Topic: Community Gap - sfc2/3 a bridge that needs to be made

[Rod ONeal]

Nanner,
What are you talking about? If you want people who like one of the games over the other to start liking them equally, that's not going to happen. If you want disagreements to stop, that's not going to happen either. SFC2 players disagree with each other (as I assume SFC3 players do too). That's not a rift in the community, it's democracy, and sometimes it's hard to handle.

I would recommend, possibly, that people don't post negatively on threads that they have no concern for, and therefore, nothing constructive to add. Also, some people need to stop taking things so seriously. They are just games and you're supposed to have fun playing/modding/etc. them.
The politics are what frigs stuff up for me, at times. Trust me, no matter how influential a person or group gets in the Trek fan community, nobody is really ever going to care. (This is not directed at you personally Nanner, just a general statement.)

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

 

[Rat Boy]

I think the primary problem is rather age old: SFB vs. the rest of Trek.  OP is dominated by SFBers, who can at times act like snobs to SFC3ers or any other Trek gaming community.  Unfortunately, I don't see a bridge ever being built.  SFBers are on their own little planet in comparison to everyone else and choose to isolate themselves.  If they don't want to come out of it, I say fine.  No point in trying to force them out; it's wasted energy.

[Nicola_Venra]

Good point Rat Boy

[kortez]

Yeah, lots of good points, Rod, too.

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

Aye but Rod makes a valid point.


I would recommend, possibly, that people don't post negatively on threads that they have no concern for, and therefore, nothing constructive to add. Also, some people need to stop taking things so seriously. They are just games and you're supposed to have fun playing/modding/etc. them.
The politics are what frigs stuff up for me, at times. Trust me, no matter how influential a person or group gets in the Trek fan community, nobody is really ever going to care.

[Rod ONeal]

I think the primary problem is rather age old: SFB vs. the rest of Trek.  OP is dominated by SFBers, who can at times act like snobs to SFC3ers or any other Trek gaming community.  Unfortunately, I don't see a bridge ever being built.  SFBers are on their own little planet in comparison to everyone else and choose to isolate themselves.  If they don't want to come out of it, I say fine.  No point in trying to force them out; it's wasted energy.

I agree with the heart of your post (not the wording, however). Let us play our game in peace, please. Just because we don't like the same game as you do though doesn't make us snobs. We just don't like SFC3, that's all. We want to play SFB on our PC, and we'll continue to work towards that end for another 30yrs (if us old bastards live that long. ) if you just let us. Is that asking too much?

[FPF-DieHard]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

[Nicola_Venra]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

The continued growth and expansion of the Star Trek gaming community

[Cleaven]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

The continued growth and expansion of the Star Trek gaming community

I think that might be part of the issue. Some people think that the people here are here for Star Trek <play the music now>, but that is not the case. Many people are here simply because they bought a game that was a lot of fun to play. Others are here because they are a subset of that group because they bought a game based on SFB that was fun to play.

Unfortunately people who like good games are not necessarily star trek fans and vice versa. In fact to look at the history of Star Trek games, one could logically conclude that good games and Star Trek are not usually associated at all. Image the surprise of all concerned when the two groups find themselves in the same place. So I think it would be wrong to think that Star Trek is a unifying thing, when to some it is a distraction

[FireSoul]

Let me voice my opinion as well. A lot of you will know me or at least recognize my alias, so I hope my opinions won't shock you because it doesn't agree with yours.


I'm not interested in ANY of the Trek games, except for the ones that are SFB. Even there, it wasn't enough. Therefore I work hard at improving the game *I* enjoy into what I like.

I never liked SFC3. I tried it. I finished the single-player campaigns on a friend's PC. I don't want it otherwise. I never bought it.This isn't about Trek for me. This isn't about community for me.

I jujst want to play SFB and that's what SFC:OP gives me a chance to do.

[FPF-DieHard]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

The continued growth and expansion of the Star Trek gaming community

If it means bringing in more idiots, I'd rather the community be small.

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

The continued growth and expansion of the Star Trek gaming community

If it means bringing in more idiots, I'd rather the community be small.

Attention! it looks like DH has staked out his village.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

The continued growth and expansion of the Star Trek gaming community

If it means bringing in more idiots, I'd rather the community be small.

