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I can't connect, please help.
« on: August 11, 2004, 02:19:27 pm »
I just reinstalled OP and can't get connected to the dynaverse.  I've changed the wonserversetup.gf file using both the ip address and also with the blackfleet.net addresses, yet I keep getting a firewall message.  what am I missing?

Thanks.
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2004, 02:26:05 pm »
I'm having the same prob. Would someone mind listing the new settings needed again or point us/me to them.

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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2004, 02:26:55 pm »
Name="ServerSetup"

[Settings]
SingleThreaded = 1
CreateCentralSwitch = 0
SinglePlayer = 0
BlockSize             = 10000 // How many micro-seconds to spend on server side stuff before doing page flip
DelayMultiple          = 1.0   // What multiple of time to wait before going back to server side stuff
PacketQueLimit         = 75    // What

[CentralSwitchSetup]
Listen = 0

[WONDirectoryServer]
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release_Test"

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="63.101.60.125:15101"
//0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
//1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
//2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"

[Clients]
ChatClient            = 1
SecurityClient         = 1

[Launch]

Do you have the extra line starting with the 0 and then the slashes like below?

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="63.101.60.125:15101"
//0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
//1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
//2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2004, 02:43:23 pm »
Found my prob.

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="63.101.60.125:15101"
//0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
//1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
//2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"

had:
0="63.101.60.124:15101"

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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2004, 05:30:33 pm »
I also know that the *OLD* Windows XP Firewall can mess it up!   I don't know about the new Windows XP firewall, I think you have to set it manually to allow OP.

You can also Turn if Off, however, it's safer to configure it, or find an alternative to Windows XP Firewall.

I post this becuase that was MY screwup after a looong discussion! I left it on unknowingly!  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2004, 06:46:28 pm »
I also know that the *OLD* Windows XP Firewall can mess it up!   I don't know about the new Windows XP firewall, I think you have to set it manually to allow OP.

You can also Turn if Off, however, it's safer to configure it, or find an alternative to Windows XP Firewall.

I post this becuase that was MY screwup after a looong discussion! I left it on unknowingly!  ::)

Yes, the new settings that come with the XPSP2 allow you to set certain programs to access the internet, I set mine to allow several games, they all work fine even with the XP firewall running.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2004, 07:17:32 pm »
I also know that the *OLD* Windows XP Firewall can mess it up!   I don't know about the new Windows XP firewall, I think you have to set it manually to allow OP.

You can also Turn if Off, however, it's safer to configure it, or find an alternative to Windows XP Firewall.

I post this becuase that was MY screwup after a looong discussion! I left it on unknowingly!  ::)

Yes, the new settings that come with the XPSP2 allow you to set certain programs to access the internet, I set mine to allow several games, they all work fine even with the XP firewall running.

Cool, that's good to know, I haven't tested it yet. Thanks for the info Krueg.

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2004, 08:36:07 pm »
After installing the XP service pack, open your control panel. You will see a few new additions, XP firewall settings, and other security controls, etc. Been playing around with stuff figuring things out.

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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2004, 08:41:38 pm »
After installing the XP service pack, open your control panel. You will see a few new additions, XP firewall settings, and other security controls, etc. Been playing around with stuff figuring things out.

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That's usually how I work things out too, but sometimes the manual is handy.

Yup, I saw that and just turned it all off anyway, lol. I just hadn't tested the programs permissions as that is the only obvious new feature in the firewall. drb just confirmed it works (for D2 use anyway) as well.

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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2004, 09:47:14 am »
I've confirmed that the windows firewall is not on.  In this directory:  C:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\MetaAssets\ServerProfiles\Multiplayer -- I've modified WONServerSetup.gf to read this:

Name="ServerSetup"

[Settings]
SingleThreaded = 1
CreateCentralSwitch = 0
SinglePlayer = 0
BlockSize             = 10000 // How many micro-seconds to spend on server side stuff before doing page flip
DelayMultiple          = 1.0   // What multiple of time to wait before going back to server side stuff
PacketQueLimit         = 75    // What

[CentralSwitchSetup]
Listen = 0

[WONDirectoryServer]
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release_Test"

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="63.101.60.125:15101"
//0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
//1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
//2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"

[Clients]
ChatClient            = 1
SecurityClient         = 1

[Launch]


I get a firewall message when trying to connect to Dynaverse. 
I'm not behind a proxy or anything like that.  As a matter of fact, it worked two weeks ago.  I've just installed a new legimate copy of Windows XP over my *ahem* other one.  Any more ideas?
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2004, 10:07:56 am »
Do you have Norton or McAfee running? (especially firewall components..) Are you running ZoneAlarm?
How are you connected? Who is your ISP? What type of modem? Do you have a router?

