Topic: Why is X your favorite race to fly on D2?

[FPF-DieHard]

Just curious as to people's reasons for flying a race.  Most of us have race-whored enough to be familiar with the different races.

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

Kzin,

love the comradarie, the dedication and teamwork, the almost complete lack of "problem children"  (except for Maverick of course   ), the sense of fun of the group.

Additionally I like getting up close and personal with phaser 3s when I can, and saber dancing with disruptors at other times.

Additionally I get quickly bored by too many consecutive long plasma duels. they are ok once in a while but to go through a 3 hour plus duel every night with Fluf would get tiring. 

Prefer the flanking game and deepstrikes as well something the Kzin do well as trench warfare isn't their strongest point.

Finally prefer flying a less populated race.

Second would be Romulan, but only occasionally.

[Mog]

Could prove to be an interesting topic.

I've played all the races to one degree or another (least time spent in Hydran, Mirak and Fed - I just don't enjoy flying those much).

I started out in SFC1 online as a very unsuccessful Romulan player (with a cat persona, go figure). When EAW arrived I tried out ISC, but got bored of them (found them rather easy to win with and didn't really care for being called a cheat because some people couldn't understand how I was flying them).

I joined a friend's fleet, the House of Zakath, for Starlance, and played a lot of Klingon on Mplayer and then Gamespy, continuing that into D2. Then, around the time of the Klinzhai server, I decided to finally try and master Lyran ships, having lost a lot of times to players in their ships, especially in SFC1. I tried to fly them like I flew Klingon - fast saber dancing. Lo and behold, within a week I was getting kills.

Basically, I still like to fly the other races, but Lyrans suit the way I've flown for a long time, more so than any other race. They are, imo, a pure skill race, no drones or plasma (just suicide shuttles), and not reliant on attrition units all of the time (I usually forget I have PFs if I'm in an F variant, lol). They are reasonable at mid ranges (9 to 15) and can be awesome in close. They have excellent drone defence, but are vulnerable to fighters I feel. And, they are cats, meow.

[KBFLordKrueg]

Klingons, of course. I like the combo of weapons and manuverability. But, after flying Roms on LB5 have developed a liking for the ability to do many missions without resupply also.

[Hexx]

Started off with Klingons way back, liked the maneuverability & the phaser suites. (I don't think I fired a disrupter in anger for over a year). Switched to Lyran kinda on a whim and because I'd heard stories of all the great Lyran pilots. Plus being a lower popluated race meant I might actually be able to get the ship I wanted.
Liked the Lyran maneuverablity as well, plus the phaser arcs were pretty good.
Plus there's just something about the ESG...

Bascially I guess I just like ships that can turn and have good phaser suites.
Pretty much rules out everyone but the Lyran and klinks.

[KBF-Kurok]

Klingon followed by Hydran

[Julin Eurthyr]

ISC, obviously...

The story:

Back in SFC 1, I was a fairly decent, if untested, Fed and Rommie pilot.  Actually went under a different callsign back then.

Twoard the end, there was a on-board story / RP going on called The Hyperion Saga.  As the ISC was un-represented, I got interested and involved in the saga as the ISC's representative.

Julin Eurthyr and the 673rd Jello Echelon were born there...

When SFC 2 came out, I was interested in checking them out.  After a few campaigns where I found the DF-firepower like photons represented in my PPD, and seeking Plasma like Rommies, I felt comfortable with my decision, and stayed ISC since.

Also, I've always roleplayed my character as more interested in the actual Pacification program rather than being a froggie / Veltrassi using peace as their excuse for war.  I was like that on all the RP threads leading up to the release of EAW, then the D2.  It was either coincidence or fate that just as I got a stable enough connection (cable modem my wife couldn't kick me off of) to play online, Rook's Tavern 3, with it's ISC pacification theme, came out.  I joined the server (as ISC RM), and the rest, as they say, is history.

I've flown Fed on SG2, since it seemed the Alliance would be completely outnumbered.  That was the only server that had ISC where I wasn't in the blue ships and white uniforms of the Concordium.  I've flown most of the other races at least once on the non-ISC servers, but have found my vision (partial colorblindenss) presents issues flying such lovely races as Klingon, and to a lesser extent, Gorn.  I am most comfortable in heavier crunch ships (Rom and Fed), and I'm a passable Hydran.