Excuse me? Who in the world are you to decide who is an idiot and who isn't?

THAT right there is part of the problem identified by Nanner.

And that slogan under your name is rather offensive, don't you think? Racist innuendo, right?

I thought there was rules for that here ... I personally find it offensive.

See, we can all like like God behind the computer monitor, sir.

Go down the street carrying a sign that says "Where da' white women at'? and see how far you get in South Central LA.

**snickers**

[Cleaven]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

The continued growth and expansion of the Star Trek gaming community

If it means bringing in more idiots, I'd rather the community be small.

Excuse me? Who in the world are you to decide who is an idiot and who isn't?

THAT right there is part of the problem identified by Nanner.

And that slogan under your name is rather offensive, don't you think? Racist innuendo, right?

I thought there was rules for that here ... I personally find it offensive.

See, we can all like like God behind the computer monitor, sir.

Go down the street carrying a sign that says "Where da' white women at'? and see how far you get in South Central LA.

**snickers**

Do you need a phillips head or flat tip?

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

only point is that instead of picking apart the pros and cons - that this forum needs to bring fans of both games together in a common cause.

What Common cause?  This is no spoon.

The continued growth and expansion of the Star Trek gaming community

If it means bringing in more idiots, I'd rather the community be small.

Excuse me? Who in the world are you to decide who is an idiot and who isn't?

THAT right there is part of the problem identified by Nanner.

And that slogan under your name is rather offensive, don't you think? Racist innuendo, right?

I thought there was rules for that here ... I personally find it offensive.

See, we can all like like God behind the computer monitor, sir.

Go down the street carrying a sign that says "Where da' white women at'? and see how far you get in South Central LA.

**snickers**

Do you need a phillips head or flat tip?

Flat-tip ..

And Cleavan, I haven't forgotten about your OP angular velocity question, I just gotta get patched -- again. Seems I just patched with 3.2 last week and now I gotta find another load.

Gimmie a minute; headed to Firesouls site in this mess of Trek links.

<S>

[likkerpig]

Excuse me? Who in the world are you to decide who is an idiot and who isn't?

THAT right there is part of the problem identified by Nanner.

And that slogan under your name is rather offensive, don't you think? Racist innuendo, right?

I thought there was rules for that here ... I personally find it offensive.

See, we can all like like God behind the computer monitor, sir.

Go down the street carrying a sign that says "Where da' white women at'? and see how far you get in South Central LA.

**snickers**

I thought I had seen every flame bait ever posted.
Kudo's on your perserverence and ingenuity WT.
I didn't know twat was a racial term. Or are you standing up for all the oppressed castles in the stars?
Thanks for the entertainment!

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

Excuse me? Who in the world are you to decide who is an idiot and who isn't?

THAT right there is part of the problem identified by Nanner.

And that slogan under your name is rather offensive, don't you think? Racist innuendo, right?

I thought there was rules for that here ... I personally find it offensive.

See, we can all like like God behind the computer monitor, sir.

Go down the street carrying a sign that says "Where da' white women at'? and see how far you get in South Central LA.

**snickers**

I thought I had seen every flame bait ever posted.
Kudo's on your perserverence and ingenuity WT.
I didn't know twat was a racial term. Or are you standing up for all the oppressed castles in the stars?
Thanks for the entertainment!

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

I didn't know twat was a racial term. Or are you standing up for all the oppressed castles in the stars?
Thanks for the entertainment!

I'm staying away from those four-letter buzz words, Likker. I'm not risking my account. Having too much fun debating morality with the KBF and FPF.

And yes, for the oppressed castles in the stars ...

A dreamer-realist, gone Carrie who met the Exorcist lovechild on a street corner. All that blood in the gymnasium made me ill and rather jaded.

<S>

AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-

[Cleaven]

And Cleavan, I haven't forgotten about your OP angular velocity question, I just gotta get patched -- again. Seems I just patched with 3.2 last week and now I gotta find another load.

Gimmie a minute; headed to Firesouls site in this mess of Trek links.

<S>

You don't need the modded shiplist to evaluate the games mechanics. It works the same way with any shiplist. Just patch the stock game to 2.5.5.2