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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2004, 10:14:23 am »
Disabled Norton Antivirus.  ZoneAlarm off.  Windows Firewall disconnected.  Cable connection.  Worked fine a couple of weeks ago before new installation of XP Professional.
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2004, 10:16:44 am »
Make sure that your Network Connection isn't bridged.
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2004, 10:19:57 am »
Make sure that your Network Connection isn't bridged.

Where's that located?  Not sure how to check that.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2004, 10:27:44 am »
Go into "Network Connections" from "Control Panel" , then right click on your "LAN or High-Speed Internet" adapter that is currently enabled. If there is an option in the drop dowbn that says "Bridge Connection" then you are not Bridged and all is well. If it says something like "Diable Bridge" or "un-bridge" then select it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2004, 11:19:55 am »
OK then, not bridged.
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2004, 12:53:19 pm »
Just tested, I can connect through GSA, but not connect to Dynaverse.

This is the message I receive:

A firewall has been detected or you are not online.  You are unable to connect.
****************************************************************
Failed to locate the directory servers.  Please check your connection or talk to your System administrator.



Presently, my WONServerSetup.gf file looks like this:

Name="ServerSetup"

[Settings]
SingleThreaded = 1
CreateCentralSwitch = 0
SinglePlayer = 0
BlockSize             = 10000 // How many micro-seconds to spend on server side stuff before doing page flip
DelayMultiple          = 1.0   // What multiple of time to wait before going back to server side stuff
PacketQueLimit         = 75    // What

[CentralSwitchSetup]
Listen = 0

[WONDirectoryServer]
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release_Test"

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="sfc2.west.blackfleet.net:15101"
1="sfc2.central.blackfleet.net:15101"
2="sfc2.east.blackfleet.net:15101"




[Clients]
ChatClient            = 1
SecurityClient         = 1

[Launch]



I've also tried it like this:

Name="ServerSetup"

[Settings]
SingleThreaded = 1
CreateCentralSwitch = 0
SinglePlayer = 0
BlockSize             = 10000 // How many micro-seconds to spend on server side stuff before doing page flip
DelayMultiple          = 1.0   // What multiple of time to wait before going back to server side stuff
PacketQueLimit         = 75    // What

[CentralSwitchSetup]
Listen = 0

[WONDirectoryServer]
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release_Test"

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="63.101.60.125:15101"
//0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
//1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
//2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"

[Clients]
ChatClient            = 1
SecurityClient         = 1

[Launch]
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2004, 01:17:02 pm »
Can you ping 63.101.60.125 ?
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2004, 01:27:10 pm »
Yes.  0 packet loss.  Average ping time of 42ms.
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2004, 09:42:13 pm »
bumpity
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2004, 10:32:03 pm »
Do you know what programs you have running in the backround?  A list of them would be helpfull.

You can try the following:

1) Press Ctrl-Alt-Delete
2) Goto the 'Processes' Tab
3) You should see a list of programs that are running in the computer.

If possible, type a list of those programs running for us to see what else may be happening.

If your firewall was not previsously On, Turn it On then back Off.  Mabey that'll reset somethin.

Also, you didn't answer (or I didn't see it) the question..
Do you have a router?
What is your ISP?

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2004, 10:34:54 pm »
Now that you're getting out to Gamespy (tells me the router's set up correctly), try using the setup file described in the sticky post at top of the forum again...

I don't know if the "blackfleet" stuff works, but I know the actual IP posted above is 100% functional, as that's what I got going on my system...

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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2004, 10:39:01 pm »
If you ping the 'blackfleet stuff' it should resolve to the same IP.

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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2004, 12:07:19 am »
I'm not using a router.  Direct cable connection.  I'll try the activate the firewall then deactivate it thing. **edit:  I attempted to turn the firewall on and got this message.  "An error occurred while Internet connection sharing was being enabled.  The dependency services or group failed to start."  This doesn't make sense to me because I don't use Internet connection sharing.

