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WWII PT Boat 
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 WWII PT BOAT 728

The Last Authentic WWII PT Boat in Military Configuration that is USCG Certified in the world.

Built: August 10, 1945  Annapolis Ship Yard
Lenght: 71'6"
Beam: 19'6"
Draft: 5'
Speed: 26 knots
Engines: 2 TI-871 Detroit Diesels
Fuel: 1,000 gallons,  4 - 250 Gal. tanks center tank room
55 Gross Tons
USCG Certified 49 Passengers
USCG safety equipment and electronics
Documentation # 263958
PT 728 has been featured on the History Channel's Great Ship's Series, Boating Magazine and several movies. We have been center stage for the McDonald's Air and Sea Show. She is listed as the last PT Boat afloat in military configuration in many national articles and can be found on-line quite easily.

The first pictures show her as a "Big Boy Toy" with her hardwood decks exposed. This is how I ran her for several years. The decks have been covered with fiberglass cloth and painted as a non-skid for tourist. It can be removed. The pictures show it all. Remove the safety rails and she is ready to take on anyone.

Any pictures with tourist on board are from our Key West History Cruise business which goes with the boat. Last year we did over 260K in sales and have a cruise ship agreement with Royal Caribbean and Celebrity Cruise Lines. I can provide more info for interested parties.This is a turnkey business and can be taken over by anyone who wishes to move to Key West or another port Royal Caribbean or Celebrity visit. The 1 1/2 hour history cruise is enjoyable and informative. We run two cruises a day and the return on your investment would be high.


 
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 PT 728 was Coast Guard Certified as a new vessel in July 2002. She recently passed her annual hull inspection on June 19, 2004. That speaks for itself.

As a tourist vessel her decks need to painted quite often. Grey is easy. The engines are a little tired. They have 3250 hrs SMOH. They are work horses and do run fine. I had the heads and injectors done on both engines in the last 6 months. Compression is good. The deck is built so that the engines can be easily removed or worked on. When you fire them up, believe me, everyone notices.

The boat is 59 years old and needs TLC; however, 10 years of restoration and over 600K have preserved living history. She is a beauty and fun to drive on an attack run!

As on our sister PTs, which are all in museums, our weapons and torpedo tubes are reproductions and non-firing or static display. You cannot start a war! Just Have Fun!

As you can see below decks is quite spartan but can be easily converted into something nice. The frames are 1' apart and she is quite rugged.

Any questions? Call Bill Bohmfalk at 305-849-3454.


 
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 5% deposit in 5 days from close of auction and the balance due in 30 days or as soon as ready to close. The boat is for sale, as is, where is, in Key West, Florida. We can deliver! The title will only take days to clear.

 
 

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[J. Carney]

Only if she includes the 4 .50 cals, the 40mm in the rear and all four tubes loaded with warshots.

$500,000? They didn't cost that much NEW!!!

[Brush Wolf]

26 knots, Diesels? We don't want no stinking diesels. Now if you could find three running Packards then this baby would scoot. 

[J. Carney]

26 knots, Diesels? We don't want no stinking diesels. Now if you could find three running Packards then this baby would scoot. 

LOL... yep.What was a flank bell on those 5 gallon to a mile Packards? Something like 36 knots?

[Brush Wolf]

26 knots, Diesels? We don't want no stinking diesels. Now if you could find three running Packards then this baby would scoot. 

LOL... yep.What was a flank bell on those 5 gallon to a mile Packards? Something like 36 knots?

With a clean hull, fresh engines, and good gas you could get near 50. With the environment in the South Pacific where most served and the extremely common situation of having to run the engines well beyond their hour limits 30 was considered to be good.

[J. Carney]

With a clean hull, fresh engines, and good gas you could get near 50. With the environment in the South Pacific where most served and the extremely common situation of having to run the engines well beyond their hour limits 30 was considered to be good.

And remind me why wedon't still build a few of these to keep handy for interdiction on the Gulf, especially since we could maintenance them better and arm them with more effective weapons?

Sounds like you couldn't build a better hull!

[Brush Wolf]

With a clean hull, fresh engines, and good gas you could get near 50. With the environment in the South Pacific where most served and the extremely common situation of having to run the engines well beyond their hour limits 30 was considered to be good.

And remind me why wedon't still build a few of these to keep handy for interdiction on the Gulf, especially since we could maintenance them better and arm them with more effective weapons?

Sounds like you couldn't build a better hull!

Because they are not CVN's. The shallow water/brown water has always been given the short end of the stick. As far as more effective weapons go you really can't do much better than .50 cals and modern versions of the 20 and 40mm weapons that they were armed with in WWII.

