Topic: The Presidents ship, what should the name Read on the hull?

[FoaS_XC]

The Registry number is going to stay UFP-1 for now.

[Rat Boy]

Starfleet One.

[Starforce2]

Gee...I didn't realise I was elected

[Centurus]

The Registry number is going to stay UFP-1 for now.

Who's model did you put those textures on?  Was it one of WZ's Sovereigns?  Also, just out of morbid obsession, would it be possible to see the same kind of textures on a refit Constitution?

[Terradyhne]

I think the President should not travel with an normal Sovereign, a Dreadnought or Command Cruiser should be better at all

[Sandman3D]

Federation One...just sounds better, and makes more sense. Air Force One is named after a military branch of the nation, so the military style name here should read Starfleet One...after all, the Federation President is Supreme Commander, Starfleet.

[Dawntreader]

Should be Starfleet One, not the four in the poll.  Although,  UFP-1 looks good as the registry.  Maybe have a fleet of presidential ships.  UFP-1 being the sovereign.  Our current president has several planes for different perposes.  The Federation would also do the same.

[Centurus]

The Registry number is going to stay UFP-1 for now.

Another question.  When is this baby gonna be released??

[Rat Boy]

Should be Starfleet One, not the four in the poll.  Although,  UFP-1 looks good as the registry.  Maybe have a fleet of presidential ships.  UFP-1 being the sovereign.  Our current president has several planes for different perposes.  The Federation would also do the same.

And it's originally a civilian design.  Comparitively, if Bush was to have a plane like this, it'd be a B2 rather than a modded 747.  I've always thought that the Federation president would travel around in a CL or CA with heavy escort.

[Chris Johnson]

Fury, although I'd commend you on a job well done, and it is, I don't believe Starfleet would have a Sovereign for a president's ship of that era.  It's more a fanboy ship of someone who thinks "Sovvies are cool!" and imagines themself as the President of the UFP, with a "cool" ship armed to the teeth.  IMHO, the Galaxy-class model kitbash this ship is based on fits more perfectly to what it should be, considering how a Galaxy-class is more a huge deep-space explatory ship that Gene wanted it to be...

...So despite on a good effort, I'm sorry but I feel I must say it was sort-of wasted as it isn't as realistic as it would be with a Galaxy-class, or something smaller yet is still an exploration-type of Starship (I.E. Intrepid, or New Orleans, or even Cheyenne-class!).

Once again, I'm sorry to criticize you in this way Fury as you have done a good job, but I feel it isn't the right vessel.

[Reverend]

I concur, Starfleet One while he's onboard, USS Whatever when he immediately beams off....

[cmdr_kobosh]

Fury, although I'd commend you on a job well done, and it is, I don't believe Starfleet would have a Sovereign for a president's ship of that era.  It's more a fanboy ship of someone who thinks "Sovvies are cool!" and imagines themself as the President of the UFP, with a "cool" ship armed to the teeth.  IMHO, the Galaxy-class model kitbash this ship is based on fits more perfectly to what it should be, considering how a Galaxy-class is more a huge deep-space explatory ship that Gene wanted it to be...

...So despite on a good effort, I'm sorry but I feel I must say it was sort-of wasted as it isn't as realistic as it would be with a Galaxy-class, or something smaller yet is still an exploration-type of Starship (I.E. Intrepid, or New Orleans, or even Cheyenne-class!).

Once again, I'm sorry to criticize you in this way Fury as you have done a good job, but I feel it isn't the right vessel.

i would somewhat agree with this line of tought, but in my opinion, both the sovvy & galaxy are way to big, a smaller ship would be much better, since it is easier defendable by  its escorts, just imagine  a intrepid hiding behind a sovvy would work better then the other way around, me thinks!!

but fine work nevertheless!

a tought : why not make an entire fleet with these colorschemes??

[ModelsPlease]

Fury, although I'd commend you on a job well done, and it is, I don't believe Starfleet would have a Sovereign for a president's ship of that era.  It's more a fanboy ship of someone who thinks "Sovvies are cool!" and imagines themself as the President of the UFP, with a "cool" ship armed to the teeth.  IMHO, the Galaxy-class model kitbash this ship is based on fits more perfectly to what it should be, considering how a Galaxy-class is more a huge deep-space explatory ship that Gene wanted it to be...

