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Offline Lepton

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Fed PFs on GW3
« on: August 06, 2004, 07:02:26 pm »
What ships am I likely to find fed PFs on?  I was flying a HWD1 that seemed to have a fighter bay.  I selected a PFL instead.  Tried to launch them.  I see nothing. I am assuming this ship is not supposed to have PFs on it.  Is that true??
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2004, 07:11:15 pm »
Lepton, this is going to be a "test" server for PFs for Fred, Klink and Mirak. While they show up for ANY ship that has fighters, they are ONLY useable by the NPF for the Fed, and the Klinks and Mirak have similiar new PF tenders. They are light cruisers. For F-NPF, click on CL's, then click BACK one (to the left) that will get you the NPF.

If they work out on this server without too much yelling/screaming, larger CA hull tenders will be put in, and I assume casual pfs as well.

F-DNH with 4 PF's? Priceless.

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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2004, 07:57:22 pm »
Thats because the PFs are donated, they will appear  in the list  for all carriers but can only be loaded by PFTs. Nature of the game  - can't have PFs and fighters on one ship, just one or the other. (Fighters on carriers and PFs on PFTs only - you just need to know the PF names)

I know the NPF will carry  PFs as I destroyed Kroma's yesterday as he was snoozing..  ;D
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2004, 08:15:49 pm »
Those fed PFLs are killlers.  Two drone racks, a photon, AMD, and some phasers.  Four of those babies are nutty.  It's like having a whole other ship with you or practically unlimited scatterpacks so to speak.  Are the mirak PFs as nasty?   These make lyran PFs looks like a joke.
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2004, 08:36:40 pm »
Not sure , I'd have to look at the shiplist to compare 'em all (you'll find them all at the top of the list donated by the gorn).  Doesn't much matter  about the lyrans for comparison though as they're not in this server.

Kroma's weren't so nasty yesterday, pretty ineffective once the PFT gets popped,  they all blow up together nice n pretty like... <snicker..>
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2004, 09:31:44 pm »
F-NPF is the ONLY PF tender for the Fed.

D5P is the only PF tender for the Klinks

MPF is the only PF Tender for the Kzin (this ship blows chunks)

PF CnC permits only 1 PF Leader per flotila.

This is a pilot program, we reserve the right to yank them if they get out of control.
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2004, 10:03:18 pm »
Drones and AMD on PFs - and they said L-PFE were cheesy...
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2004, 10:08:22 pm »
Quote from: AJTK on August 06, 2004, 07:11:15 pm


F-DNH with 4 PF's? Priceless.



And something you will never see on any server that I have anything to do with :P
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2004, 11:36:53 pm »
Quote from: FPF-DieHard on August 06, 2004, 09:31:44 pm
F-NPF is the ONLY PF tender for the Fed.

D5P is the only PF tender for the Klinks

MPF is the only PF Tender for the Kzin (this ship blows chunks)

PF CnC permits only 1 PF Leader per flotila.

This is a pilot program, we reserve the right to yank them if they get out of control.
Isn't that "One PFL OR PFE(type) per flotila? And what about the other varients? How do they affect the CnC?
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2004, 07:37:33 am »
Come on LK,  due to my recent "exchange student" situation with the gr0n, I got a SWEET deal on gr0n PFLd's, really CHEAP!

Whats wrong with a PF with 2(?) P-1, 2 Pl-F and 2 Pl-D?   :rofl:
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2004, 07:38:10 am »
Quote from: FPF-DieHard on August 06, 2004, 10:08:22 pm
Quote from: AJTK on August 06, 2004, 07:11:15 pm


F-DNH with 4 PF's? Priceless.



And something you will never see on any server that I have anything to do with :P

Freakin Andorian killjoy bitch! ;)
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2004, 08:39:19 am »
Quote from: AJTK on August 07, 2004, 07:37:33 am
Come on LK,  due to my recent "exchange student" situation with the gr0n, I got a SWEET deal on gr0n PFLd's, really CHEAP!

