Topic: Castrin ............ WHY? ??????

[Wildcard]

Why delete the one post that clearly shows that Korah gave the Knights Full Permission to use his TNZ Mod?

[FAdmPeers-11thFleet-]

Yeah Castrin, I saw that post then you locked the thread and deleted it.  Covering for your booty buddy freiza?  Think you can protect your piddly corner of the community from the truth?

[FAdmPeers-11thFleet-]

Going to delete it again Castrin?

[FAdmPeers-11thFleet-]

Comon, prove to us that you simply don't like what it proves?  Delete it.  What threat does that statement present to you?  Other then you just don't like it because its not what you want to hear?  I'm sure it turns your entire world upside down eh?

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

This rings true everyday for me. Scott was right.

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Remember my advice to you Wade, that you should drop SFC and find something else to play. If you
would rather continue with SFC, that's certainly your choice, but you will find that all you have
to put up with to do so is going to sour the sweetness of your hard work.

[AdmBishop-11thFleet-]

Please please PLEASE stop provoking them!

[[RK] Castrin]

Yeah Castrin, I saw that post then you locked the thread and deleted it.  Covering for your booty buddy freiza?  Think you can protect your piddly corner of the community from the truth?

I have no idea who Freiza is nor do I really care.

The post that WT put up added nothing to the thread and was made just prior to my post before I could lock that thread. So I deleted it.

As WT has posted it again it's a moot point but there you have my reasons ... not that you truely cared in the first place. You would prefer to label me as you want, feel free it's a free country.

Go ask WT if I've ever been unfair in my actions. I treat him the same as I treat all.

 

[FAdmPeers-11thFleet-]

It was a post that was posted before you could lock the thread eh?  Takes a little extra attention to go back and delete a post...  What could you care?  ...  Rightttttt...  I'm just going to call a personnal foul on that.

[Wildcard]

Castrin I never accused you of being unfair. I just wanted to know why, Or if you thought it didnt belong when it clears all false accusations against WT. Or it may have been simply just a mistake.

Please Castin dont wig out on us. Dont feel that we dont appreciate you.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Please please PLEASE stop provoking them!

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Thank you."

[Wildcard]

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Thank you."










You mean there is a place like Family for us wayward D3 Players? Do I see a light at the end of the tunnel?

[Wildcard]

Speaking of Cannon and Trek, Who would think that the cloaking devise would have 5 levels? Well it dosent. A Cloak is a CLoak is a CLoak. That is really goobered up in SFC III. I believe in older and not as good cloaks but if I have a brand new shinny Warbird I shouldnt have a crappy cloak 1. ROFL

[[RK] Castrin]

Castrin I never accused you of being unfair. I just wanted to know why, Or if you thought it didnt belong when it clears all false accusations against WT. Or it may have been simply just a mistake.

Please Castin dont wig out on us. Dont feel that we dont appreciate you.

Not going to wig out ... lol!

However it seems that Mr Peers has an issue with me. That is his right regardless.

As for clearing things up, we who have been here a long time are tired of the constant bashing. True that WT's post *could* clear things up but for who? Freiza? I doubt it matters what WT posts, his path is set. The community? No, it's just another log on the fire.

Final point, the previous thread is locked. You want to continue that discussion then make a new thread. However since this thread has MY NAME on it if anyone starts flaming in here I WILL lock it ASAP and with out a nice warning.

Peace.

 

[[RK] Castrin]

Here it is again. Unedited

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WT, would you please move this to a seperate thread.

Thanks.

 

[[RK] Castrin]

Please please PLEASE stop provoking them!

Now if I can get him to get forums for his 1,700+ members, THAT would be cool.

I don't have the time nor the sanity to do it and I don't want to take away from the very good forums already serving the community.

 

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

The community? No, it's just another log on the fire.

We are all logs in the fire, Castrin.

We each have a spark to offer and we try to make a community ... But this community here is heavily D-2 oriented -- even Nanner knows it.

<S>

AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Here it is again. Unedited

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WT, would you please move this to a seperate thread.

Thanks.

 

Done Castrin. Delete this if you want.

Thanks Rebel Knights and <S> a great admiral.

[F9thRyker]

Please please PLEASE stop provoking them!

I agree with Bishop. This has gone from a dispute about a fleet's name, to a grandstand p*ssing match, with everyone bringing up (formerly) dead horses for fresh beatings.

Stop it, the lot of you.
 

And those in fleets, remember. If you say something, it reflects on the fleet you're part of- DOA, [TF], RK, 11th Rangers, 11th Vanguard, 9th, it doesnt matter.