[el-Karnak]

I like ISC because they have lotsa problem children to hang out with.  Then the Feds have some too. Plus, the Klingons have some too.  All the other race are just too n-i-c-e to play with.

Other than that, I have no idea why I like to fly  ISC, Klingon and sometimes Fed now.  Might be something to do about getting well-rounded SFB weapon suites that pretty much cover all the different combat styles (droner, plasma, saber-dancing, tank knife-fighting, fighter carriers) with a steady emphasis on intermediate ranged warfare that the Proxy Photon, focused Klingon Phaser/Disrupters strikes and PPDs can provide.

Probably the only thing missing from the combined weapons inventory of Fed/Klingon/ISC are PFs.  One day we'll get Klingon G2s and ISC PFs and everything will be covered. 

[FPF-AJTK]

Played all the races in my years of SFB, and if we had Tholians in OP, I would be HARD pressed as to whether to fly Rock or Fred. Also flew Kzinti alot in SFB.

Here, seeking weapons are seriously nerfed as compared to SFB (home in on the hex the ship is in, not the hex its GOING to, but thats another dead equine.) so I prefer a ship with more DF weapons. Thats one of the reasons I like the CAD so much, its a droner BUT it can phaser boat quite well.

Flew Rommie a few times in SFC1/EAW as well as Klink.

Freds are my favs tho in SFC.

[FPF-Jem]

Fed cause it's the race I stink at the most 

Actually it's more of liking the versatility of many of the Fed designs and the photon torpedo as well as an overdeveloped sense of loyalty, (once upon a time in another game I couldn't bring myself to switch to using a different color to represent myself because red was all you could play in the demo and I couldn't betray red in the full version of the game  )

Otherwise I'm perfectly comfortable and happy (and better in some case  ) flying any other race except for some reason ISC and I honestly don't know why.

[Kroma BaSyl]

Otherwise I'm perfectly comfortable and happy (and better in some case  ) flying any other race except for some reason ISC and I honestly don't know why.

Cheese allergy I take it. 

[FPF-AJTK]

WB Kroma, you sexy bitch.

[Gook]

I normally play Klingon when not on D2. I started Kzin as they were underplayed in an era dominated by Feds, klinks and Roms. Having started Kzin I continue to fly them because of my fleetmates and our achievements in D2. It's certainly not the ships, but the cameraderie, it is second to none.

[Sirgod]

Well , Personaly I just like having something Named after my race. If It happens to be a disease, then I guess that's ok also.

Seriously, Being one of those 2 group People F9th Fleet and Xenocorp, I enjoy being able to branch out and play alot of differant races.

You know one thing that kinda surprised me, was that there was really no Group that Formed playing Pirates when OP came out. Not that It's a bad thing, It just kinda surprised me.

Stephen

[Vorcha]

Klinks - I like to play aggreesive and they suit me. (My current flavor)
Feds - If I'm in a photon mood.
Rommies - If I'm in a Plasma mood.
ISC if I have to win. (pretty dull though)
Mirak if I know I am facing other mirak or Lyran
Lyran if I'm really in an aggresive mood.
Hydran if I want to kick back and play w/ fighters. (Love H2's)

I've played them all and really don't care who or what I play as long as it's a challenge and fun.  The best battle is the same ships in a 1v1...man thats a load of fun.

[Green]

I prefer Lyran or Klingon ships ... but as Chuut noted, I enjoy the small group of die hard Kzin players too much to depart.

[Soreyes]

Kzin of course. As Gook, Chuut, Green have all said. There is just something about flying around with the other Kzin "NUTTERS"....... oh and I also like the Fire and forget weapons

[Cleaven]

Way back when, I drew the short straw one time too many and decided that I would make my friends happy and always fly coalition, and let them have their "Fed-jollies" all the time. I learnt to double-tap disrupters but had more fun scaring them with plasma. People complain about how long it takes to play a game, but if you fired that R-torp and they couldn't counter it, the game was effectively over. If they did evade though, you were a sitting duck for those overloads. Of course you only had one pseudo so bluffing was more of an art. KR's and WE's rule.
 

[Capt Jeff]

Well, fed just barely beats out the rest, and then the rest all come in 2nd place !!


I seriously can't make a worst to first list.   

