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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2004, 04:29:40 pm »
I'm having fun flying all sorts of ships I refused to fly in the past. Only one I haven't enjoyed so far is the D5VK. Despite having 2 drone racks added, it's still crap, imho, compared to the other D5s. It's underpowered and the fighters are lacklustre to say the least. Does have one thing in its favour, and that is the K refit.

Talking of which, I noticed that some K refits are out now. Would be nice for them all to come out earlier in future servers.

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Age, the K refit is the replacement of a number of Ph2s on Klingon ships by ph1s. Turns, for example, a D7C into a D7L, D5C into the best little ship for me to fly since sliced bread, D5L amongst others.

The balance between Klingon ships and Federation ships is that the Klingons have more phasers (which are weaker) and that they can put more ships in the field (in SFB scenarios and F&E). It's the quantity v quality doctrines. Whether that should apply to SFC is a bit debatable imho. I for one would like to see the ph2 removed from all the races that have it on their warships.
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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2004, 04:33:40 pm »
Thanks Mog.That intersting to know I don't have 3.4 yet.

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2004, 05:03:26 pm »
I'm not happy about the lack of Kzinti players.

Yeah, but ... eh ... we'll live.

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Nevertheless,  I am personally having a ball.   Even though I have lost every single PvP match. 

For me it's having a wingman.  I really like winging with Die Hard and Green and the others.

Definately agree w/ ya on that one.  Even if I lose or my wingman gets blown-up ... its a blast (sts).

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   Die Hard especially because it's funny to hear his blood pressure rise when he's screaming at me. <snicker>

ABSOLUTELY.  DH is probably the person I enjoy flying allied with the most simply because it is a hoot to hear him yell at me to do one thing or another (even if I'm actually doing the right moves and he is ... isn't).  Not because I like being yelled at (though I am use to that), but rather I like seeing a player who really enjoys the game that much more.  It actually makes me enjoy it too (In a perverse, Kroma, kinda way. ;) )

Its been a GG

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2004, 05:06:50 pm »

  Next the Kzin will deny flying drone boats  :lol:

HEY!  I don't fly droners ... I fly "disrupter impared" ships.

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2004, 05:07:48 pm »
I'm not happy about the lack of Kzinti players.

Yeah, but ... eh ... we'll live.

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Nevertheless,  I am personally having a ball.   Even though I have lost every single PvP match. 

For me it's having a wingman.  I really like winging with Die Hard and Green and the others.

Definately agree w/ ya on that one.  Even if I lose or my wingman gets blown-up ... its a blast (sts).

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   Die Hard especially because it's funny to hear his blood pressure rise when he's screaming at me. <snicker>

ABSOLUTELY.  DH is probably the person I enjoy flying allied with the most simply because it is a hoot to hear him yell at me to do one thing or another (even if I'm actually doing the right moves and he is ... isn't).  Not because I like being yelled at (though I am use to that), but rather I like seeing a player who really enjoys the game that much more.  It actually makes me enjoy it too (In a perverse, Kroma, kinda way. ;) )

Its been a GG


Yeah...DH is a hoot on voicecomms...dude is into the game...heheh.


BTW...I'll note for the record that today when I was home for lunch, the server population was around 9 players and two thirds of them were Klingon during that hour.  Oddly enough, the Coalition was the side that was on the defensive...heheh.  


I was huntin' ya, Green...not that the C8B has a chance...but we were lookin' for you and Bear....heheh.


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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2004, 05:24:01 pm »
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or my wingman gets blown-up ... its a blast (sts).



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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2004, 05:27:13 pm »
Was he talking about you, J'inn!?    :o
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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2004, 06:00:06 pm »
Was he talking about you, J'inn!?    :o

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2004, 10:44:22 pm »
A few things to say on this thread:

1) Lepton, I hope you stick around, but take a break if you need to, just come back to visit and give us sh*t once in a while. ;)

2) I will make a good low DV all races large map...  I will make a good low DV all races large map...
 I will make a good low DV all races large map... ...  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

The dynamic of a low DV map is different, faster and fun, a do or die situation (traditional alliances necessary), one that can turn in a day or even a few hours...

But what's this?:
Yes, well, that..
... that and my current shiplist enhancements in extra columns that I'm doing until I can test it. I *am* defining which ships are "LINE_SHIPS" you know..

.. if this works out, I'll have a shiplist API that support what the web interface will require without the ships being hardcoded. Of course it needs to be hardcoded anyways, in the shiplist.. but you just have to maintain THAT one source.