Ive learned that lesson the hard way.

Please dont make the same mistakes.


I think it would do the world of good, if everyone left this alone for a day, and slept on it. At least you'd all be thinking with clear heads, and not emotions (and hormones, in some cases).

[SkyFlyer]

Well said Ryker.

[kortez]

Yeah Castrin, I saw that post then you locked the thread and deleted it.  Covering for your booty buddy freiza?  Think you can protect your piddly corner of the community from the truth?

Ask the question about removal, no problem, but if I read one more post accusing an admin of being in cahoots that person is going to face my wrath.  There will be no further warning, not even it if happens three seconds after this is posted.

If you cannot control yourself then stay quiet and do not post until you can.

Peers, you are on two-fold warning, one for the insult to the admin and two for your use of the words "booty buddy."

People better learn to express themselves in non-insulting and civil tones. 

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Please please PLEASE stop provoking them!

I agree with Bishop. This has gone from a dispute about a fleet's name, to a grandstand p*ssing match, with everyone bringing up (formerly) dead horses for fresh beatings.

Stop it, the lot of you.
 

And those in fleets, remember. If you say something, it reflects on the fleet you're part of- DOA, [TF], RK, 11th Rangers, 11th Vanguard, 9th, it doesnt matter.

Ive learned that lesson the hard way.

Please dont make the same mistakes.


I think it would do the world of good, if everyone left this alone for a day, and slept on it. At least you'd all be thinking with clear heads, and not emotions (and hormones, in some cases).

Ryker, how long have we known eachother? Three years? You were a trusted member of the Unity Committee for 1.0. You named the mod.

Please, stop preaching what we already know ... You are in TS now with Kane, who calls me a liar in open threads and questions the integrity of the hard work put together by the Unity modding team.

Go preach to the right street corner, please.

This debate was sparked yesterday in an ill-timed thread by Sandman saying "Original" when referring to his "knock off" 11thFleet, which you darn well knew about prior to your post at sfc3.net. So don't play games here, commodore. You were as much a party in sparking this war of words as anyone.

Read the topic Castrin locked and learn something.

<S>

AdmwaterTiger-11thFleet-

[kortez]

One more time.  Knock off the personal attacks EVERYONE.  I am done warning people.

BTW, I see nothing inflammatory in Ryker's post, even reading between the lines.

[Kane]

THE LINK WAS LOCKED BEFORE I COULD POST THIS.

I'm sorry Admins, but this has to be said.

I never took advantage of Frieza, neither did the Knights (and he was a member until last week). We -- Knights -- used his talents, marketed his name all over the planet and kept doing so after he left for 7 months.

<S>

AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet

According to your statement, you never asked Freiza if it was OK with him.

Just because Freiza wasn't around, it didn't give you the right to do what you did with the mod.  Not like you cared anyway.

You want power and you were willing to do what ever it took to get it. You want respect from Ann, Taldren and the community, but you were too arrogant.  Just like the way you acted toward the XIth fleet, last night on TS.

I know I'm not a saint, but I at least know the difference from what is right and wrong.  I would never take any Mod or Ship without permission.

What you did to Freiza was wrong.

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 You didn't just take the TNZ mod because Korah wasn't around, you sent him an email to use it.  Just like Cue did.

I have both Unity 1.0 and 3.0.  They look the same.

[The Pelican]

I know I'm not a saint, but I at least know the difference from what is right and wrong.  I would never take any Mod or Ship without permission.

What you did to Freiza was wrong.

If that's true? Then provide me with an e-mail proving that you have permission to use my mission scripts - dated prior to the release of any version of Battlezone.

I have Battlezone 1 on my hard-drive, and I'm not even credited for producing the scripts.

The first time I was even contacted over my scripts was in April.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

rofl. Unity 1.0 and Unity 3.0 the same.

rofllmfao

What you miss all the shop adds and core changes and .gf changes to common settings? roflmfao @ Kane.

Muhahhahahahahaha. I can't stop.

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Frieza came back once during the making of Unity 2.0. He had moved to Arizona to stay near his dad, but had no computer that would connect to the Net. His dad came into TS also. He was a nice person. We all enjoyed him.

I don't think Frieza ever even downloaded V2.0, then left again for 4 months.

See we don't need permission from Frieza. It was a Knights project and always has been.

We talked about the changes to Unity 2.0 and filed Frieza in. We told him where we were going with mod direction and I asked him to start gathering Pirate ships. That was Unity 2.0, which was released in March, I believe (check the last readme.txt -- it's all documented to the T).

