Topic: GW3 Bug and Issue reporting thread thingy

[KBF-Crim]

It's J'inns server,

LOL...yeah we should have all assumed anything involving rocks hitting ships was strictly forbidden. <snicker>

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*DEEP BEATH*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

*WIPE TEARS FROM EYES*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

HA!

[KBF-Crim]

Has it not been Diehard on 3 separate cases said, let this community burn to the ground?

No doubt DH could use a little sensitivity training, but to be fair those outburst are usually fueled by ungrateful cretins with only their own self interest and personnel axes to grind.

Boy sounds like a good admin to me.

Like I said Will, "put up, or shut up". We are all waiting for your server.

How a RM can publicly post stuff out loud about why GW3 is hosting by DH and not XenoCorp, and still be a RM is reprehensible in the extreme.

Since some KBF Klingons have a little trouble comprehending what honor is, you know the stuff the Klingons in Star Trek talk about ad nauseum then I will give a little example of how the 4 year SFB Klingon veteran does it.

Honor is sticking up for the admin. who arrogantly was told it would have been better if the campaign he worked so hard on was hosting by some else.  Honor is refusing to play on any dyna where the RM who publicly post such vile statements does not apologize or retract it.  Honer is refusing to acknowledge the existence of the fleet that said RM is a member. The KBF really is a dead fleet to this frog.

*crossed hands and turns back any KBF that support WW in his "dump the server" slam*

Maltz!!  Jol yi chu!!

PS. This is all so disappointing. SFC3 was never this bad. *looking for EVE Online demo*

Knock it off.....not a request.

[Dizzy]

IMHO..this is a mid server RULE CHANGE...and I thought we all agreed that mid server rule changes were bad....

In all fairness Crim, DH can be objective and contructive. (Surprised? You see a whole different DH in SGODev.) He took the issue up with everyone at SGODev, and the bunch are in discussion about it. Here is a snippet from DH about it: "If the Asteroid had a Move cost of 10 (maybe that is a little (low)<translation, (We) will come up with a more reasonable number... then maybe this could be acceptable." Which I agree with. There HAS to be a movement penalty, for instance the rock has to have a size class of at least a BB so a Frig wont really push it anywhere, and even a BB would be slowed by it... It's totally open for discussion by everyone here, but not mid server. More important and fun things are happening on the server...

I agree somewhat with what DH is saying in that, this is a kinda sudden recently discovered thing and that both sides have issues with it... I personally think it will be a new 'feature' for dynas. But until we get the testing and specs done, let's let the chips lie where they have fallen and move on.

No doubt DH could use a little sensitivity training,

Yeah, well good advice for all of us. Not just DH. Cut him some slack, he's having a tough RL time, ok?

[Surfal]

Dizzy the Peacemaker?  Paging Rod Serling, have I got a story for you!

WW, I flipped the breaker on DH. He's chilled out. Damn kneejerk of both of u...

We all know it takes DH a day to recover from a meltdown... He's strung tighter than a Stradivarius. Stop pressing his buttons, plz. He has agreed to a cessesion of hostilities for a day.

I suggest we all chill out a lil bit. It's about a f*cking rock. Cooler heads will prevail...

It's J'inns server, DH's doing his best to make the server work and he is having major real life crisis. Just a little slack plz.

Its a great server, everyone is having fun, so lets chill out on the issues for a day...

Personal favor for Dizzy. Asking the whole community here, folks. Thx.

[el-Karnak]

Has it not been Diehard on 3 separate cases said, let this community burn to the ground?

No doubt DH could use a little sensitivity training, but to be fair those outburst are usually fueled by ungrateful cretins with only their own self interest and personnel axes to grind.

Boy sounds like a good admin to me.

Like I said Will, "put up, or shut up". We are all waiting for your server.

How a RM can publicly post stuff out loud about why GW3 is hosting by DH and not XenoCorp, and still be a RM is reprehensible in the extreme.

Since some KBF Klingons have a little trouble comprehending what honor is, you know the stuff the Klingons in Star Trek talk about ad nauseum then I will give a little example of how the 4 year SFB Klingon veteran does it.