List of processes:

Mediadet.exe
rundll32.exe
ccApp.exe
CTNotify.exe
explorer.exe
ccEvtMgr.exe
spoolsv.exe
svchost.exe
"
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taskmgr.exe
svchost.exe
lsass.exe
services.exe
winlogon.exe
csrss.exe
smss.exe
nvsvc32.exe
navapsvc.exe
OSA.exe
FINDFAST.exe
ctfmon.exe
msmsgs.exe
jusched.exe
system
system Idle Process
« Last Edit: August 13, 2004, 12:19:11 am by The_Joker »
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2004, 03:12:18 am »
You may not use ICS but it would appear to be running. Remove it if you can, because it will be the problem since it acts as a router and forwards or blocks ports like a hardware router.

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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2004, 05:53:45 am »
I'm not using a router.  Direct cable connection.  I'll try the activate the firewall then deactivate it thing. **edit:  I attempted to turn the firewall on and got this message.  "An error occurred while Internet connection sharing was being enabled.  The dependency services or group failed to start."  This doesn't make sense to me because I don't use Internet connection sharing.

List of processes:

Mediadet.exe
rundll32.exe
ccApp.exe
CTNotify.exe
explorer.exe
ccEvtMgr.exe
spoolsv.exe
svchost.exe
"
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taskmgr.exe
svchost.exe
lsass.exe
services.exe
winlogon.exe
csrss.exe
smss.exe
nvsvc32.exe
navapsvc.exe
OSA.exe
FINDFAST.exe
ctfmon.exe
msmsgs.exe
jusched.exe
system
system Idle Process

The windows firewall does use a similar virtual adapter setup as ICS, thus the error that seems unrelated. Now why doesn't it start? (not that you really want it to...) Are you using an ethernet card, an on-board ethernet adapter or USB connection to your cable modem?

Also, Norton is still running. (navapsvc.exe, ccEvtMgr.exe) Don't just end the processes, but rather exit the application as intended (control panel or services).

Also you probably want to exit MSN messenger while changing network settings (msmsgs.exe). Sign off and exit.

Though not related, OSA.exe and FINDFAST.exe can go, findfast should be disabled (control panel?) and removed from the office installation (unless you really like it and use it alot - otherwise just deadwood) OSA is just the flag icon shortcut for Office Startup in the Startup menu (I just move it elsewhere - more deadwood). You could also stand to disable some of the Creative Labs stuff if you don't really use it.


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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2004, 10:22:43 am »
OK...now I'm ticked.  Here is my NEW list of running processes:

nvsvc32.exe
ctfmon.exe
Mediadet.exe
jusched.exe
rundll32.exe
CTNotify.exe
explorer.exe
spoolsv.exe
svchost.exe
svchost.exe
lsass.exe
services.exe
winlogon.exe
csrss.exe
smss.exe
taskmgr.exe
IEXPLORE.EXE
System
System Idle Process


Here is a copy of my WONServerSetup.gf:

path: C:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\MetaAssets\ServerProfiles\Multiplayer

Name="ServerSetup"

[Settings]
SingleThreaded = 1
CreateCentralSwitch = 0
SinglePlayer = 0
BlockSize             = 10000 // How many micro-seconds to spend on server side stuff before doing page flip
DelayMultiple          = 1.0   // What multiple of time to wait before going back to server side stuff
PacketQueLimit         = 75    // What

[CentralSwitchSetup]
Listen = 0

[WONDirectoryServer]
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release_Test"

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="63.101.60.125:15101"
//0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
//1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
//2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"

[Clients]
ChatClient            = 1
SecurityClient         = 1

[Launch]


Does anyone happen to see anything else?

BTW, I found the problem with why I xcouldn't start the firewall.  It was a service I already had disabled causing the problem.
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2004, 02:14:30 pm »
Just for poo poos and giggles, I tried a fresh install...still no joy.    ???
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2004, 02:16:06 pm »
BTW, I found the problem with why I xcouldn't start the firewall.  It was a service I already had disabled causing the problem.

What service did you disable?

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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2004, 02:22:23 pm »
Can't remeber, now.  I re-enabled it, turned on the firewall, turned it back off, tried OP....didn't work.  Disabled it again.  Think it may have been Indexing.
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2004, 09:47:27 pm »
Are there any other services you played with?