.. also, missions can become yet more savy.


More to come later. Must work now, and play tonight. This entire thing is shelved until I am satiated with gameplay. ;)

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hmmm very cool. If I get what you are talking about, I have begun something similar by adding info to the last column of the shiplist to restrict individual ships from purchase on the webmap shipyard.

If you can add new columns and it won't upset the server or client and is accessible by mission scripts and web apps, then it is well worth doing, should be standardised and discussed! That would be too cool, plenty of uses!

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2004, 03:10:24 am »
What methods, if any, are available to to give more stable multiplayer PvP missions? I get the impression there are none.

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2004, 03:39:06 am »
Broadband, and a lot of ram.
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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2004, 03:41:22 am »
Hope u dont quit Lepton. I really like ya. Despite what some may think. You have a distinctive character that I think I'd miss. I'd sure missi you as a player too.

Servers... There's something for everyone, but in your case, you state there isnt enough there for you. Hope that changes with the way future servers are run. Shame to have someone like you quit. You're a popular guy. You add a lot to the forums. Always an interesting thread with you in it on the 1st page, heh.


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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2004, 06:42:58 am »
Broadband, and a lot of ram.

I dont think this helps increase stability at all, i have had broadband for the past 5 months or so and there were times on the D2 where i crashed 4 missions in a row. Funny thing was after that i didnt crash for 3 days.

I find GSA more stable to me than D2, at least it can hold 6 player battles, most of the time.

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2004, 07:43:36 am »
Broadband, and a lot of ram.

I dont think this helps increase stability at all, i have had broadband for the past 5 months or so and there were times on the D2 where i crashed 4 missions in a row. Funny thing was after that i didnt crash for 3 days.

I find GSA more stable to me than D2, at least it can hold 6 player battles, most of the time.

Your oponents could have had crappy connections.

i think good computer + Good Graphics card + high speed/low latency conection - Spyware and other resources eating crap = stable multiplayer.

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2004, 08:11:08 am »

True, but i used to be able to host 6 player games on GSA with 56k :P sometimes lower depending on what time of the day.

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2004, 08:41:05 am »
ABSOLUTELY.  DH is probably the person I enjoy flying allied with the most simply because it is a hoot to hear him yell at me to do one thing or another (even if I'm actually doing the right moves and he is ... isn't).  Not because I like being yelled at (though I am use to that), but rather I like seeing a player who really enjoys the game that much more.  It actually makes me enjoy it too (In a perverse, Kroma, kinda way. ;) )

its been a GG


DH on TS:



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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2004, 09:31:08 am »
ABSOLUTELY.  DH is probably the person I enjoy flying allied with the most simply because it is a hoot to hear him yell at me to do one thing or another (even if I'm actually doing the right moves and he is ... isn't).  Not because I like being yelled at (though I am use to that), but rather I like seeing a player who really enjoys the game that much more.  It actually makes me enjoy it too (In a perverse, Kroma, kinda way. ;) )

its been a GG


DH on TS:




*snicker*


Now hold on there. DH was very civil with me the other night on TS. Yes thats right. He only yelled at me once during a planet assalt.......something about turning off my tracktor beam during close combat with a D5E...... I accidentally hooked it on DHs ship :-[


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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2004, 10:17:12 am »

True, but i used to be able to host 6 player games on GSA with 56k :P sometimes lower depending on what time of the day.

Direct IP are even more stable, and great when you want to fly for 5 hour training sessions as you don't have to pop in and out.
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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2004, 10:47:07 am »

True, but i used to be able to host 6 player games on GSA with 56k :P sometimes lower depending on what time of the day.

Direct IP are even more stable, and great when you want to fly for 5 hour training sessions as you don't have to pop in and out.

Every scripter, potential or otherwise, should use the FFA mission script for multi-player used by Direct IP games as their base starting point when creating dynaverse compatible mission scripts.

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Re: D2 on its last legs for me
« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2004, 11:32:13 am »

True, but i used to be able to host 6 player games on GSA with 56k :P sometimes lower depending on what time of the day.

Direct IP are even more stable, and great when you want to fly for 5 hour training sessions as you don't have to pop in and out.

Every scripter, potential or otherwise, should use the FFA mission script for multi-player used by Direct IP games as their base starting point when creating dynaverse compatible mission scripts.

On a similar note, is mission loading time a factor?  I've noticed that in multiplayer, the stock D2 missions take longer to load.   is this a tweakable setting?
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