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Here is Ryker's statement as a member of the original Unity Team ... before we left BattleClinic.

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Re: Unity mod STOLEN?!?!?

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Being only involved with the first incarnation of Unity, I think that it was (initially):

Frieza who attempted to modify the Build 531 version of TNZ (or was it 525?) and did initial work on it, before it became Unity (when the Knights were working on the TNZ base mod after getting permission from KoraH to use it, but not the parts involving the Unspeakable Build),

Iceman who made the new ships and gathered permissions for existing ones,
Rivaris who made the maps,
VSFTie, Sparks and myself who rebooted the server,
WT and Cozbo and Tie who did the server settings,
as well as a couple of others who did testing.


Feel free to correct me if Im wrong, it has been (for me) many MANY moons ago...

[EDIT- Since Unity has changed a lot in the past few months, can it be considered the same mod? I remember hearing the whole thing was overhauled for Unity 2 and 3, but was it based on the same mod 'template' used in Unity 1...

Last edited by F9thRyker on Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:35 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Release date: Unity was released publically on Dec. 21, 2003 and can be downloaded on the Star Trek Gamers Directory at http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/. Unity II was released for distribution in mid-January 2004, and is a stand-alone mod. The Unity I mod is NOT necessary to run Unity II, and may affect game play. It is recommended you delete the original Unity mod and reinstall Unity II. The Unity II base of 246 megs was renamed 'Unity: The Third Age' in February 2004. Unity V3.0 was released for download June 6, 2004 for public download on STGD.
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Author: LordWaterTiger, founder and chief council member of the Brotherhood of Trans-Atlantic Knights (BOTAKnights) http://www.botaknights.com or http://www.botaknights.org or http://www.botaknights.net
Contact: Writinit@aol.com or Writinit@msn.com or Writinit@Lycos.com
AIM: Writinit
Designed for: Starfleet Command III version 1.01 2 Build 500 (Beta Patch). Converted to Taldren BETA 531 on May 02, 2004.
Lead modder: KnightCozbo. Assistants: KnightRivaris, KnightIceman, KnightArcherion nd KnightWaterTiger.
Creator: KnightFrieza .----------------------------
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I personally contacted all the modelers whom Frieza forgot to credit and added their names to the readme.txt.

Then the Unity V2.5 added more ships and so did Unity V3.0. Unity V3.1 will add 70 more.

The mod has completley changed, and frieza left.

I personally think he is scared of some Taldren lawsuit for something funky he did in Unity 1.0 (stole the "testers version of V529 back in November).

Yip, something is bothering him deeper than changing core files and common settings with a modder who actually tests ships he balances.

Here is a locked thread on STGD forums that had dozens of responses from the modders who actually worked on the mod whiole Frieza skipped three states.

http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4276

I'm done dealing with you, Kane. I know why DOA booted you from the fleet now. You gave them a bad name, huh?

<S>

AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-



  

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Looks

I know I'm not a saint, but I at least know the difference from what is right and wrong.  I would never take any Mod or Ship without permission.

What you did to Freiza was wrong.

If that's true? Then provide me with an e-mail proving that you have permission to use my mission scripts - dated prior to the release of any version of Battlezone.

I have Battlezone 1 on my hard-drive, and I'm not even credited for producing the scripts.

The first time I was even contacted over my scripts was in April.

Looks like Kane stuck his thing in it.

Yes, Kane, the rift gets deeper and deeper.
Pelican, Unity has credited you with every version of scripting, and we proudly thank you.

<S>

AdmwaterTiger-11thFleet-

[rivaris]

I know I'm not a saint, but I at least know the difference from what is right and wrong.  I would never take any Mod or Ship without permission.

What you did to Freiza was wrong.

If that's true? Then provide me with an e-mail proving that you have permission to use my mission scripts - dated prior to the release of any version of Battlezone.

I have Battlezone 1 on my hard-drive, and I'm not even credited for producing the scripts.

The first time I was even contacted over my scripts was in April.


well EXUSE ME hmmmm

when you see BZ you have to take it up to there forums

then why in h*ll dont you also state that if you have problems with Unity take it to the Unity forums.

but no you only inforce the rules when it involves your own freaking butt buddies.

[kortez]

then why in h*ll dont you also state that if you have problems with Unity take it to the Unity forums.

but no you only inforce the rules when it involves your own freaking butt buddies.

I just warned people about the use of this term, "but buddies" and there it is again.

No way. 

This thread is now locked.  I will deal out the punishement for this term tonight.