Honor is sticking up for the admin. who arrogantly was told it would have been better if the campaign he worked so hard on was hosting by some else.  Honor is refusing to play on any dyna where the RM who publicly post such vile statements does not apologize or retract it.  Honer is refusing to acknowledge the existence of the fleet that said RM is a member. The KBF really is a dead fleet to this frog.

*crossed hands and turns back any KBF that support WW in his "dump the server" slam*

Maltz!!  Jol yi chu!!

PS. This is all so disappointing. SFC3 was never this bad. *looking for EVE Online demo*

Knock it off.....not a request.

I agree the time for talking is over. Now the time to see some tangible results occur.

*clock is ticking*

[Kroma BaSyl]

Has it not been Diehard on 3 separate cases said, let this community burn to the ground?

No doubt DH could use a little sensitivity training, but to be fair those outburst are usually fueled by ungrateful cretins with only their own self interest and personnel axes to grind.

Boy sounds like a good admin to me.

Like I said Will, "put up, or shut up". We are all waiting for your server.

How a RM can publicly post stuff out loud about why GW3 is hosting by DH and not XenoCorp, and still be a RM is reprehensible in the extreme.

Since some KBF Klingons have a little trouble comprehending what honor is, you know the stuff the Klingons in Star Trek talk about ad nauseum then I will give a little example of how the 4 year SFB Klingon veteran does it.

Honor is sticking up for the admin. who arrogantly was told it would have been better if the campaign he worked so hard on was hosting by some else.  Honor is refusing to play on any dyna where the RM who publicly post such vile statements does not apologize or retract it.  Honer is refusing to acknowledge the existence of the fleet that said RM is a member. The KBF really is a dead fleet to this frog.

*crossed hands and turns back any KBF that support WW in his "dump the server" slam*

Maltz!!  Jol yi chu!!

PS. This is all so disappointing. SFC3 was never this bad. *looking for EVE Online demo*

Knock it off.....not a request.

Have to agree, to broad a stroke there Karnak.

[KBF-Crim]

IMHO..this is a mid server RULE CHANGE...and I thought we all agreed that mid server rule changes were bad....

In all fairness Crim, DH can be objective and contructive. (Surprised? You see a whole different DH in SGODev.) He took the issue up with everyone at SGODev, and the bunch are in discussion about it. Here is a snippet from DH about it: "If the Asteroid had a Move cost of 10 (maybe that is a little (low)<translation, (We) will come up with a more reasonable number... then maybe this could be acceptable." Which I agree with. There HAS to be a movement penalty, for instance the rock has to have a size class of at least a BB so a Frig wont really push it anywhere, and even a BB would be slowed by it... It's totally open for discussion by everyone here, but not mid server. More important and fun things are happening on the server...

I agree somewhat with what DH is saying in that, this is a kinda sudden recently discovered thing and that both sides have issues with it... I personally think it will be a new 'feature' for dynas. But until we get the testing and specs done, let's let the chips lie where they have fallen and move on.

No doubt DH could use a little sensitivity training,

Yeah, well good advice for all of us. Not just DH. Cut him some slack, he's having a tough RL time, ok?

You make some good points dizz...but I make another one in return...

If DH has a problem with missions...PULL THEM and dont say anything about it......berating players serves no purpose what so ever...

Again....I hope you guys use this on a server sometime( a higher move cost make ALOT of sence)...and I hope someone figures out a way to get a moving asteriod field in play...

[el-Karnak]

Has it not been Diehard on 3 separate cases said, let this community burn to the ground?

No doubt DH could use a little sensitivity training, but to be fair those outburst are usually fueled by ungrateful cretins with only their own self interest and personnel axes to grind.

Boy sounds like a good admin to me.

Like I said Will, "put up, or shut up". We are all waiting for your server.

How a RM can publicly post stuff out loud about why GW3 is hosting by DH and not XenoCorp, and still be a RM is reprehensible in the extreme.

Since some KBF Klingons have a little trouble comprehending what honor is, you know the stuff the Klingons in Star Trek talk about ad nauseum then I will give a little example of how the 4 year SFB Klingon veteran does it.

