Topic: Azel's Submission for a Presidential Ship. (Read 10694 times)

FoaS_XC · « **on:** August 03, 2004, 08:02:19 am »

I kinda like it

any modellers up for doing it?

markyd · « **Reply #1 on:** August 03, 2004, 08:03:51 am »

I like the look of that.....

Infact... I love the look of that

Kaenyne · « **Reply #2 on:** August 03, 2004, 10:58:16 am »

Someone needs to model this concept?it's glorious. Did I mention someone needs to model this ship?

Core · « **Reply #3 on:** August 03, 2004, 12:26:33 pm »

OM*G what ... no wher ... ok

Centurus · « **Reply #4 on:** August 03, 2004, 01:09:14 pm »

*raises an eyebrow* It's an interesting and unique design. Looks like a cross between a Galaxy and something out of Star Wars. It could work.

FoaS_XC · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2004, 03:16:47 pm »

Azel/Atolm is well known for doing unique designs. Thats why we love him.

Chris Johnson · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2004, 05:16:59 pm »

I still think the only practical Starships that could be used as a "Presidential ship" (other than whatever ship he boards in) would be a Galaxy-class starship or similar-to but not really one, like maybe an Intrepid or Cheyenne class if something smaller is needed and not a Galaxy or Nebula-class (one modified for luxury). But I believe a Galaxy-class is better than a Sovereign or a ship in Q's alterbate reality such as the Olympic. A Galaxy-class is most symbolic for a Federation President's needs from the 2360s to whenever it retires.

However, that design is nice for a 25th-century Federation Starship based on the Galaxy-class.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #7 on:** August 03, 2004, 07:18:22 pm »

Quote from: Chris Johnson on August 03, 2004, 05:16:59 pm

I still think the only practical Starships that could be used as a "Presidential ship" (other than whatever ship he boards in) would be a Galaxy-class starship or similar-to but not really one, like maybe an Intrepid or Cheyenne class if something smaller is needed and not a Galaxy or Nebula-class (one modified for luxury). But I believe a Galaxy-class is better than a Sovereign or a ship in Q's alterbate reality such as the Olympic. A Galaxy-class is most symbolic for a Federation President's needs from the 2360s to whenever it retires.

However, that design is nice for a 25th-century Federation Starship based on the Galaxy-class.

I concur I luv Azel's design,but it does look future Trek'ish.BUt someoone please make it. How about something like this.....
http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/galexploration_friendship.jpg
Or is it too fanfic as well?

Rat Boy · « **Reply #8 on:** August 03, 2004, 08:33:45 pm »

I like it a lot as a 25th Century Galaxy, but is it just me or does the fin look a little out of place? Maybe the presidential version can have a fin and a standard Starfleet version doesn't?

Azel · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2004, 10:41:11 pm »

Quote from: Rat Boy on August 03, 2004, 08:33:45 pm

I like it a lot as a 25th Century Galaxy, but is it just me or does the fin look a little out of place? Maybe the presidential version can have a fin and a standard Starfleet version doesn't?

Its a Keel mate, not a Fin

its for more "Stuff"

wulf111 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2004, 09:30:38 am »

any chance that i could get schematic views of this ship i would love to attempt this one

Rhaz · « **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2004, 09:32:14 am »

I like it - Trek ships IMO never took advantage of the z-axis, and this makes good use of it while still looking like it belongs in the trek universe.

Azel · « **Reply #12 on:** August 04, 2004, 12:22:53 pm »

Quote from: Rhaz on August 04, 2004, 09:32:14 am

I like it - Trek ships IMO never took advantage of the z-axis, and this makes good use of it while still looking like it belongs in the trek universe.

Thanks mate

Quote

any chance that i could get schematic views of this ship i would love to attempt this one

I did a 3-D sketch of the ship in Milkshape...I can email it to you If you want mate

wulf111 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 04, 2004, 12:52:12 pm »

sent you a pm with my email thanks ill see what i can do with this one im not really good with max (newbie teaching myself) its just this ship .... just does something to me LOL

Azel · « **Reply #14 on:** August 04, 2004, 01:11:48 pm »

Quote from: wulf111 on August 04, 2004, 12:52:12 pm

sent you a pm with my email thanks ill see what i can do with this one im not really good with max (newbie teaching myself) its just this ship .... just does something to me LOL

Uh oh...lol,
Can max open MS3d files???...hell I'll sent the mod too

wulf111 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 04, 2004, 01:43:18 pm »

Thanks Az that gave me a great of some of the stuff the artwork didn't show (many ideas spinning in head) look for an update later on this comming weekend

intermech · « **Reply #16 on:** August 04, 2004, 07:43:06 pm »

I dub thee Starfleet One.

Nice work Atolm, as usually! Atolm for president!!!!

Interstellar Machine

E_Look · « **Reply #17 on:** August 05, 2004, 10:08:08 pm »

Slow down!

Mayor of Noo Yowk foist!

Cool ship; maybe you can make ir a 25th centry NYPD cruiser (just change the paint!).