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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2004, 10:22:09 pm »
Yeah.  Using Black Viper's web page.  At any rate, I'm going to go back to windows default and start experimenting from there.  I don't think I disabled anyting that would cause a problem, but at this point, I'm willing to try to find out.
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2004, 02:11:49 am »
Well, I'm about to give up.

Last ditch effort.

The following services are currently disabled:

Alerter
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
ClipBook
COM+ Event System
COM+ System Application
Creative Service for CDROM Access
Error Reporting Service
Fast User Switching Compatibility
Indexing Service
Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Messenger
NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing
Network DDE
Network DDE DSDM
PCTEL Speaker Phone
Performance Logs and Alerts
Portable Media Serial Number
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
Remote Registry
Routing and Remote Access
Secondary Logon
Security Accounts Manager
Smart Card
Smart Card Helper
Symantec Event Manager
System Restore Service
Telnet
Terminal Services
Uninterruptible Power Supply
Universal Plug and Play Device Host
Windows Time
Wireless Zero Configuration
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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2004, 02:53:14 am »
I'm wondering how you have disabled the ICS service if it wasn't set up in the first place. If ICS was set up and then disabled through the admin tools and not removed normally you may still have problems.

When you log on to GSA, can you create your own room and host OP games?

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2004, 08:06:59 am »
Well, I'm about to give up.

Last ditch effort.

The following services are currently disabled:

Alerter
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
ClipBook
COM+ Event System
COM+ System Application
Creative Service for CDROM Access
Error Reporting Service
Fast User Switching Compatibility
Indexing Service
Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Messenger
NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing
Network DDE
Network DDE DSDM
PCTEL Speaker Phone
Performance Logs and Alerts
Portable Media Serial Number
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
Remote Registry
Routing and Remote Access
Secondary Logon
Security Accounts Manager
Smart Card
Smart Card Helper
Symantec Event Manager
System Restore Service
Telnet
Terminal Services
Uninterruptible Power Supply
Universal Plug and Play Device Host
Windows Time
Wireless Zero Configuration


Holy neutered windows Batman!!!  :o

I only have 7 services disabled, the only one I disabled myself was the messenger service:

Alerter
ClipBook
Human Interface Device Access
Messenger
Network DDE
Network DDE DSDM
Routing and Remote Access


What is this "Black Viper's web page"?? What are his qualifications to control your windows installation?

I'd say at this point that you should reinstall windows and XP SP2, install OP (before anything else), get it working, then install or disable stuff one item at a time (if you must) and test OP after disabling each item. (though I would only disable the messenger service).

Cleaven has a good point about ICS there too.

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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2004, 09:46:33 am »
Black Viper is a guy that decided to go through the Windows XP Services and decide what services were nessesary to run. 

I saw this, and decided that for the gain, the services were better left alone.  Several he had no idea what they did!  Things may be very screwed up now.  With all the stuff messsing up, I'm sure Windows is now confused somehow

Joker I kinda suggest another install of XP.   :'(  This time leave XP as it is.  ONLY service I change is the Messenger service.  Disable that, REST leave alone.  Performance gain is minor, at least with the hardware I have, and my hardware is 2 years old.

1) Install Windows Updates (SP2)
2) Intsall Norton AV
3) Install OP
4) Update OP
4) Edit the file for Dyna IP
5) Make Sure Windows Firewall is OFF first time you run OP. If OP works, you have option to configure it later.
6) Open OP --See if you can hit Dyna.

ZoneAlarm I'd say leave out, as a troubleshooting measure for now.  When we get OP working, you can experiment with it.  I know for a fact though, some people do not like ZonAlarm at all.

Install nothing else, change no settings other than those mentioned.

Lets take this 1 step at a time.

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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2004, 09:49:27 am »
 :lol:  I just realized Bonk said to do pretty much the same thing! Ha!

Well there you got it from 2 people Joker. :D

'Cept for this:  Blck Viper's settings are riskey, and provide LITTLE performance gain.  Some services he admits to not understanding the purpose of!

Personally, I say leave all accept Messenger service. 
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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2004, 10:29:52 am »
Why re-install?  You don't think I'm dumb enough not to know what I personally turned off, do you?  I'll just re-enable.  I personally disabled the stuff.  I got the web page from TechTV.  I couldn't connect to Dyna before I started messing around with the Windows install.  Also, the only thing not working is OP.  America's Army, Diablo2, BF Vietnam, BF1942, Ghost Recon, Call of Duty, Tiger Woods 2003, Norton, Zone Alarm, and the entire Microsoft Office suite work just fine. 