Whats wrong with a PF with 2(?) P-1, 2 Pl-F and 2 Pl-D?   :rofl:

Just re-checked the rules page (which is STILL not updated) and it does indeed list the fighter CnC as PFL OR PFE, not both.
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2004, 09:41:02 am »
The Kzinti (excuse me, MIRAK) MPF sure does suck.  To add insult to injury, the PP cost of the Mirak PF is higher than that of the PFL, 49 vs. 44 :)
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2004, 11:06:21 am »
So you can have either ONE PFL or one PFE? Thats weird, isnt it?

SFB would have a full flotilla (of 6 pfs) with one leader, one scout, one pfe and the rest standards)

OFW, Ill fly whatever is legal.

As much as the PFT's SUCK, I doubt they will be too widely used anyway.
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2004, 11:12:05 am »
The PFE is a Taldren invention. I'm talking about the uber, overgunned variants like the L-PFE, not an anti-ftr/drone design, which SFB does have.
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2004, 11:30:17 am »
Quote from: FPF-DieHard on August 06, 2004, 10:08:22 pm
Quote from: AJTK on August 06, 2004, 07:11:15 pm


F-DNH with 4 PF's? Priceless.



And something you will never see on any server that I have anything to do with :P


...or any server I'm likely to play on.


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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2004, 11:47:12 am »
Quote from: Rod ONeal on August 07, 2004, 11:12:05 am
The PFE is a Taldren invention. I'm talking about the uber, overgunned variants like the L-PFE, not an anti-ftr/drone design, which SFB does have.

LOL

How exactly is the L-PFE "uber" or "overgunned" compared to
G-PFL
G-PFdL
G-PF+
R-STH L
R-STH B
F T-B
F T-D
F T-DL
F T-PL
K G1BL
K G1DL
K G1N
K G1B


And I'd argue and win that a squadron of AI L-PFE's would lose to an AI Squadron of Kzinti drones pf's.

The PFE is only decent if you jump in it and control it yourself.
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2004, 12:05:22 pm »
I base my comment about the L-PFE on comparing it with full size FF's that it outguns. 4x dizzies and an ESG on a size-class 5 ship. The SFB L-PFL only has 2x dizzies and no ESG (not allowed on a size-class 5 ship). I didn't mean that there aren't other uber/overgunned PF's. I wan't necessarily singling the L-PFE out, just holding it up as an example.

Besides, the gist of my post is that the L-PFE is a leader variant. That's why you can't have an PFL and an PFE in the same flotilla. An SFB escort variant replaces offensive weapons with defensive ones and isn't considered towards the leader limit. Sorry, I didn't word it very well.

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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2004, 12:09:30 pm »
Quote from: Rod ONeal on August 07, 2004, 12:05:22 pm
I base my comment about the L-PFE on comparing it with full size FF's that it outguns. 4x dizzies and an ESG on a size-class 5 ship. The SFB L-PFL only has 2x dizzies and no ESG (not allowed on a size-class 5 ship). I didn't mean that there aren't other uber/overgunned PF's. I wan't necessarily singling the L-PFE out, just holding it up as an example.

Besides, the gist of my post is that the L-PFE is a leader variant. That's why you can't have an PFL and an PFE in the same flotilla. An SFB escort variant replaces offensive weapons with defensive ones and isn't considered towards the leader limit. Sorry, I didn't word it very well.



NP at all, and I (suppose in theory) I should apolgize as well.
I just get all irritated that Lyran PF's (apparently) use to have PH1's and now they don't.
Of course I also think we should get a leader variant with Pld 's so my opinion isn't always worth alot...  ;D
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Re: Fed PFs on GW3
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2004, 12:10:43 pm »
Quote from: FPF-DieHard on August 06, 2004, 09:31:44 pm
F-NPF is the ONLY PF tender for the Fed.

D5P is the only PF tender for the Klinks

MPF is the only PF Tender for the Kzin (this ship blows chunks)

PF CnC permits only 1 PF Leader per flotila.

This is a pilot program, we reserve the right to yank them if they get out of control.

Are these in the OP+3.4 list, or added someplace else, I can't seem to find the Kzin one.
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