Topic: Gentlemen, I need your help. Someone is stealing my work and the name OP+.

[Kroma BaSyl]

But I like to prattle! But if you insist...

I'll tell ya what, keep Piggy in his basement away from me and ya have a deal

No deal!

Damn! Looks like that greased pig escaped again. Appearently he worked the ball gag out too.

[Age]

See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.

Ding ding. And not only that his posts are mostly unintelligible. I don't even read them because I usually can't understand what he's saying - and when I can, they make me laugh.

I mean, I can understand clueless, but how hard is it to construct a coherent train of thought?

My posts are coherent because most of the time I am not joking around on the Tri Mod forums they make perfect sense it is you possibly.Maybe you need classes or lay off the sauce and I use my Internet Explorer spell checker as well not the one in here.I can look up all the meaning of the words with mine.When I am on a server I stand by and watch you get eating up by Klinks and Lyrans.

[Kroma BaSyl]

My posts are coherent because most of the time I am not joking around on the Tri Mod forums they make perfect sense it is you possibly.Maybe you need classes or lay off the sauce and I use my Internet Explorer spell checker as well not the one in here.I can look up all the meaning of the words with mine.When I am on a server I stand by and watch you get eating up by Klinks and Lyrans.

Well I guess you proved him wrong.

[Age]

Ahhh Age Bashing... one of my few hobbies on this board

OK Age in the interest of keeping you around (and I would prefer you stay around and start to play)

I will say this about you.That you almost drove me away from the Taldren Boards although I am only one

Assuming you mean Dizzy.. ignore him. he likes to have his name show up but he's in the "has been" category
If you mean someone else- get used to it, everyone critiques everyone here..

.It would seems to me that D2 is lacking players.This goes to everyone although I am not that important around here considering you all joke at my postings and don't take me seriously and most of the time I am being serious.I get tired of explaining things out when I now I right and others joke about it.If you take that BCH debate it is thing like that I was being serious

See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
-When defending the BCE -you mentioned it "could fly speed 38.8, enough to outrun any plasma etc etc"
You put forth the idea that everyone playing this game for x years + had all this time been reading how fast the ships flew wrong. That we should actually look at the energy panel to see how fast they were going.
- You posted that you're own "modified" D7L was a great ship -well duh, my modded CWLP kicks ass as well- but no one will ever let it on in mulitplayer.
-All of your posts are that you can defeat the AI using tactic X etc,.
Everyone can beat the Ai (well except for J'inn... and I think I remember DH crying about it on TS one night)
Anytime ships are compared/tactics are asked for or discussed it's about PvP.
 So I'm sure it sounds rude -and I don't really mean it to be- but no one cares about how you beat a CCZ with a CWLP in 30  minutes or so against the AI (should take about 5-6 minutes btw)
Beat a CCZ with a CWLP in a PvP (taking as long as you want) and everyone will listen to you.

To (kinda) sum up- stop posting tactics or opinions you've decided are ritght about the game based on playing against the AI. (ex)-the BCE is perhaps the worst BCH in the game, doesn't mean you can't like it, doesn't mean you can't have fun flying it. But really you'll have more fun if you get online, listen to what advice your fleetmates can offer and go learn these things for yourself.

-And stop posting about how hot it is so that you can't play, unless you're living in the Danakil Depression , it's not to hot to play... 

.I am not a joker unless it come down to practical ones.The one debate I keep getting into is that SFB is a exaggeration of Star Trek.This is enough said.If you want expand your player base start listening and knock off the jokes.

Again listen to what? _It may sound harsh, but offer us something woth listening to and I think you'll find an attentive audience.. offer eroneous information and misconstrued ideas concerning the game and you're not going to get very far. Ask questions. it's good for you.