Perhaps I'll reinstall from scratch later, but, frankly its not an option until at least Monday.  I'm also not sure if it is worth it to get one game working.
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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2004, 01:16:23 pm »
Well, I'm gonna try a fresh windows install.  Just ticks me off cause I did a fresh windows install 2 weeks ago.
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2004, 03:56:50 pm »
Well, I can certainly say I understand your frustration...

Been through it many times....  :(

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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2004, 04:46:18 pm »
Why re-install?  You don't think I'm dumb enough not to know what I personally turned off, do you?  I'll just re-enable.  I personally disabled the stuff.  I got the web page from TechTV.  I couldn't connect to Dyna before I started messing around with the Windows install.  Also, the only thing not working is OP.  America's Army, Diablo2, BF Vietnam, BF1942, Ghost Recon, Call of Duty, Tiger Woods 2003, Norton, Zone Alarm, and the entire Microsoft Office suite work just fine. 

Perhaps I'll reinstall from scratch later, but, frankly its not an option until at least Monday.  I'm also not sure if it is worth it to get one game working.

Unfortunately none, not a single one, nada, not any of the programs you listed connect for muliplayer in the same way as OP. The best comparison you can make is if you can do what I said to try in GSA. I'm not going to bet the sheep station, but I will put a six-pack down and say that you've screwed up ICS.

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2004, 10:07:36 pm »
Well, I've got a fresh install now.  With SP2.  I'll try it out in a bit.
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2004, 11:07:51 pm »
Well, I did the following:

1) Install Windows Updates (SP2)
2) skipped Norton AV
3) Install OP
4) Update OP
4) Edit the file for Dyna IP
5) Make Sure Windows Firewall is OFF first time you run OP. If OP works, you have option to configure it later.
6) Open OP --See if you can hit Dyna.


Tried both ways of editing the WONServerSetup.gf file.

Nothing.


But, yes, I can host and create rooms in GSA.  Only Dyna isn't working correctly.
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2004, 11:27:52 pm »
So you reformatted and started from scratch?

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2004, 11:32:01 pm »
yep


Only thing currently on my HD is Windows XP SP2 (after a clean format) and Orion Pirates 2.5.5.2 with OPPlus 3.3 and EZini.
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2004, 11:32:21 pm »
Well, I did the following:

1) Install Windows Updates (SP2)
2) skipped Norton AV
3) Install OP
4) Update OP
4) Edit the file for Dyna IP
5) Make Sure Windows Firewall is OFF first time you run OP. If OP works, you have option to configure it later.
6) Open OP --See if you can hit Dyna.


Tried both ways of editing the WONServerSetup.gf file.

Nothing.


But, yes, I can host and create rooms in GSA.  Only Dyna isn't working correctly.



OK, do this:

1)Type out the error in the Dyna right now for us here.
2) Edit the ip file to have the WRONG ip.
3) Go in OP and see what error you get now. They should be Different.  Type it here


One error type means no comunication from Directory Server other error means no internet communication. Let narrow this down now.

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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2004, 11:45:01 pm »
I have no more idea's except for simple errors like having the 2525 patch instead of the 2552.

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2004, 11:54:39 pm »
OK.....

First I used this File:

Name="ServerSetup"

[Settings]
SingleThreaded = 1
CreateCentralSwitch = 0
SinglePlayer = 0
BlockSize             = 10000 // How many micro-seconds to spend on server side stuff before doing page flip
DelayMultiple          = 1.0   // What multiple of time to wait before going back to server side stuff
PacketQueLimit         = 75    // What

[CentralSwitchSetup]
Listen = 0

[WONDirectoryServer]
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release_Test"

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="63.101.60.125:15101"
//0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
//1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
//2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"


[Clients]
ChatClient            = 1
SecurityClient         = 1

[Launch]


and I got this message:

A firewall has been detected or you are not online.
=================================================================
Failed to locate the directory servers.  Please check your connection or talk to your System Administrator.
=================================================================
Gamespy patch check complete.
=================================================================
Getting the messages of the day...
=================================================================
Checking for a patch...
=================================================================
Welcome to online Dynaverse II.
=================================================================


So then I tried this:  (note its the original file)