Azel · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2004, 12:33:29 am »

LOL
Thanks mates,
Now its up to Wulf111

Major A Payne · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2004, 11:40:10 pm »

Let me see:

- Nemesis Spacedock nearly finished.
- NX05 to do.
- Sentinel class to do.
- Danube runabout (without torpedo pod) to do.

and I got to add this design to my list of to do's. Excellent work Azel. Probabyl one of the unique designs I've ever seen anyway.

Azel · « **Reply #20 on:** August 07, 2004, 12:46:29 am »

Quote from: Major A Payne on August 06, 2004, 11:40:10 pm

Let me see:

- Nemesis Spacedock nearly finished.
- NX05 to do.
- Sentinel class to do.
- Danube runabout (without torpedo pod) to do.

and I got to add this design to my list of to do's. Excellent work Azel. Probabyl one of the unique designs I've ever seen anyway.

Thanks mate!!!
And you also trying her out would be cool

Centurus · « **Reply #21 on:** August 08, 2004, 02:06:18 am »

I was just looking at some screenshots I took in game of the Enterprise G, and noticed a few similarities between the Ent-G and this submission for a Presidential ship. Just thought I'd mention it.

wulf111 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 09, 2004, 07:26:56 am »

ok here is what i have so far not to bad for my first try at modelling

Core · « **Reply #23 on:** August 09, 2004, 09:35:28 am »

i think that the upper thing that you have on the saucer is spoused to be reversed th saucer is spoused to have an inward curve like the voyager did but a tad bigger

BTW it is very good considering its your first time modeling

wulf111 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 09, 2004, 11:16:10 am »

thanks for the ideas Core ill take those into consideration as i refine the model. I have alot to do still and alot more to learn but all in all i think I am getting the hang of things. i am not to happy with the main hull the shape just isnt right. Altho with a little tweeking i think i have the nacells(sp.) spot on.

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #25 on:** August 09, 2004, 12:22:27 pm »

Quote from: Furyofaseraph on August 03, 2004, 08:02:19 am

Excellent Drawing

wulf111 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 10, 2004, 08:27:40 am »

Reworked nacell

markyd · « **Reply #27 on:** August 10, 2004, 08:56:40 am »

Pretty good attempt so far keep it up......

what is the current poly count?

is it just me.... your saucer looks too small.

wulf111 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 10, 2004, 09:27:49 am »

Not sure as to how to find out the current poly count. Im working with MAX 4.2. As for the Saucer i have the same feeling so im also redoing that entire piece with improved geometry. my biggest challenge is the hull i have yet to come up with something that i am satisfied with.

wulf111 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 11, 2004, 07:09:29 am »

after reworking the hull and saucer section the poly count comes to about 5300 polygons if i optimize the saucer i can get it down to about 3800 polys not to bat if i say so myself

i will have new pics of all the reworked ship probably tomorrow as i do not have internet at home and have to post them from work.

Azel · « **Reply #30 on:** August 11, 2004, 09:13:25 am »

Looking good sofar mate

You got that Nacelle is down to a "T"

My only suggestion is to use My mesh as a guide
for the Proportions and shapes, as they are more accurate

wulf111 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 11, 2004, 09:25:02 am »

i have been Az your mesh has been a great help for scale just wait till i get those new pics up i think you will be pleased at the progress

Thank you for allowing me the chance to make this incredable vessel>

Azel · « **Reply #32 on:** August 11, 2004, 01:41:09 pm »

Quote from: wulf111 on August 11, 2004, 09:25:02 am

i have been Az your mesh has been a great help for scale just wait till i get those new pics up i think you will be pleased at the progress Thank you for allowing me the chance to make this incredable vessel>

Not a problem mate...It is I that is honored for your your undertaking

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #33 on:** August 11, 2004, 02:55:44 pm »

Quote from: wulf111 on August 11, 2004, 09:25:02 am

i have been Az your mesh has been a great help for scale just wait till i get those new pics up i think you will be pleased at the progress Thank you for allowing me the chance to make this incredable vessel>

Awesome attempt on your first ship sir,major props to ya.Seeing your rendition of the ship IMHO makes it look like a Gal/Olympic Hybrid.Keep the shape but fatten up the keel so it's more of an elongated secondary hull. With all due respect to Azel and the design ,Keels are about as useful in space as a canvas sail or a set of oars.And beside if it's thicker it can hold more "stuff".Just my .$02

I look forward to seeing the finished ship.

-MP

Azel · « **Reply #34 on:** August 11, 2004, 03:33:21 pm »

Quote from: ModelsPlease on August 11, 2004, 02:55:44 pm

Quote from: wulf111 on August 11, 2004, 09:25:02 am
i have been Az your mesh has been a great help for scale just wait till i get those new pics up i think you will be pleased at the progress Thank you for allowing me the chance to make this incredable vessel>

Awesome attempt on your first ship sir,major props to ya.Seeing your rendition of the ship IMHO makes it look like a Gal/Olympic Hybrid.Keep the shape but fatten up the keel so it's more of an elongated secondary hull. With all due respect to Azel and the design ,Keels are about as useful in space as a canvas sail or a set of oars.And beside if it's thicker it can hold more "stuff".Just my .$02 I look forward to seeing the finished ship.