Every race I've flown has been a blast.

From Lyran on IDSL
Hydran on CW2 and GW2
Rom on DOE
ISC on SS2
Klingon on 4 powers
Mirak on GW1
Gorn ( finally doing this on GW5), though played a lot in SS2 and RDSL testers..ahem...

Now we need to get out those Orion ships damn it !!!

[Father Ted]

Fed through and through. But I do love the occassional excursion as a Hydran or Bruce. Had a blast on DOE and GW2 playing outside the box, and looking forward to the return of Father Bruce for GW5.

[Holocat]

Fed.  Since i'm one of those rare folk that played OP from the get go, for a long while when OP had patching issues and everyone was mostly drumming about EAW there was little to play against excepting AI.

In SFC-1 as well as OP, I mostly mucky mucked with the F-DD.  Still my favoritest ship.  Having my squadron of 2 DDGs and one DD take on Decker's NCL escorts, his CC and then my own DDG double was an intresting thing.

I spent a lot of time running intresting battles with it against AI.  Fully stocked hellbore toting hydran light cruisers, War eagles and F5 squadrons.  A lot of time studying the intracacies of the game, how to maximize those meager DD resources against the AI and try to come out with a win.

When I found the taldren boards, oh so long ago, I started learning about SFB.  Read what little I did to gain again a deeper understanding of what I was doing, or trying to do.

The rest everyone else has gone through.  The many or few battles on GSA, the move from EAW to OP and my first real Dynaverse experience for me and a few other long time OPers.  OP+ and HDWs, which was a kick of life for me, flying that little F-DD, despite the newfound cheezyness and 'sameness' everyone saw in these new pocket CLCs.

I like the lines of the stock taldren Federation destroyer as well, and I suppose that's why I keep playing Fed.  I'll always play something, but when I was just a tiny cat with yet its eyes closed to the world, I saw the small and hardy lines of a stock taldren F-DD and began to dream.

So, I guess, home is where the heart is.  Neh?

[Davey-E]

hmmm

Kzin is fav, Us Cats/Kats are Sexy, Doncha like "Garfield"  lol 

GW1 = Kzin
GW2 = Hydran
GW3 = Kzin
GW4 = Fed
GW5 = Gorn
GW6 = Fed

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

Otherwise I'm perfectly comfortable and happy (and better in some case  ) flying any other race except for some reason ISC and I honestly don't know why.

Cheese allergy I take it. 

Cheddar to brie!

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

Lets see,

My first real online camp was RT3,played Klingon on there...had a blast.

I ran into the normal ISC players there(aye they were flying Klink) Cain,KD,DireWolf,Pharoah.

That group of guys were nuts,they talked me into going ISC on the next server,I have never looked back.

I enjoy Klink the most methinks tho,then ISC,Rommie,Lyran,Hydran(t00l dont faint).

I had been a Lamespy nutter until RT3 loved that server it got me hooked.

Racked up a rather impressive kill list on that one with my C7V(most were ISC):p

[Commander Maxillius]

I signed up here with my Romulan personna, having conquered the single-player map as a Romulan a short time before.  Then I started playing online and, after getting schooled time and time again, decided switching to ISC a better option.  Rommie's still one of my favorites.

here's the order:

ISC
Hydran
Romulan
Klingon

Can't stand flying Lyran (too much power managment) or Gorn (turn too slow, but in their defense, they're better than Feds in that you don't have to wait tiil your ship comes about to fire, the plasma launchers charge in the same time a G-CC takes to turn 360 degrees )

[RazalYllib]

I was born Romulan...

[762_XC]

I have always loved Hydran for the unique technology and challenges it presents.

It's tough to make it work, but that much more satisfying when it does.

[Kroma BaSyl]

I have always loved Hydran for the unique technology and challenges it presents.

It's tough to make it work, but that much more satisfying when it does.

Yeah....whatever "fire and forget boy."

[Commander Maxillius]

he said Hydran, not Kzin, luggage butt :p

[KBF-WillWeasel]

Started out Hydran in SFC1 back on MPlayer with a differnet name.

Took a break for awhile after EAW came out. 1st D2 was Gorn at the end of GW6, found that the turn mode was just to much to deal with. Went back to my 1st love of Hydran on 4power war, loved the fighters and the long range firepower of Hellbores.

