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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2004, 12:18:58 pm »
nice ships cant wait to see them


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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2004, 12:26:01 pm »
remember to thank teradyne for converting them from KA to sfc and to theorhaven for doing the illum maps and what not.

without them, this would not be possible. :)
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2004, 03:45:30 pm »
nice ships cant wait to see them


Actually, I'm readjusting the DN.. you can easily see why in this pic:



See that great big dark area behind the nice dividing line on the front?  That's what I'm working to correct today/tonight.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2004, 04:27:06 pm »
Thanks Tetradune, and everyone else. Those ships Look great. I can hardly wait.

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2004, 06:40:38 pm »
Always the perfectionsit Atheorhaven!

The "ShakurianFF" I asked to have rescaled should actually be scaled to 30 meters per the KA website. SFC: OP could use another fighter/bomber for the fighterlist ;)

Thanks for your attention to detail Atheorhaven on all the fine work you do for the community.

Thanks again to Terradyhne, Nannerslug, Atheorhaven and everybody else making these ships possible for SFC.

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2004, 12:41:25 am »
This is why I did it.. :)  It's better now.. ;)






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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2004, 03:38:40 am »
I like these... very nice ;D

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2004, 04:30:38 am »
i got this sended to me from an unknown mail, with coresponce of some other people and got this redone DN to and must say those antennas should not lit in my opinion but if you guys like it that way, i only converted them, those are originally Interplay meshes and i don't have to say what you guys could do or not with them



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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2004, 08:29:06 am »
i got this sended to me from an unknown mail, with coresponce of some other people and got this redone DN to and must say those antennas should not lit in my opinion but if you guys like it that way, i only converted them, those are originally Interplay meshes and i don't have to say what you guys could do or not with them

The unknown email address was from me.. that was my home ISP account.  :)  And the people corresponding were me, Nanner, and KF.  That is the nice thing about this community, you can share ideas, do requests, and collabarate to get ideas meshed out and in a good final form.  :D

Nanner and I have done this on a number of ships in the past, KF and I have done so on a few in the past, and I've done so with other people too.  It's kind of neat to get things done like that.. immediate feedback is awesome when you're working on a project.

This is still open to input.. if you think the antenna shouldn't be lit.. it's easy to fix.  I'll see what Nanner and KF feel as well, and we'll do this democratically.  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2004, 08:34:06 am »
These puppys look a bit hard, theyve obviusly had there minerals.

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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2004, 09:03:13 am »
I like the new lighting and I am in favor of keeping it on the DN. The bomber is about the size of a PF but I can live with it.

The Sha' Kurians, like other Trek races would have refits and upgrades so I have absolutely no complaints.

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2004, 10:28:39 am »
I like the new lighting and I am in favor of keeping it on the DN. The bomber is about the size of a PF but I can live with it.
The Sha' Kurians, like other Trek races would have refits and upgrades so I have absolutely no complaints.
Thank you so much for sharing these fine KA ships with us.
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Actually, I scaled the bomber to the requested 30m for you.  Used the Starfury I have (which correctly scaled is at 15m) and scaled it up 200% to reach the 30m size.  Then I actually scaled the FF up just a bit more because it still looked too small, so you're probably looking closer to 40m right now length-wise right now.  I can bump it up a bit more though if you'd like, maybe an additional 25%?

And what do you think?  Antennas lit yes/no?
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2004, 10:50:59 am »
Um, this is all good, I like what you've all done, but I have one question, for the last Tholian DN screenshot...

...Could custom textures become available for it?  Because the normal hull damage textures, like for Klinks and Feds, is a bit unrealistic in how I see it, the hull is an unknown crystal-like alloy that is stronger than Gorn hull, and if it was damaged, I figured it'd look like chipped-off diamoned or something like that, in the color of the hull of course... Wouldn't it be like that?

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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2004, 10:53:50 am »
leave them as is i think. doesnt bother me a bit! :)
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2004, 10:57:29 am »
I guess it bothers me because when I think of Tholians I don't think of your average race, your average weapons, average damage textures... *shrug* :)

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2004, 11:07:43 am »
chris, my reply was to the annetnne.. :)
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2004, 11:20:41 am »
 ;D BUMP to the top. Its not everyday we see cool adversary ships released that were from other Trek games.

Keep the new lighting Atheorhaven, it looks great. Thanks again your rescaling is PERFECT and I should have written than instead of the above comment.  Thanks a million.

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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2004, 02:51:03 pm »
chris, my reply was to the annetnne.. :)

Geez, I feel stupid now. *hits head* lol

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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2004, 04:35:26 pm »
BUMP

Here's a collage of recent screenshots from SFC: OP with Sha' Kurian mercenaries being used to fill in the Syndicate Pirate Cartel's carrier slots...



http://klingonfanatic.20m.com/images/sha_kurian_patrol.jpg

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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2004, 07:41:37 am »
they almost have a b5 flavor to them, very cool looking ships.

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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2004, 10:53:30 am »
In case people were wondering how I would handle the Sha'Kurians, here's a sample of the text I've written for them for their light cruiser:


Class: Light Cruiser (CL)
Like all large Sha'Kurian vessels, this class was once a carrier of fighters.  After taking in the Seltorians that were fleeing from their defeat at the Klingons and Tholians, the Sha'Kurians gave up their fighters and support systems in favor of upgrading their warships with advanced weapons.  At over five hundred meters in length, it is quite large for a light cruiser and is double the size of the Garnet-class of their new chief rivals, the Tholians.  Some Klingon observers have quipped that all this ship would have to do is to turn sharply in order to destroy a Tholian ship.