Name="ServerSetup"

[Settings]
SingleThreaded = 1
CreateCentralSwitch = 0
SinglePlayer = 0
BlockSize             = 10000 // How many micro-seconds to spend on server side stuff before doing page flip
DelayMultiple          = 1.0   // What multiple of time to wait before going back to server side stuff
PacketQueLimit         = 75    // What

[CentralSwitchSetup]
Listen = 0

[WONDirectoryServer]
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release"
//ServerPath = "/StarFleetCommand2/Game/Release_Test"

[WONDirectoryServer/Addresses]
0="sfc2.west.won.net:15101"
1="sfc2.central.won.net:15101"
2="sfc2.east.won.net:15101"

[Clients]
ChatClient            = 1
SecurityClient         = 1

[Launch]


And.....it worked.
My question is.....WTF?????

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« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2004, 11:56:59 pm »
 :screwloose: :rofl: :screwloose: :rofl: :screwloose: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :help: :smackhead:

Thats just wierd...  Do you see all the games?

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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2004, 11:59:19 pm »
I see the test GW3 server,  A GFL server and two others.

I don't have the necessary scripts and or shiplists for the test server or one of the others, but I had no problem logging onto the GFL server.
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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2004, 12:02:44 am »
Wellllll, that rediculous.  Only explination I have is that origional servers are running or something, or are forwarding to new ones.

Since it works, leave it! lol

Now pop in AV, Firewall and do whatever you want.  But you know now that your OP is working :)

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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2004, 12:03:16 am »
But .... it can't work with the old Taldren address.

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.

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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2004, 12:06:14 am »
And yet......


I'm not going to look a gift Romulan in the ears, personally.
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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2004, 12:07:55 am »
Ping it, it resolve to an 208.57.228.3.

Nothing close to Dynaverse IP.

The IP is alive.  I could play with it, and see whats up, but I'm lazy and not going to :P

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Re: I can't connect, please help.
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2004, 12:08:44 am »
I see the test GW3 server,  A GFL server and two others.

I don't have the necessary scripts and or shiplists for the test server or one of the others, but I had no problem logging onto the GFL server.

KEWL! Ya made it then! See threads here to download the GW 3 test missions and shiplist, nice handy installer with uninstaller inculed. However, in the next day or 2 the installer will change because of some adjusting, you may wish to watch these forums for it instead.
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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2004, 12:10:32 am »
I see the test GW3 server,  A GFL server and two others.

I don't have the necessary scripts and or shiplists for the test server or one of the others, but I had no problem logging onto the GFL server.

KEWL! Ya made it then! See threads here to download the GW 3 test missions and shiplist, nice handy installer with uninstaller inculed. However, in the next day or 2 the installer will change because of some adjusting, you may wish to watch these forums for it instead.

I was just looking for info about GW3, I'm waiting for the thing to start :D

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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2004, 12:14:55 am »
Ack, forgot link, my bad..here ya go. Using these General forums for info and downloads, apply there for the General War HQ for your side preference (either Coalition*Klingon* or Alliance *Fed and Mirak*) there also for OPs orders and other info.

http://bozobits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5827
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« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2004, 12:17:08 am »
Oh, and also, here is the Official rules page for GW3, make sure to read them, please.

http://mkroll.asta.chicago.il.us/
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« Reply #58 on: August 15, 2004, 12:28:07 am »
Maychance its because my IP starts with 208?
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« Reply #59 on: August 15, 2004, 12:41:50 am »
Um..if you can get to the point that you can see the servers you mentioned, I think you've got it right, sir.
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« Reply #60 on: August 15, 2004, 01:02:09 am »
Oh...yeah, yeah.  I understand that.  I'm just trying to figure out why mine works with the original Taldren WONServerNet.gf file.  LOL
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« Reply #61 on: August 15, 2004, 01:34:45 am »
Oh...yeah, yeah.  I understand that.  I'm just trying to figure out why mine works with the original Taldren WONServerNet.gf file.  LOL

Any minute now reality will snap back into place, and you will be stuck again.

I'm wondering if in the process of editing and making backups you've created multiple config files. And what you think is being used isn't.

Not sure I can be bothered, but as you are the Doc, can you run an AI standard patrol in 2 minutes in a KRC? If so, there is no problem and I am utterly wrong. If you cannot, then the KRC is a worse ship for AI missions than ones I know can.