...So despite on a good effort, I'm sorry but I feel I must say it was sort-of wasted as it isn't as realistic as it would be with a Galaxy-class, or something smaller yet is still an exploration-type of Starship (I.E. Intrepid, or New Orleans, or even Cheyenne-class!).

Once again, I'm sorry to criticize you in this way Fury as you have done a good job, but I feel it isn't the right vessel.

I have to agree with Chris on this one,though you've done a fine job,the Galaxy Class ( or a varient there of ) is better suited for a diplomatic role, so I submit these for your consideration..........
http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbash/trekpage_alliance.html
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http://starshipmodeler.org/gallery7/cf_alexander.htm
I think the Sovie is more combat oriented.Just my $.02. Oh and I vote for Starfleet One as it's name.
-MP

[Chris Johnson]

The Sovvie's as much a Hot Rod as a Prometheus or Defiant is, or even a Delta Flyer, without those parts...

"We are not building a twenty-fourth-century hot rod." -- Tuvok

If a Federation President can file a lot of papers, do some end run arounds and stuff, yes, perhaps he could have a Sovereign, but it is very-misrepresenting.  It's a hot rod/battleship hybrid, like the Defiant being a hot rod/destroyer-hybrid.  That's my perception of things here.

Also, I think it should be Federation One, even if it makes more sense being StarFleet One considering the President's airplane is not United States One, it's more diplomatic-like, and more representing, much like a heavily-modified Galaxy-class Starship, or Galaxy-class-esque Starship like a Cheyenne or Intrepid-class would, if something smaller makes more sense...

But here's some suggestions as to what not to use.  These are suggestions derived from Ex-Astris Scientia's Starship Database.

Class Starships (Seen in TNG and DS9-VGR) not to use:

-Akira
-Constellation
-Constitution (If this was the TOS or TMP-era, then maybe.  Reason I included this... I'm not a big fan of "Troubles and Tribblations [DS9]. :p )
-Curry (SEE: Excelsior Study Models)
-Defiant
-Excelsior Study Models (or maybe any Excelsior-kitbash or the Excelsior-class ships themselves)
-Freedom
-Miranda (and variants)
-Nebula (They seem too-mission-specific considering pods and stuff... I.E. Carrier, Science, Combat, etc.)
-Niagra (Too kitbash-ish)
-Nova (Too small, too combat-like despite being a science vessel)
-Oberth (Smaller than even the Nova!  And even more like a sitting duck/free target practice)
-Olympic (Eh, not too appealing, a ship in Q's own conceptual future timeline for Picard in "All Good Things..." [TNG])
-Steamrunner
-Prometheus
-Peregrine (Too fighter-like)
-Phase II ships (They look like they could be put in a more NASA-ish Science Fiction show)
-Saber/Sabre (however you want to spell it)
-Scout Ship (From Insurrection -- Why would the President want a small one-seater?)
-Sovereign (highlighted since you're already are using this)
-Soyuz (As of 2368: "Soyuz-class?  They hadn't been in service in over eighty years." -- Geordi LaForge, I just wanted to quote him, which is why I didn't include Soyuz in Miranda Variants. )
-Springfield
-Steamrunner
-Sydney
-Tug boat/ship (Who'd want that pile of junk? lol)
-Yeager

Just some helpful hints in finding the most practical Federation ship suited for the President of the United Federation of Planets.

[dogfighter]

hawos about: USS IRAQ - Dedication plaque: Weapon of mass destruction.

just kidding.

federation one!


greetings,


ed

[Dawntreader]

GotAFarmYet? retextured a Constitution to be a presidential transport and it looks very realistic.  Looks like something that the president would use.

[Centurus]

Now would you look at that?  Now that's a ship worthy to carry on the tradition and honor of the class.  Although FEDERATION is spelled wrong.  No offense.  Just thought I'd point it out.  Oh, any chance of getting my hands on either of these ships, and could they please be for SFC3? 

[Chris Johnson]

I hope for SFC2 rather, the more-complex, more-interesting game... Even better would be one for all versions.

But... I think gold's overrated.

[Centurus]

Here Here!!!!  Make a version for all versions of SFC, from 1-3.

[Centurus]

BUMP!!

[FoaS_XC]

-Olympic (Eh, not too appealing, a ship in Q's own conceptual future timeline for Picard in "All Good Things..." [TNG])

Actually, i like this one...i may retex one of these and reserve the Sovvie for times of war.

[Dawntreader]

The Constitution is at the sfc2 download area of The Central Savoy (Mackie's site).
http://www.the-tcs.net/dldir/pafiledb.php
Check in federation retextures.  This site has a lot of cool ships.

