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Offline KHH Jakle

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That's not really him, is it??
« on: August 18, 2004, 12:20:43 pm »
THE Steve Cole?
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2004, 12:24:23 pm »
Quote from: KHH Jakle on August 18, 2004, 12:20:43 pm
THE Steve Cole?

Yup looks like Steve Cole, the real question is whther or not it is SVC. ;-)
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2004, 12:33:44 pm »
It is.
Check the Source Code thread in the General Forum for more details...
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2004, 12:35:04 pm »
Quote from: Strafer on August 18, 2004, 12:33:44 pm
It is.
Check the Source Code thread in the General Forum for more details...

It's gotta be
Only someone who uses a Mac could have developed the nonsensical background they use .
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2004, 04:23:53 pm »
Quote from: Hexx on August 18, 2004, 12:35:04 pm
Quote from: Strafer on August 18, 2004, 12:33:44 pm
It is.
Check the Source Code thread in the General Forum for more details...

It's gotta be
Only someone who uses a Mac could have developed the nonsensical background they use .

LOL! Yeah, from what I have heard, he has never even PLAYED SFC as it wont run on a crapintosh.
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2004, 07:50:33 pm »
If I felt that bad about Windows, I would at least be using Linux.
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Quote from: Gook on August 06, 2004, 04:20:13 am

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2004, 12:31:35 am »
You all are a riot. Steve Cole drops in and all you can comment on is he doesn't like PCs. :rofl:
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2004, 12:37:56 am »
The comments are rooted in the fact that Steve hasnt played a PC game based on his creation...because a Mac wont run SFC... ;D
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2004, 02:35:04 am »
Quote from: Rod ONeal on August 19, 2004, 12:31:35 am
You all are a riot. Steve Cole drops in and all you can comment on is he doesn't like PCs. :rofl:

Nobody would have mentioned it except for his statement:-

Quote from: SteveCole on August 18, 2004, 10:54:02 am
I am Steve Cole, president of ADB Inc. and designer of SFB (well, most of it, a couple of hundred people have designed a ship or a scenario or a rule or a race). Nice to see so much interest. I have never seen SFC (any of them) as they don't run on my Mac, so don't expect me to make perfect sense about this. And no, please don't try to tell me to buy a PC or how to get it to run on a Mac. Given the time demands of running a business and commanding a military police unit I don't have time. More in next message.

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Quote from: Gook on August 06, 2004, 04:20:13 am

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2004, 03:02:47 am »
Quote from: FPF-AJTK on August 18, 2004, 04:23:53 pm
Quote from: Hexx on August 18, 2004, 12:35:04 pm
Quote from: Strafer on August 18, 2004, 12:33:44 pm
It is.
Check the Source Code thread in the General Forum for more details...

It's gotta be
Only someone who uses a Mac could have developed the nonsensical background they use .

LOL! Yeah, from what I have heard, he has never even PLAYED SFC as it wont run on a crapintosh.


Correction, he said he has never even seen SFC.  The product he produces are great, but that is a bit cheeky to me.  A PC game based on his work and he hasn't even tried to see it in action.  There's clearly another issue at work there than his being busy or disliking PCs.

It's as if Stan Lee said "You know I have never even seen the Spiderman movie, because I just don't like movies and I am too busy working on new comics"
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2004, 04:14:30 am »
It's really the G-racks and lack of plasma bolts that puts him off.
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Quote from: Gook on August 06, 2004, 04:20:13 am

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2004, 04:19:45 am »
Nah, its the lack of swordfish and other drone variants....... ;)
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2004, 04:44:59 am »
No, most likely its the lack of ^%#$%^$#&^%&^%$^$#^%^&&^$ RETROGRADE!

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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2004, 07:17:42 am »
Actually, I can see where SVC's coming from in all this...

Being around computers most of my life, I've seen Mac people who (like SVC), won't touch a DOS / Windows computer, I've seen people swear OS2 or Linux or any number of other operating systems are better than Microshafts... ;)

Don't worry about it.  Now, if SVC's upgraded to OS X, will some of that stuff that lets Direct X run on Linux boxes work on his Macs, and are the new G5s powerful enough to let it happen?  If so, who (Firesoul?) is in a position to help hook SVC up???
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2004, 11:53:09 am »
Quote from: Julin Eurthyr on August 19, 2004, 07:17:42 am
Now, if SVC's upgraded to OS X, will some of that stuff that lets Direct X run on Linux boxes work on his Macs, and are the new G5s powerful enough to let it happen?  If so, who (Firesoul?) is in a position to help hook SVC up???