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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2004, 12:15:53 pm »
In case people were wondering how I would handle the Sha'Kurians, here's a sample of the text I've written for them for their light cruiser:


Class: Light Cruiser (CL)
Like all large Sha'Kurian vessels, this class was once a carrier of fighters.  After taking in the Seltorians that were fleeing from their defeat [at the hands of both the] Klingons and Tholians, the Sha'Kurians gave up their fighters and support systems in favor of upgrading their warships with [more] advanced weapons.  At over five hundred meters in length, it is quite large for a light cruiser and is double the size of the Garnet-class of their new chief rivals, the Tholians.  Some Klingon observers have quipped that all this ship would have to do is to turn sharply in order to destroy a Tholian ship.


Sorry, I have to cheer for the Tholians. ;) Nice "falvor text" though, VERY original.

I myself have been using WZ45s "headings" and inserting excerpts on specific ships from websites like Klingon Academy and the various FASA Trek websites I frequent.

I'd love to get  a copy of your SFC3 defaultCore and DefaultCoreLoadout Ratboy.

BTW: is there any way to completely remove from SFC3 ALL the TNG ships and replace them with comparable ships from other eras? For Example: Replace the  Galaxy with the Ulysses, F'klhr with Riskadh, etc... I am one of many that want a COMPLETELY TMP mod that would include the Sha' Kurians maybe somebody should make a Klingon Academy to SFC3 mod and replace the Borg with Andromedans...

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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2004, 12:17:45 pm »
That's very nice. I can't wait until you release 2.0!

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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2004, 02:46:21 pm »
Sorry, I have to cheer for the Tholians. ;) Nice "falvor text" though, VERY original.

Tholians, you say?

Class: Heavy Cruiser (CA)
The first cruiser-sized Tholian vessel ever seen by outsiders, this is code-named the Ruby-class by Starfleet.  It was first encountered in the late 2270s.  More powerful than the Quartz and Garnet-classes, these ships can still be found stationed along the jealously guarded borders of the Tholian Assembly, ready to attack any large vessels that stray too close.  Several Rubies were part of a force that attacked Starfleet and Romulan forces roaming in the Devolin asteroid belt in 2310.  In 2355, Starfleet Cadet William T. Riker discovered a sensory blind spot in this class of vessel that allowed him to ambush one in a simulation.


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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2004, 03:43:59 pm »
In case people were wondering how I would handle the Sha'Kurians, here's a sample of the text I've written for them for their light cruiser:


Class: Light Cruiser (CL)
Like all large Sha'Kurian vessels, this class was once a carrier of fighters.  After taking in the Seltorians that were fleeing from their defeat at the Klingons and Tholians, the Sha'Kurians gave up their fighters and support systems in favor of upgrading their warships with advanced weapons.  At over five hundred meters in length, it is quite large for a light cruiser and is double the size of the Garnet-class of their new chief rivals, the Tholians.  Some Klingon observers have quipped that all this ship would have to do is to turn sharply in order to destroy a Tholian ship.

I thought the Seltorians were actually beaten by the ISC and were infact completely wiped out - the ones in our galaxy that is, good riddance IMO - who actually plays Seltorians in SFB?Oh and I would have thought the Sha'Kurians wouldn't be as stupid as the Klingons to take in a race of really really fast breeding giant cockroaches, I'd have thought they'd just turn them away meself.
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2004, 05:53:14 pm »
SFC, not SFB, remember?  In SFC2, the ISC was beaten by the combined might of all the other powers.  I doubt they found the time to commit genocide when they had to go on the defensive.

Also, do you know what giant, fast-breeding cockroaches are good for?  Slaves, or some such.


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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2004, 08:11:16 pm »
A few may be good for slaves but they overran several Klingon worlds, I wouldn't trust 'em, I'd just open fire but ehy, I'm not  a Sha'Kurian. Oh and does SFC2 end in defeat no matter which campaign you play? As far as I'm aware it's not got an official 'ending' as such so you've just chosen the galactic powers campaign to base your history rather than the ISC campaign, where I'd imagine they win. Ofcourse in SFB nobody won, they got as far as the Lyrans but then the Andromedans arrived in that timeline.
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2004, 10:41:21 pm »
but ehy, I'm not  a Sha'Kurian.


Maybe bugs are part of a balanced diet.

Well, since for several reasons we couldn't use the Selts, but we needed something to throw at the Tholians, I decided to try and merge the Shaks and the Selts somehow.  Considering how both the Tholians and the Klingons were out for a lot of bug blood and how much whizzbang tech they were willing to hand over to the Shaks in exchange for sanctuary, plus the fact that a lot of the Sha'Kurian clan elders wanted something to rally the people against, the pairing seemed natural.


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I picked the non-ISC ending, if only because I needed to select something that would protect the Trek timeline.  One would think an event like getting your butt kicked in a major war would have been mentioned on an episode of TNG.   ;D


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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2004, 12:23:13 am »
yes kf, you can.. its called using the era selector with the generations at war mod for sfc3. :)

enjoy.

what you are seeing is what RB is working on for the 2.0 release. :D

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