[Centurus]

-Olympic (Eh, not too appealing, a ship in Q's own conceptual future timeline for Picard in "All Good Things..." [TNG])

Actually, i like this one...i may retex one of these and reserve the Sovvie for times of war.

Just as long as someone releases the President's Ship, I will be forever happy. 

[Centurus]

*shameless bump*

[GotAFarmYet?]

Now would you look at that?  Now that's a ship worthy to carry on the tradition and honor of the class.  Although FEDERATION is spelled wrong.  No offense.  Just thought I'd point it out.  Oh, any chance of getting my hands on either of these ships, and could they please be for SFC3? 

Think that got fixed awhile ago, Starforce pointed it out, at least the version on my HDD is fixed. As for which ship the president would use, it would probably be a galaxy class. The ship was designed with explorartion and treates in mind and has a larger volume that a solvern, it would be much easier to convert for high profile guests as well.

[Sapharite]

In my opinion even which do not match Chrisies one the presidents ship shouldn't be nor Sovereign nor Galaxy but the Excelsior. I propose the B-Variant. All Admiral's ships were Excelsior A or D variants. In my opinion the UFP President should fly with Excelsior-B variant (Enterprise B like)

Take care

[battlestar001]

I thought if the president went on a dipmoatic mission then he/she would use the current flagship as transport. I liked the look of the Connie. Make a kinda strange sence as it was the most used ship in the fleet but the esign is a little too old prehaps. U going to releasethe sovy and the connie for sfc3?

[Centurus]

I thought if the president went on a dipmoatic mission then he/she would use the current flagship as transport. I liked the look of the Connie. Make a kinda strange sence as it was the most used ship in the fleet but the esign is a little too old prehaps. U going to releasethe sovy and the connie for sfc3?

I see I have someone else on my side.  Please, release any of these versions for SFC3, or better yet, all of them.  :-D

[ModelsPlease]

In my opinion even which do not match Chrisies one the presidents ship shouldn't be nor Sovereign nor Galaxy but the Excelsior. I propose the B-Variant. All Admiral's ships were Excelsior A or D variants. In my opinion the UFP President should fly with Excelsior-B variant (Enterprise B like)

Take care

I have to disagree with you on this one.In "All Good Things" Admiral Riker used the refitted/upgraded Ent D as his ship. And besides we're not talking about a military ship.Though I am no fan of the design,the Olympic Class is a good candidate for the pres ship.But on another note....has anyone ever considered doing a retexture on the stock Pres Liner? Or is the idea here just to get rid of that model ?
-MP

[FoaS_XC]

Okay, here is what i am doing

1) An Olympic retexture. Named "Federation One"

2) A Sovereign retexture. Named "Starfleet One"

[Kaenyne]

Sounds good to me!

[Centurus]

Is it possible to see some pics of the Olympic retexture?

[FoaS_XC]

sure, once i get a good olympic to retex...the one i have isnt that great.

[Centurus]

Well Fury, if I may call you Fury, you do great work.  I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but could it be possible to get my hands on that retextured Sov?  If it is unethical, I understand.  I would just really love to see this ship in game. 

[atheorhaven]

Quickly throwing in my two cents..

I'm a fan of using a Connie or possibly Excelsior personally if we're talking TNG.  The Connie carries on the tradition and history of Federation ships (and the legacy of Kirk et al), with the only drawback being a ship that may not be fast enough or able to fully defend itself against modern attackers.

While the Excelsior also would be a good platform, it is still actively used by Starfleet in a defense role even at the time of DS9/Voyager/Nemesis.  As such, I'd not see it as being as good a choice as the Connie... but it'd still be a good choice for showing the history and tradition of the Federation considering the 80+ years of service by that time.

That'd be my two cents.. and I have two other ideas that I'm going to try and flesh out in two or three ships. 

[battlestar001]

I dout starfleet would allow their presidant to fly off in a ship that could easily be destroyed. The ship they give him would have to be fast, Good combat capabiltys, Good dipmoatic features, and be a symbol of strength. If u take this into accoun then u lose alot of classes like the Arika, excelsior, New orleans and Ambasador. Really ur only left with the Galaxy and the Sovy Which were both buit for deep space exploration and Defanceive duties. And the sovy has the turning circle of a ship 1/4 its size. As well as being the most advanced class in the fleet.