Honor is sticking up for the admin. who arrogantly was told it would have been better if the campaign he worked so hard on was hosting by some else.  Honor is refusing to play on any dyna where the RM who publicly post such vile statements does not apologize or retract it.  Honer is refusing to acknowledge the existence of the fleet that said RM is a member. The KBF really is a dead fleet to this frog.

*crossed hands and turns back any KBF that support WW in his "dump the server" slam*

Maltz!!  Jol yi chu!!

PS. This is all so disappointing. SFC3 was never this bad. *looking for EVE Online demo*

Knock it off.....not a request.

Have to agree, to broad a stroke there Karnak.

Yeah, I'm a little ticked. Anyway, you know what I mean and it's realistic. I've seen mods disappear when the admin. was so publicly told off.  Like it or not. The Admin. is higher up the dyna food chain than any RM.  No admin. mean no dyna. No RM only means one less player on said dyna. It's a big difference.

[Kroma BaSyl]

No doubt DH could use a little sensitivity training,

Yeah, well good advice for all of us. Not just DH. Cut him some slack, he's having a tough RL time, ok?

Please don't doubt my support for DH and all he has done for the campaign and the game in general, just pointing out that a bit of deep breathing exercises could be useful to those on both sides of this fence. Not saying anything I haven't heard him say about himself in the past.

[KBFLordKrueg]

Ok if if was a Damn bug then i lost my ship to 762 exploiting a bug, he tractored a rock into me. I want my C8VK back.

Yes after repeatedly requesting that you not exploit it. Now I understand that in the middle of a mission hearing that something was being interperted as illegal is a lot to assimilate and I can certianly understand you disagreeing that as to whether or not it was cool. But it is unfortunant that all involved could not act like adults and agree to alt out for a ruling, instead of beginning the trash talk. I guess you are just more interested in acting like a child and a general irritant than a mature adult and leader of your team. Guess it is my own fault for expecting as much after your behavior on GW2. Some people are here trying to make the game better and more fun for all, and others are just to concerned with winning at any cost (and I don't just mean you WW or the Coalition).

Get the pole out of yer A$$. I don't f'ing care, why DH is admin this server I have no idea. We have Xenocorp which has allways been willing to host, and with a better connection at that.

Well there is more to hosting a server than having a machine to run it on. Someone has to configure and test it all out, as well as take the flak from all sides. I guess you wouldn't understand that based on your lack of involvement and effort on those fronts though.

And i'm being HIGHLY sarcastic about the c8vk, I lost it TO THE ROCK, no fed DN hit a rock, it just ate a face full of drones.

No one was saying it did. Bach was very clear that his DN kill was valid, it was your trash talk and general unsportsman like behavior that is at issue.

For what's is worth, my opinion on all this...
This thing with using a rock in a mission was most interesting, have not many tactics using or taking advantage of what limited terrian been discovered and used over the years? Most have now had rules to govern their use, as it has here. I think perhaps that mission should be adjusted by Karnek, which he has already said he'd do, to prevent further "discussions" on it.
But, as far as getting onto WW for blazing away at DH, I'm not sure I blame him. I do respect DH as a player and for what he has done for the SFC community, but, I've seen him at least twice threaten to take the server down because he was angered by a situation, including last night. I mean, comon, guys, are we not adults here? Such statements and actions are bound to draw a similiar response. Such antics also affect both sides, ie: At the time of the "incidient" last night, the Alliance a good numbers advantage. DH said he was taking the server down in a fit of anger and told us GN, then, sure enough the server went down. Granted, it was only for a few minutes, but, when it came back up, only 2 Alliance returned and the advantage was strongly with the Coalition. Also, 95% of the Alliance quickly left TS.
Let us all not forget THIS IS JUST A GAME!
Everybody step back, take a breath and get back to killing each other.  
and all of this is, of course, just IMO.  

[Kroma BaSyl]

berating players serves no purpose what so ever...

Excellent advice for both sides to keep in mind.

[KBF-Crim]

Posted by Karnak:

I agree the time for talking is over. Now the time to see some tangible results occur.

*clock is ticking*

If your hinting that WW should step down...or that KBF members will even entertain such a demand...Dont hold yer breath.

You Talk about WT tactics.....and then you USE THEM...

