Topic: Mini Update and Tech Help requested. (Read 2304 times)

Sirgod · « **on:** August 23, 2004, 08:06:25 pm »

Hi all, Sunday morning My Powersupply Blew up again, (Yeah I know, like the third time since I've known you all) anyway, I had to put off untill today to get a new one. Anyway, I had some Big Bucks come in today do to Insurance from My Nephew's Passing.

I decided to go ahead and go Beyond my Normal Tech Skills and try Some more Current Hardware.

I did this in addition to Getting a new Powersupply for my old system, Albiet what I'm typing on right now.

Actually that's Two Problems, I bought DDR Memory to et out of the Dark Ages, and this XP PRo system will only post with 512 MB , and not the full gig.

But onto my Real Problem today.

I Bought a ThermalTake V7000D case, with 5 fans built in, and a Matching Powersupply, a A+GPB 550W eps-12V.

Also the New mother Board is a K8T - NEO by MSI and a AMD 64 3200+. Also IT has that new ATI X800 Vid card.

This thing will not post at all. I've tried doing everything down to the Bare Minimum, MEmory MB, and vid Card, And have went Blind Staring at the Wiring Harness Hookups. Even tried moving Memory around, But It won't start up to save my life.

I'm Hoping and Praying that someone here has a set up similiar to mine, and Can give me some Pointers on this. I've built 100's of PC's in my day, BUt I feel Like I'm missing something Completly Simple.
The Powersupply won't Even Spin up. Nothing happens. However, the same Brand of PS works perfectly on this PC.

I know I shouldn't worry about It, as I still have this one, But I was really hopping for the first time in my life to have a Top of the line system.

BTW, I should have rethought Going with the ThermalTake case I choice, IT wieghs Probably close to 90LBs fully loaded.

Anyway, any suggestions would be very welcome.

Stephen

kmelew · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2004, 08:12:24 pm »

Are there any switches on the motherboard for CPU speed?

Sirgod · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2004, 08:45:42 pm »

Quote from: kmelew on August 23, 2004, 08:12:24 pm

Are there any switches on the motherboard for CPU speed?

No Sir, None at all. The Literature on Both the Case and the PS was very limited also.

From what I understand The MB is one of those that sits itself.

Stephen

Sorry about that, I accidentaly Posted in your thread Kmelew.

kmelew · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2004, 08:52:58 pm »

Quote from: Stephen on August 23, 2004, 08:45:42 pm

Quote from: kmelew on August 23, 2004, 08:12:24 pm
Are there any switches on the motherboard for CPU speed?

No Sir, None at all. The Literature on Both the Case and the PS was very limited also.

From what I understand The MB is one of those that sits itself.

Stephen

Sorry about that, I accidentaly Posted in your thread Kmelew.

What because you're a moderate now you think you can write in my posts??

j/k

You might want to consider buying new memory.

Sirgod · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2004, 09:03:22 pm »

JUst Did today actually, BUt It's lifetime Warrenty.

Stephen

Javora · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2004, 09:03:52 pm »

Have you had that ThermalTake powersupply tested yet? I think I would check into that and it is easy to do just plug the 550w power supply into your old system and see if it powers up. I've never been all that enthused about ThermalTake or MSI for that matter. The MSI motherboard may be bad as well, if the powersupply is ok than I would look at having the motherboard tested next. Wait, did you have the Ram removed from the motherboard when you tried to post? If not remove the Ram and try to post again. It should give you all kinds of beeps but at least you know the motherboard is responding. Another thing to check is if the motherboard is connected to the speaker correctly. I can't remember how many times that I read a thread where someone was freaking out because their system would not post and the motherboard wasn't even connected to the speaker. Now Stephen I know you are smarter than that but I do like to try and cover all bases.

As for your Ram issue in the old system, did you check and see if the Ram you bought is on the approved list by the motherboard maker and you bought in matched pairs? That can make a difference.

I have to run out the door soon so I'll check back latter. I'm sure someone will have the correct answer by then. But if not you can always go to The Tech Support Forum and start a thread there. Hope this helps.

Dash Jones · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2004, 09:46:14 pm »

Quote from: Javora on August 23, 2004, 09:03:52 pm

Have you had that ThermalTake powersupply tested yet? I think I would check into that and it is easy to do just plug the 550w power supply into your old system and see if it powers up. I've never been all that enthused about ThermalTake or MSI for that matter. The MSI motherboard may be bad as well, if the powersupply is ok than I would look at having the motherboard tested next. Wait, did you have the Ram removed from the motherboard when you tried to post? If not remove the Ram and try to post again. It should give you all kinds of beeps but at least you know the motherboard is responding. Another thing to check is if the motherboard is connected to the speaker correctly. I can't remember how many times that I read a thread where someone was freaking out because their system would not post and the motherboard wasn't even connected to the speaker. Now Stephen I know you are smarter than that but I do like to try and cover all bases.

As for your Ram issue in the old system, did you check and see if the Ram you bought is on the approved list by the motherboard maker and you bought in matched pairs? That can make a difference.