As I learned more about the denizens of the D2 I decided I would fly under the likes of Dogmatix and Iaidoka on AOTK and I learned the ways of the disrupter as Klingon. But why I stayed in Klingon ships is not because of the quick firing Disrupter, or the great turn mode, but more for those that fly Klingon.

And so Klingon I remain, save the foray back to Hydran from time to time. Course that explains why i'm one of the few Klingon carrier Jocks.

[alfman]

I started playing Gorn because of Ultraprophet's roleplay posts about how the ISC was going to roll over the Gorn as soon as the D2 became playable. I liked the fact that you could make a mistake and still survive because you had a lot of hull. I like to phasor boat and Gorns have a lot of P-1's, Finally, I like all the Gorn pilots (I like all the Kzinti pilots too, but making a mistake in your ships is very dangerous). I also enjoy fighting Romulans(Something I get to do alot as a Gorn) because they are a good natured bunch who have always flown with honor against me.

[Walleye]

I like Romulan the best. Why? Well, I feel most comfortable flying Romulan, I get more kills flying Romulan, and I LOVE that plasma R.

[FPF-Tobin Dax]

The Federation thing runs deep in my blood, so it's number 1, but I have to admit that I really enjoyed flying mirak in GW1. I'm also looking forward to flying gorn later in the GW series as I flew gorn quite often in Starlance ladder play. 

[Ronin]

Well, although I have flown them all now in league play (race-whore) at some time or another since late '99 the Federation is my home. Although I have always fancied myself a Romulan in a Federation uniform. (Actually in the process of writing a story about it. First nine chapters in the Fan Fiction area.) I enjoy flying them all in some way or another, though.

Was a Fed in SL ladder. (Although I was also a non-aligned "pirate" with iCoP in SL before that)
Was Romulan in the GFL Dyna group.
Fed (SHG), Romulan (RTS), ISC/Gorn/Hydran/Klingon (iCoP) in GZ ladder.
Mirak and Lyran (=SoV=) in GZ Divisional League.

Enough about me... lol

[Reptor]

I started flying Klink during the SFC1/SL/M-player days. When EAW hit, the ISC captivated me and I've been flying ISC since. But, I still enjoy flying Klink every now and then. As to the "why", it's more of a feel. The ISC just feels better for me. May be a PPD thing.

[Matsukasi]

I'm too big a whore to just pick one race, but I've enjoyed Lyran the most I suppose. Meow.

[FPF-DieHard]

Fed obviously.  I was 90% Klingon on SFC1, what got me flying Fed again was the ship models (I'm serious).

[Munin_Raven]

Rommy of course - who else gets real warships that cloak and have plasma? - not to mention what 4 cenl's can do to an enemy if they can get loaded in time and live long enough to fire.  lots of people mock the cloak but it can make a nightmare for the kzin and gorn - to everyone else it is a matter of timeing your plasma load and decloak to (hopefully) gut them while they close in to sit and phizzer ya to death - that and the whole "death from the shadows" thing the tal'shair have going

[Dizzy]

Fed sure isnt the most fun for me, feels like a job when I'm in a PvP... The ships are so general. They just dont do anything very well... However on the flip side, they dont do anything very bad either. So adaptable to most players, tactics and ships they are. But fighting any competent player feels like work for me. Hard ship to have fun in 4 sure.

Kzin is the most fun... Had a blast GW2. Harder to kill a PvPer than you'd think tho... Takes great skill. May be a shock to the Kzin faithful, but till GW2 I never respected the Kzin players when they scored a kill. Chalked it up to cheap tactics like the death drag and such. But I learned fast that it takes a lot to catch and kill a competent player w/o getting the [expletive] beat out of you first or running out of missiles second... So hats off.

Rom is my second fav. Something about how they do it all. They are a class above the others. Nobility almost. Chopin, Gershwin, Haydn, Sibelius all come to mind. It's fluidic space symphony at its best...

The others are all evil.

[C-Los]

     Have been true 'BLUE"....Thru all CW's

     I forget which one it was, But I was flying wing with Shadow Serph, and watching him Tool around in his Hydran ship was sweet !! Told him I was interested, he said anytime and he'd show me the ropes..Unforunately when I decided to Fly purple he wasn't around..    If anyone talks to him tell him I said "HI"   

     Thanks to Deadmansix and Capt.Jeff I now love the Hydran Race...         

