman: ?a season-long arc where the Earth was in peril and we had Enterprise off in this strange part of space battling Xindi. You can't put the Earth in peril two years in a row, and at the same time you can't have our crew off sweetly exploring space,? as it did in the show's previous season.

The show was saved only after producer Paramount cut its price tag, and the network decided to move the show to sci-fi-friendly Friday night.

Now there are other changes in store, including more stunt casting, shorter story lines and a new maturity among the Enterprise crew. ?Our characters are no longer wet behind the ears, they're no longer indecisive; they've been to hell and back,? Berman says, promising episodes in which ?they're going to be a little bit closer to the Kirks and Picards? of old.

And there will be other old friends: Enterprise has signed Brent Spiner to play the great-great-grandfather of Dr. Soong, a character he once played in Next Generation. Producers are negotiating with Capt. Kirk himself, William Shatner, to appear as an ?incarnation? of his former character. And Paul Wight, who plays wrestler Big Show on UPN's WWE Smackdown, guest-stars as an Orion slave trader, another character last seen in the original series.


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[puke]Shatner as an "incarnation" of Kirk?  How the hell do they do THAT?  Come on people.[/puke]

When the stunt casting kicks in, the show is truly down the tubes.

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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2004, 11:39:50 am »
Quote from: Gambler on August 27, 2004, 11:21:25 am
USA Today

Ever since Mr. Spock and Capt. Kirk manned the original Star Trek series in the 1960s, subsequent sagas have proved symmetrical: The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager all clocked in at exactly seven seasons. But the latest, Star Trek: Enterprise, nearly didn't make it past three. Low ratings, a creative lull and a new network focus on young women led UPN to waver on the series.

?We did something last season we had never done before on any Star Trek,? says co-creator and executive producer Rick Berman: ?a season-long arc where the Earth was in peril and we had Enterprise off in this strange part of space battling Xindi. You can't put the Earth in peril two years in a row, and at the same time you can't have our crew off sweetly exploring space,? as it did in the show's previous season.

The show was saved only after producer Paramount cut its price tag, and the network decided to move the show to sci-fi-friendly Friday night.

Now there are other changes in store, including more stunt casting, shorter story lines and a new maturity among the Enterprise crew. ?Our characters are no longer wet behind the ears, they're no longer indecisive; they've been to hell and back,? Berman says, promising episodes in which ?they're going to be a little bit closer to the Kirks and Picards? of old.

And there will be other old friends: Enterprise has signed Brent Spiner to play the great-great-grandfather of Dr. Soong, a character he once played in Next Generation. Producers are negotiating with Capt. Kirk himself, William Shatner, to appear as an ?incarnation? of his former character. And Paul Wight, who plays wrestler Big Show on UPN's WWE Smackdown, guest-stars as an Orion slave trader, another character last seen in the original series.


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[puke]Shatner as an "incarnation" of Kirk?  How the hell do they do THAT?  Come on people.[/puke]

When the stunt casting kicks in, the show is truly down the tubes.





There will be some lame time-travel thing where Kirk, prior to his glorious death (falling off of a walkway), will go back in time.

I want to see stunt casting, though.  I think the show could use more action.  Hell, Kirk could not go three shows without getting into a fistfight with someone....

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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2004, 01:24:03 pm »
Quote from: Gambler on August 27, 2004, 11:21:25 am

The show was saved only after producer Paramount cut its price tag, and the network decided to move the show to sci-fi-friendly Friday night.


They had better not put it on from 2100-2300 as that is when Stargate is on and Enterprise will get trounced even worse than it did on Wednesdays.
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2004, 01:40:23 pm »
From what I'm finding online.  The Friday night UPN schedule will be Enterprise at 7 Central followed by America's Next Top Model at 8 Central.

Sounds like a good lead in to Stargate Friday.  I wonder if the programming geniuses came to that conclusion on their own or it was an accident?
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2004, 02:15:13 pm »
Well, the good news for me is that I don't get to watch it anyway so I can't them drive ST into the ground. 
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2004, 05:08:33 pm »
Now, you see, I want to see more exploration and boldly going...  TOS did this very well, and TNG was a close second, whereas DS9 and VOY seemed to stray more from this pure goal, as much as they could get away with.  I want to see more andorians, and the introduction of other cool races that have only been shown here and there through other series.  Remember the pig faced guy from the TOS epidsode where we met spocks pappy?  As bad of a costume as that was, I'd like to see a more modern update.  The one cool thing about the whole xindi thing was the various races of their species, otherwise the whole season sucked dung covered monkey hiney.
Also, I've never noticed any UPN show last on fridays on UPN.  It seems like it's just where they toss shows that are dead or dieing before pulling the plug.  AM I wrong?
I'd say that this is a good thing, but I am STILL watching for two reasons:
1) Want to hear Bakkula start off a show with "Oh Boy..."  You know what I'm talking about, and you know you agree.
2) Hoshi is hot.
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2004, 08:26:40 pm »
That was a Tellarite, I believe.
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2004, 03:15:12 am »
If you click here on this article of appearence inconsistancies (found on the Ex-Astris Scientia website), you'll find your wish has come true, Clark!
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2004, 10:19:42 am »
They had a Tellarite, but it was in a fairly subpar epsiode.  You might see a Tellarite in the upcomming episode with Brent Spinner, but I think he'll just be an extra.

BTW, from what I've heard, the story idea for Kirk was originally pitched by William Shatner, and the producers liked the idea.  I don't know how good Shatner is at comming up with story ideas, but I'm willing to give it a chance.  Also, Shatner's writers would be writing his episode, since they've been hired as Writers for the season anyway.
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2004, 10:32:07 am »
Well, at this point I'm so bored and disgusted with Enterprise, having Kirk somehow come back in some form is probably the only way they'd convince to even give the show a shot at watching it.  I'm not intrigued enough that if I have the time I think I'll watch which ever episode it is that Kirk is around.  I'm thinking they'll have it in the US broadcast around the time of the ratings sweeps.
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2004, 10:16:58 pm »
That dude was a pig man?  huh, didn't even think the two were the same species for some reason.  Shoulda seen that one coming.
Oh well, I was watching a little of STIV today, and remembered the many and various fed species at kirks trial.  Would like more of them.
Also, if they really gotta bring kirk into an episode, hope they use the Enterprise (refitted) or enterprise A.  Man, those ships were so cool.
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ‘Enterprise'
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2004, 01:42:20 am »
Quote from: Clark Kent on August 27, 2004, 05:08:33 pm
1) Want to hear Bakkula start off a show with "Oh Boy..."  You know what I'm talking about, and you know you agree.

I was sorely disappointed that the first episode didn't begin that way. But they can make it up to me by still doing it in a future episode.
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2004, 09:06:12 am »
Maybe that's the series finale.

Have they had Dean Stockwell on as a guest yet?
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Re: These almost weren't the voyages of ?Enterprise'
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2004, 12:12:16 pm »
Yeah, I think he was on the first or second season as some sort of xenophobic militant alien.
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