-MP

lol...the keel is wide mate....and nor does any other shape in the hull have anything to do with space dynamics(unless there is something to warp dynamics)...but it is Wide enough....if you want when this ship is done(as is) we can make a MP variant

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2004, 10:26:57 pm »

Quote from: Azel on August 11, 2004, 03:33:21 pm

Quote from: ModelsPlease on August 11, 2004, 02:55:44 pm
Quote from: wulf111 on August 11, 2004, 09:25:02 am
i have been Az your mesh has been a great help for scale just wait till i get those new pics up i think you will be pleased at the progress Thank you for allowing me the chance to make this incredable vessel>

Awesome attempt on your first ship sir,major props to ya.Seeing your rendition of the ship IMHO makes it look like a Gal/Olympic Hybrid.Keep the shape but fatten up the keel so it's more of an elongated secondary hull. With all due respect to Azel and the design ,Keels are about as useful in space as a canvas sail or a set of oars.And beside if it's thicker it can hold more "stuff".Just my .$02 I look forward to seeing the finished ship.

-MP
lol...the keel is wide mate....and nor does any other shape in the hull have anything to do with space dynamics(unless there is something to warp dynamics)...but it is Wide enough....if you want when this ship is done(as is) we can make a MP variant

Outstanding !!! I would be honored. Oh BTW I have gone as far as i can go with the Ent H. As well as my rework on the Ent Z. I can send the your way for approval if you wish?
-MP

Azel · « **Reply #36 on:** August 11, 2004, 10:31:23 pm »

Quote from: ModelsPlease on August 11, 2004, 10:26:57 pm

Quote from: Azel on August 11, 2004, 03:33:21 pm
Quote from: ModelsPlease on August 11, 2004, 02:55:44 pm
Quote from: wulf111 on August 11, 2004, 09:25:02 am
i have been Az your mesh has been a great help for scale just wait till i get those new pics up i think you will be pleased at the progress Thank you for allowing me the chance to make this incredable vessel>

Awesome attempt on your first ship sir,major props to ya.Seeing your rendition of the ship IMHO makes it look like a Gal/Olympic Hybrid.Keep the shape but fatten up the keel so it's more of an elongated secondary hull. With all due respect to Azel and the design ,Keels are about as useful in space as a canvas sail or a set of oars.And beside if it's thicker it can hold more "stuff".Just my .$02 I look forward to seeing the finished ship.

-MP
lol...the keel is wide mate....and nor does any other shape in the hull have anything to do with space dynamics(unless there is something to warp dynamics)...but it is Wide enough....if you want when this ship is done(as is) we can make a MP variant

Outstanding !!! I would be honored. Oh BTW I have gone as far as i can go with the Ent H. As well as my rework on the Ent Z. I can send the your way for approval if you wish?
-MP

Aye

wulf111 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 12, 2004, 07:02:15 am »

Well as far as i can tell my take on this ship is complete total poly count is 3831.
I dont have any way of texturing this baby so if any of you would like to let me know and i will email her to you

wulf111 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 12, 2004, 07:05:47 am »

here are a few more pics before i added the torp launcher and impulse engines

Azel · « **Reply #39 on:** August 12, 2004, 09:28:35 am »

NICE!!!
Sure send her My ...I can take a closer look...and correct any in consistancies to the drawing, 3D sketch

wulf111 · « **Reply #40 on:** August 12, 2004, 09:34:13 am »

File sent my friend

Azel · « **Reply #41 on:** August 12, 2004, 09:37:34 am »

lets see...

Azel · « **Reply #42 on:** August 12, 2004, 09:42:46 am »

what is on the mod.file??
I can open it in the veiwer but not in milkshape
it is showing something on it in the veiwer

wulf111 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 12, 2004, 09:57:19 am »

not sure what you are asking? It opens up fine in my mod viewer. the mod file is of the ship only maybe i did something to it that MS couldnt work with?

Azel · « **Reply #44 on:** August 12, 2004, 01:56:00 pm »

Quote from: wulf111 on August 12, 2004, 09:57:19 am

not sure what you are asking? It opens up fine in my mod viewer. the mod file is of the ship only maybe i did something to it that MS couldnt work with?

Aye

wulf111 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2004, 09:45:36 am »

Az any luck on getting this ship to open if not i could try just emailing you the seperate parts

Azel · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2004, 09:48:18 am »

Quote from: wulf111 on August 16, 2004, 09:45:36 am

Az any luck on getting this ship to open if not i could try just emailing you the seperate parts

negative....its not the size of the model mate...I think its somethinf in the conversion

wulf111 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2004, 10:16:56 am »

have you ever had this happen before? is there another conversion type that i can change it to that you would be able to open?

Azel · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2004, 08:38:25 pm »

Quote from: wulf111 on August 16, 2004, 10:16:56 am

have you ever had this happen before? is there another conversion type that i can change it to that you would be able to open?

nope & nope

Reverend · « **Reply #49 on:** August 17, 2004, 12:18:43 am »

so is it broke?

wulf111 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 17, 2004, 10:26:36 am »

i dont know if its broke or not maybe someone that uses MAX can take a look at it and i still need someone to texture this ship

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