[KBF-Crim]

berating players serves no purpose what so ever...

Excellent advice for both sides to keep in mind.

heh....even  blind Klingon finds a mug of bloodwine once in a while...

[Kroma BaSyl]

But, as far as getting onto WW for blazing away at DH, I'm not sure I blame him.

It isn't about how WW reacted to DH when he blew up. It is about how he behaved in mission to Bach and 762.

I mean, comon, guys, are we not adults here? Such statements and actions are bound to draw a similiar response. Such antics also affect both sides, ie: At the time of the "incidient" last night, the Alliance a good numbers advantage. DH said he was taking the server down in a fit of anger and told us GN, then, sure enough the server went down. Granted, it was only for a few minutes, but, when it came back up, only 2 Alliance returned and the advantage was strongly with the Coalition.

Please don't leave out the part where I typed sereral messages in springer chat about DH needing to bring it down to rewire the server to his router, which was acknowledged by serveral Coalition players. As you state it here it implies that DH had alterior motives for that server bounce.

[el-Karnak]

No one was saying it did. Bach was very clear that his DN kill was valid, it was your trash talk and general unsportsman like behavior that is at issue.

For what's is worth, my opinion on all this...
This thing with using a rock in a mission was most interesting, have not many tactics using or taking advantage of what limited terrian been discovered and used over the years? Most have now had rules to govern their use, as it has here. I think perhaps that mission should be adjusted by Karnek, which he has already said he'd do, to prevent further "discussions" on it.
But, as far as getting onto WW for blazing away at DH, I'm not sure I blame him.

I don't know about you but my defensiveness mode kicks in big-time when someone slams me in public forum. Do the same slam in a private forum and I don't care.

 I do respect DH as a player and for what he has done for the SFC community, but, I've seen him at least twice threaten to take the server down because he was angered by a situation, including last night. I mean, comon, guys, are we not adults here? Such statements and actions are bound to draw a similiar response. Such antics also affect both sides, ie: At the time of the "incidient" last night, the Alliance a good numbers advantage. DH said he was taking the server down in a fit of anger and told us GN, then, sure enough the server went down. Granted, it was only for a few minutes, but, when it came back up, only 2 Alliance returned and the advantage was strongly with the Coalition. Also, 95% of the Alliance quickly left TS.

OK, would someone please listen to me. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

All this  he did that and he did this and he said this and he threatened that and he blazed at him there and he *((*)( here and he *((** there  needs to be done in the private forums. The RM forums.  Anywhere, but not out in the public domain.  Anyone that does said public *#(*# P00P can't be an ARM, never mind being a RM or Admins. or a fleet leader.

BTW, you'll find more players will stay if this is done.

[el-Karnak]

Posted by Karnak:

I agree the time for talking is over. Now the time to see some tangible results occur.

*clock is ticking*

If your hinting that WW should step down...or that KBF members will even entertain such a demand...Dont hold yer breath.

You Talk about WT tactics.....and then you USE THEM...

 Anyone that does said public *#(*# P00P can't be an ARM, never mind being a RM or Admins. or a fleet leader.
WW = WT in this thread. 

'nuff said.

[KBF-WillWeasel]

berating players serves no purpose what so ever...

Excellent advice for both sides to keep in mind.

OK, I will apologize for dragging this into the open. I won't even ask DH for an apology for cussing me out on teamspeak.

I guess what got me was it seems DH or someone in the alliance food chain knew about this and told them not to do it.

Where is the PM or email to me saying that I or my team should not?

And no Kroma I have no intention of putting up a server, that is not the role I play.

[KBF-Crim]

Karnak...stop making demands that you have no right to make...

[el-Karnak]

Karnak...stop making demands that you have no right to make...

I am not making demands for anyone other than me. I have right to express my notions on public items when publicly posted. Obviously, everyone else should and will do what they want. Just said I won't play on a dyna where above stuff happens.  Probably do some good to hang out with family members more anyway.

OK, I will apologize for dragging this into the open. I won't even ask DH for an apology for cussing me out on teamspeak.

Thank you.  I feel better now.

[Dizzy]

Karnak... Take you lithium plz.