Depends. OSX is based on BSD, so some porting may be necessary. The software that I have seen requires a recompile of the source. Is there a particular piece of software that you are thinking about? On Linux, are they running the app under Wine also when running this DirectX emulation software?

As for the G5, it has more than enough horsepower, and it has great bandwidth. If MS add graphics hardware support to the new version of Virtual PC, then that could be an option. However, MS is mum on what changes they are making.

For all you others, OS X rocks! ;D
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2004, 12:33:09 pm »
Quote from: Julin Eurthyr on August 19, 2004, 07:17:42 am
Actually, I can see where SVC's coming from in all this...

Being around computers most of my life, I've seen Mac people who (like SVC), won't touch a DOS / Windows computer, I've seen people swear OS2 or Linux or any number of other operating systems are better than Microshafts... ;)

Don't worry about it.  Now, if SVC's upgraded to OS X, will some of that stuff that lets Direct X run on Linux boxes work on his Macs, and are the new G5s powerful enough to let it happen?  If so, who (Firesoul?) is in a position to help hook SVC up???

That's not really the point.  A product that is using licensed material from his company and he has never SEEN it, EVER.  What's up with that?  I don't own Rainbow Six or Mario Double Dash but I have certainly SEEN them and know what they look like.  So there isn't one person that he knows, perhaps in his company, who knows a PC and didn't buy the only PC game out there based on their work.  It's a silly proposition by any means that he couldn't have seen it if we wanted to.   The fact is he doesn't want to see it.  What other explanation is there?
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2004, 12:39:24 pm »
<sigh>
You people take this way to seriously.
Heck I think I had the first comment and I don't care if he's played the game or not.
Only thing I've always disliked about SFB is the porrly (imho) background material/ General War material.
and I have no idea if he had anything to do with it.
I'm actually impressed he'd take the time to drop by.

Oh and I also don't like Macs...
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2004, 12:48:42 pm »
Quote from: Julin Eurthyr on August 19, 2004, 07:17:42 am
Don't worry about it.  Now, if SVC's upgraded to OS X, will some of that stuff that lets Direct X run on Linux boxes work on his Macs, and are the new G5s powerful enough to let it happen?  If so, who (Firesoul?) is in a position to help hook SVC up???

SFC wouldn't run as it's not a 386-based instruction set CPU.
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2004, 01:26:27 pm »
I do understand what you all are saying, and yes, it is strange(?) that he's never even looked at SFC. One would have to assume that it was/is a concious decision not to. Eccentric, sour grapes, thinks that PCs are the devil's work... Who knows? Possibly, he just doesn't want to get into giving us his critique of the game.

For me the most important thing was that he doesn't have a single problem or objection to voice about us using SFB based material. There's so much concern being voiced about the legal and licensing issues for the release of the source code. So far, most of it has proven to be little more than melodrama. If there's a commercial venture, then let him know and he'll sit down and talk. For me, that was the big deal. Well, that and it was cool having the "God Father" himself make an appearance.
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Re: That's not really him, is it??
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2004, 04:22:50 pm »
Quote from: Rod ONeal on August 19, 2004, 01:26:27 pm
I do understand what you all are saying, and yes, it is strange(?) that he's never even looked at SFC. One would have to assume that it was/is a concious decision not to. Eccentric, sour grapes, thinks that PCs are the devil's work... Who knows? Possibly, he just doesn't want to get into giving us his critique of the game.

For me the most important thing was that he doesn't have a single problem or objection to voice about us using SFB based material. There's so much concern being voiced about the legal and licensing issues for the release of the source code. So far, most of it has proven to be little more than melodrama. If there's a commercial venture, then let him know and he'll sit down and talk. For me, that was the big deal. Well, that and it was cool having the "God Father" himself make an appearance.


Couldn't have said it better myself, man.  Well rendered.



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