      (762 for tips and Max Power for the Ship and Fighter Tactics papers)

      I'd have to say 3rd would be Lyran, only flown them once but I love the ships...

      4th would be Kizinti, had fun on GW1...MB do it again sometime !

      Rom...tried on DOE,      "ANYONE" who flys Rom has my utmost respect, what a sobering experience I had always heared about the hard time they have starting in early era and getting PP together...I know what they mean now !

      ISC played on DSL, fell in love with PPD..

[Grim]

Well i started off as a fred (most people do), joined a large fleet at the time GFL and was in the fed section for a while.

I felt after a while that i fancied a change and started talking to the hydran division players, mainly comprised of GT players such as Hydranstorm, bottesini, maglauncher, shadowbane etc. I played with them loads on gsa etc and developed a love of hydran ships. I then transfered to the hydran division and worked my way up the ranks.

Been flying hydran on gsa and dynas ever since.

[KBF-Dogmatix_XC]

Even back as far as the early 80's when I started playing SFB...I flew Klingon.  In fact, I have never flown as a Fred in SFB.  When I wasn't flying Klingon in SFB, I was flying Hydran.  I guess I have always hated that the "good guys" always win in the movies...much the same way as I have a general dislike for "pop culture."  If it's popular on TV or the radio...I pretty much hate it.  I'm a contrarian in some respects, I guess.  I started flying Klingon from the start and I haven't looked back since.


Even when SFC1 came out, the first single player campaign I played was the Klingon one and the last one I played was Fred.  On MPlayer, I always flew Klingon or Hydran.  When SFC2 came out, I bought it, but didn't really play it until the D2 went public and then I was there on Day 1...as a Klingon.  I think during that first week, I logged into on of the IPlay servers as a Fred and flew a BCJ for a little while.  That got old real quick because those servers were overrun with Smurfs...heheh.  I didn't fly Fred again until IDSL, I think...there were no Freds online (which was weird) so Bonez and I decided we'd go be the Fred navy for a while.  Once the usual Smurfs started showing up, I swtiched back...though I did really learn to enjoy the F-DDG and I felt like photons hit just fine when you used them right...heheh.  That doesn't mean you'll ever katch me in a K-D7T, though!


Most of my SFC2 time has been spent flying Klingon, of course.  I've flown a good deal of Romulan, ISC and Hydran, though, and pretty much enjoy them in that order, after Klingon.


I have never felt comfortable flying Lyran, oddly enough...I feel like they out-Klingon the Klingons, but I just can't get used to them.  Maybe I just need to make more of an effort.  I enjoy flying Gorn, too, though I haven't done that much.  For plasma, I prefer the Romulans because they can actually turn and I'm fairly used to having the inferior phaser suites...heheh.  As much as I enjoy my Kzin friends, I simply hate their interface....drives me crazy, so it's hard for me to get up the gumption to fly them much anymore, though I have spent a fair amount of time in the past flying Kzin.


I think as far as the Freds go...I don't like the interface much and I think I'd rather fight them than fly them, anyway.  There's nothing wrong with their ships, though and a lot of good guys can be found in their ranks.


So...I guess I basically chose Klingon in SFC2 because that had been my history with SFC1 and SFB.  In the "real world" I like the good guy to win, but when it comes to the world of entertainment, it grates on me that the "good guy" always wins...there's always some deus ex machina that saves the day and it bugs the hell out of me.  Sometimes, that "good guy" mentality has gotten displayed here in this community and it has bugged me, too.  Maybe it's irrational, in a way, but I don't like the idea of SFC being about "good guys" and "bad guys."  I don't think any race in this game has any claim on the title "good guys."  As a Klingon player, I don't view myself or my comrades as "bad guys" at all.  Say what you want, but it isn't easy always trying to fight through the "history" Paramount and ADB have written for us.

I also have a propensity for backing underdogs and in this respect, I see the Klingons and Coalition as the underdogs.  SFB history and tech wasn't written in their favor and thus, neither were the games in the SFC series.  I guess that's probably why the Klingon Empire and the Coalition in general always feels like home.  It works out well that I find that with very few exceptions, the Klingon playerbase consists of some of the nicest, most honorable people you'll ever meet and they are just nails to wing with.  I think the overall mentality/attitude of the Klingon regulars has changed a bit from what I remember it being "back in the day" when SFC2/D2 was at the height of its popularity, but these are still good people worthy of spending time with.  I have friends among the other races and have enjoyed my time with them, but I always have the most fun flying Klingon/Coalition.