[The Postman]

Also If I recall, it was 3 engines driving 2 props. I also read where various crews used to scrounge for extra weapons. One boat had a 75mm anti tank gun sitting on deck.

[J. Carney]

With a clean hull, fresh engines, and good gas you could get near 50. With the environment in the South Pacific where most served and the extremely common situation of having to run the engines well beyond their hour limits 30 was considered to be good.

And remind me why we don't still build a few of these to keep handy for interdiction on the Gulf, especially since we could maintenance them better and arm them with more effective weapons?

Sounds like you couldn't build a better hull!

Because they are not CVN's. The shallow water/brown water has always been given the short end of the stick. As far as more effective weapons go you really can't do much better than .50 cals and modern versions of the 20 and 40mm weapons that they were armed with in WWII.

Really?

I was suggesting them for the Coasties, mostly, but... If I wanted to make a jam-up little perimeter guard:

Old PT boat hull style, fiberglass reinforced with kevlar and aluminum.

Replace the 4 Mk-10 torps with 8 Hellfires and 2 Mk-46 ASW torps or a 25mm Bushmaster from a Bradley up there.

Keep the .50 Cals, and add a Stinger mount on the rear deck.

Replace those old Packards with a pair of CAT marine diesels with good gears.

Sure, they would be next to useless at sea because of their small size and short range, but you stick a half a dozen of these in our fleet anchorages in places like Kuwait and the bad guys would have something really nasty to think about facing if they wanted to play any Jihad games.

Plus, you could give 15 or 20 to the Coasties in the Gulf and the Carribean to show those guys trying to bring dope in by sea that you mean business enough to put a hole in that 10,000 ton tramp steamer that they are using to smuggle their stuff.


Everything has a place- this is something that our 'bigger is better' Navy has forgotten.

[Brush Wolf]

Everything has a place- this is something that our 'bigger is better' Navy has forgotten.

This is something that navies have been doing since the first biremes met in battle. Until there is a proven and usually desperate need for certain types of vessels they are totally forgoten.

[J. Carney]

Everything has a place- this is something that our 'bigger is better' Navy has forgotten.

This is something that navies have been doing since the first biremes met in battle. Until there is a proven and usually desperate need for certain types of vessels they are totally forgoten.

Well, the U.S.S. Cole proved that we needed to up-gun our warships for the totally forgotten 'small boat threat' that stratiogest said was over after the invention of the cruise missile.

I think it also was a wake-up call that we need to rethink the usefulness of our own Navy deploying small boat combatants like the partol boat.

Perhaps we should even think about making a class of 'retro' escort destroyers that concentrate on speed and close range combat ability- you could mount Harpoons on them in external racks like we put on the Iowa's to give them long-range anti-ship punch, but their primairy armament would be something on the order of fore-and-aft twin 5" mounts (man-loaded, not automatic) and, say, 4 twin 40mm mounts on either side.

You could even earmark a couple of those for the Coasties, too.

[Chris SI]

There are several WWII types, the photo looks like an Elco series, which had three screws, not two.

The boat would have two twin .50 machine guns, and a 20mm (NOT 40mm Carney) AA gun, and four mk 12 Torpedos.

[J. Carney]

There are several WWII types, the photo looks like an Elco series, which had three screws, not two.

The boat would have two twin .50 machine guns, and a 20mm (NOT 40mm Carney) AA gun, and four mk 12 Torpedos.

Sorry... my bad. I also called the fish Mk-10's, which they might have been early on, but you are right in that the Mk-12's replaced them.

[Chris SI]

I had four PT boats when I was a kid, two 109s (the seond changed to 108) a PT 267, all Elco boats, and one higgens boat (like the one in McHale's navy), all Revel 1/72 scale model kits.

They saw plenty of action back in the old days.

[KnightAdvancer]

Perhaps we should even think about making a class of 'retro' escort destroyers that concentrate on speed and close range combat ability- you could mount Harpoons on them in external racks like we put on the Iowa's to give them long-range anti-ship punch, but their primairy armament would be something on the order of fore-and-aft twin 5" mounts (man-loaded, not automatic) and, say, 4 twin 40mm mounts on either side.

Like the, uh, Littoral Combat Ship? http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/lcs.htm

[J. Carney]

Nah, I mean more like the old Fletcher-class than the LCS. Thak a small, lightweight (half the size of an Arleigh Burke) hull and put in a pair of jet engines like the Burke, add in the Harpoon racks from the Iowa BB's and replace the old AA guns with some CIWS pods and short-range SAM's for self defense.

I'm not suggesting a multi-purpose design, I'm suggesting a destroyer as it was originally concieved- as an small, fast attack-boat killer. They wouldbe limited in depoloyment, but they would be cheap enough to make a maybe 10 to be watchdogs for overseas ports.