I have to run out the door soon so I'll check back latter. I'm sure someone will have the correct answer by then. But if not you can always go to The Tech Support Forum and start a thread there. Hope this helps.

Wow, well, wow, you covered everything I was going to say, so there's no point in me saying it now.

Elvis · « **Reply #7 on:** August 24, 2004, 01:04:20 pm »

First thing I would do is try out your non working 64 system with a known power supply. If the PS still doesn't come I would guess there is a short somewhere.

- take the mainboard and put it on a non-conductive surface;
- insert the CPU and install the HSF; ensure that the base of the HSF is flush against the CPU's heatspreader;
- reset the CMOS;
- connect the D bracket 2, the thingy with the 4 LEDs, the manual explains the codes
- connect the PSU to the mainboard, then turn the PSU on (short the PWR_SW pins on the front I/O-header thingy with a screwdriver);
- the system should power on. If it does reinstall it into the case making sure to use standoffs for proper clearance. If it doesn't return the MB.

Just plain old Punisher · « **Reply #8 on:** August 24, 2004, 07:21:43 pm »

Make sure the CPU fan is connected to the correct 3-pin socket located near the CPU. Motherboards won't boot up if they don't detect a functional CPU fan.

Now keep in mind if your CPU fan takes a large 4-pin harddrive-type power connector, the fan may still be getting juice...but you still need to plug in the small sensor wire into the socket near the CPU.

Also make sure all the PCI/AGP cards are seated properly. If none of this works, remove them all except the video card and see if your computer boots up.

Sirgod · « **Reply #9 on:** August 24, 2004, 08:06:43 pm »

Thanks for all the advice guys, It turns out that the MB was Sold Fried. They have the Pc in there store, and they are trying to get a new MB in as soon as they can. + they put the whole thing together for Free, since I bought everything there.

Stephen

Capt. Mike · « **Reply #10 on:** August 24, 2004, 08:22:57 pm »

That's great...just finished my son's new 'puter..2.8 GHz, with a gig of memory..XP Pro, the rest of the usual...I did what you did, got the 550W power supply (don't remember brand name, but I got it at CompUSA, and haven't had probs with them).. runs nice

Mike

Sirgod · « **Reply #11 on:** August 24, 2004, 08:42:40 pm »

I tell you, One practicly needs a 550 PS anymore with all the things a Pc has these days. 350 just doesn't cut It anymore.

Stephen

Javora · « **Reply #12 on:** August 24, 2004, 08:46:04 pm »

Quote from: Stephen on August 24, 2004, 08:42:40 pm

I tell you, One practicly needs a 550 PS anymore with all the things a Pc has these days. 350 just doesn't cut It anymore.

Stephen

That is why I suggested that you take your new power supply and test it on your old system. I was worried that your old power supply wouldn't be able to power your new system and it would lead you on a wild goose chase. Glad everything has sorted itself out Stephen. Take care.

Sirgod · « **Reply #13 on:** August 26, 2004, 01:45:03 pm »

Thanks again guys, Just got the Pc back today as a matter of fact, and am getting ready to Hook It up. The second Monitor came in also, so I'll have two ProView 19" Flat screens to go with It. This means I can Watch Wrath of Khan while playing OP.

Stephen the Very happy Person right now.

Redshift the Kook · « **Reply #14 on:** August 26, 2004, 04:43:28 pm »

Well done Stephen, that sounds like one kick ass system! I'm a bit envious actually.

As for PSU's it's quality not quantity that counts. Just because it's rated at 550w doesn't mean it can handle anything that's thrown at it. I've got a 480w Antec TrueBlue PSU and it serves me very well. It's quiet, has seperate voltage rails so an increase in 1 rail won't have a negative impact on another and it glows blue, lol. Mind you, a quality PSU is probably geared more to overclockers than people running PC's at stock speeds, (but I overclock so it's important for me).

Sirgod · « **Reply #15 on:** August 26, 2004, 05:14:26 pm »

Quote from: Redshift on August 26, 2004, 04:43:28 pm

Well done Stephen, that sounds like one kick ass system! I'm a bit envious actually.

As for PSU's it's quality not quantity that counts. Just because it's rated at 550w doesn't mean it can handle anything that's thrown at it. I've got a 480w Antec TrueBlue PSU and it serves me very well. It's quiet, has seperate voltage rails so an increase in 1 rail won't have a negative impact on another and it glows blue, lol. Mind you, a quality PSU is probably geared more to overclockers than people running PC's at stock speeds, (but I overclock so it's important for me).

You are very Correct. I'll be keeping an Eye out on a new PS myself, But I'll do alot more Research before I buy It.

Stephen with Double Vision.

Elvis · « **Reply #16 on:** August 26, 2004, 11:25:09 pm »

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I've got a 480w Antec TrueBlue PSU and it serves me very well.

Antec makes a good power supply, but the TrueBlue 480 doesn't have dual 12v rails.

Right now the Cadiillac of Antec PSUs:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-924&depa=0

Modular and everything.

I've got an Enermax Noisetaker 420 running my K8T Neo, AMD 64 3200, and eVGA 6800GT. No complaints.

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