[Lear]

I have been a "War Gamer" since I was about 12years old
(I am 46 now) with my first game of risk them panzer-Blitz.
played SFB all though highschool and can remember when A Klingon
friend of mine flew right though a swarm of drones because
he was speed 24 and they were speed 8 and they had to move
into the hex to attack.Was called Lear even before the Learns came
out didn"t like them though because trying to get to range 3
(with plotted movement) was near impossible. flew a lot of Rom,
and Fed back then. Flew Rom for SL ladder league for the HFa
(Hell Fire Alliance) back when i had Dial-up didnot work out to well
but enough history
prefer flying Romulian then Fed/Klingon Droners(much like Plasma
but better Cycle times and power curves. least favorite is Learns
because of how close you must get to use ESG.the rest is
pretty much a wash.Officially i am the Learn ambassador to the
Romulian Court

[Cleaven]

In SFB, the ESG was much more defensive in practical use. You didn't have to try and plot an intercept, instead your tactics could be such that you could be pretty sure the bad guy was going to plot to stay away from you. This constrains his manouver, putting him at a disadvantage. Good for sabering away, and if he stuffed up you could have a piece of him by firing the ESG. And of course the drone user is trying to force you to use the ESG against the drones, thereby voiding the close-in threat and giving him more freedom to close with you.   

[Max Power]

I have always been a hydran player and nothing else. Never had a reason to ever do anything else; it feels like trying to walk up a wall. Marcus and I once had a conversation about why people choose certian races; his theory (which I agree with) is that certian personality traits match up well with certian races. The hydran can effectively attack at any range, from range 0 to R100. Also one of my most favorite things is a perfectly executed R0 attack. When done well the enemy initially thinks he's ok as you only usually destroy one weapon or so. Then he notes that his entire engine plant is totally destroyed and he can't move, and the game is over. Something fun to try is attempting to one shot a C7 or BCG in a LC (it can be done) as well. Another advantage is frankly that there are so few of us that many don't really know how to fight well against you. I've seen GSC's try to starcastle against a LC or LM, which is a death wish. Kinda funny

Because hydrans use 3 completely different primary weapon styles you can also play them in several ways, so nothing reallly ever gets old. Really my only complaint with the way hydran works is all of the missing stuff, especially the missing fighter capabilities. The incorrect mizia implimentation of the hellbore is also a headache.

Other races; I can make a semi-passable fred as you treat the photons like fusions but fire them at R2 instead of 0. Though their ships turn like fat mooses on frozen pond water.

[Father Ted]

I have always been a hydran player and nothing else. Never had a reason to ever do anything else; it feels like trying to walk up a wall. Marcus and I once had a conversation about why people choose certian races; his theory (which I agree with) is that certian personality traits match up well with certian races. The hydran can effectively attack at any range, from range 0 to R100. Also one of my most favorite things is a perfectly executed R0 attack. When done well the enemy initially thinks he's ok as you only usually destroy one weapon or so. Then he notes that his entire engine plant is totally destroyed and he can't move, and the game is over. Something fun to try is attempting to one shot a C7 or BCG in a LC (it can be done) as well. Another advantage is frankly that there are so few of us that many don't really know how to fight well against you. I've seen GSC's try to starcastle against a LC or LM, which is a death wish. Kinda funny

Because hydrans use 3 completely different primary weapon styles you can also play them in several ways, so nothing reallly ever gets old. Really my only complaint with the way hydran works is all of the missing stuff, especially the missing fighter capabilities. The incorrect mizia implimentation of the hellbore is also a headache.

Other races; I can make a semi-passable fred as you treat the photons like fusions but fire them at R2 instead of 0. Though their ships turn like fat mooses on frozen pond water.

Back when I used to play SFB, Hydrans were far and away my favorite race, followed by Rom and Klink. I was a decent Fed, but usually, the group needed somebody to fly the OTHER race, so I learned the joys of hellbores, fighters, and Howler PF's.