What do you mean by Fleetmates my only Fleet mate is not in here that much if you care to see what Fleet I am it is on my sig?I have had read several postings in the past and on any given night you are usually going up against an AI as L1 used to say.The main reason I am not online playing yet is because I am on a shared Internet Service Provider.I need to get set up first which I am fully not.I need a few things done to my comp. as well.I hope this answers your question and btw when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.What is a Dynakil Depression?

[Dizzy]

PLEASE, age, let me know when u get access. I would LOVE to be there when we... initiate you... MuHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA~!!!!~~~!!!!!!

::scurries off to find all of age's old tactical post guidlines and suggestions on PvP tactics::

[_SSCF_Hooch]

She was just sick of our constant reactionary abrasiveness I imagine, and IMO she handled it fine. Everyone please lay off her.

LeRoy you aren't helping matters by prattling on. Just let it rest already.

Prattling? Geeeeish, what a girly man word...

[Mog]

Ahhh Age Bashing... one of my few hobbies on this board

OK Age in the interest of keeping you around (and I would prefer you stay around and start to play)

I will say this about you.That you almost drove me away from the Taldren Boards although I am only one

Assuming you mean Dizzy.. ignore him. he likes to have his name show up but he's in the "has been" category
If you mean someone else- get used to it, everyone critiques everyone here..

.It would seems to me that D2 is lacking players.This goes to everyone although I am not that important around here considering you all joke at my postings and don't take me seriously and most of the time I am being serious.I get tired of explaining things out when I now I right and others joke about it.If you take that BCH debate it is thing like that I was being serious

See here's the problem with your BCH posts -and it kinda (well replace kinda with absolutely) has a link to your other posts as well.
You have NO idea what you'r talking about and <usually> don't bother to ask.
-When defending the BCE -you mentioned it "could fly speed 38.8, enough to outrun any plasma etc etc"
You put forth the idea that everyone playing this game for x years + had all this time been reading how fast the ships flew wrong. That we should actually look at the energy panel to see how fast they were going.
- You posted that you're own "modified" D7L was a great ship -well duh, my modded CWLP kicks ass as well- but no one will ever let it on in mulitplayer.
-All of your posts are that you can defeat the AI using tactic X etc,.
Everyone can beat the Ai (well except for J'inn... and I think I remember DH crying about it on TS one night)
Anytime ships are compared/tactics are asked for or discussed it's about PvP.
 So I'm sure it sounds rude -and I don't really mean it to be- but no one cares about how you beat a CCZ with a CWLP in 30  minutes or so against the AI (should take about 5-6 minutes btw)
Beat a CCZ with a CWLP in a PvP (taking as long as you want) and everyone will listen to you.

To (kinda) sum up- stop posting tactics or opinions you've decided are ritght about the game based on playing against the AI. (ex)-the BCE is perhaps the worst BCH in the game, doesn't mean you can't like it, doesn't mean you can't have fun flying it. But really you'll have more fun if you get online, listen to what advice your fleetmates can offer and go learn these things for yourself.

-And stop posting about how hot it is so that you can't play, unless you're living in the Danakil Depression , it's not to hot to play... 

.I am not a joker unless it come down to practical ones.The one debate I keep getting into is that SFB is a exaggeration of Star Trek.This is enough said.If you want expand your player base start listening and knock off the jokes.

Again listen to what? _It may sound harsh, but offer us something woth listening to and I think you'll find an attentive audience.. offer eroneous information and misconstrued ideas concerning the game and you're not going to get very far. Ask questions. it's good for you.

What do you mean by Fleetmates my only Fleet mate is not in here that much if you care to see what Fleet I am it is on my sig?I have had read several postings in the past and on any given night you are usually going up against an AI as L1 used to say.The main reason I am not online playing yet is because I am on a shared Internet Service Provider.I need to get set up first which I am fully not.I need a few things done to my comp. as well.I hope this answers your question and btw when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.What is a Dynakil Depression?

Thanks Age, you have me giggling here (yes I'm stoned and found this highly amusing) 

[SSCF-LeRoy]

when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.

May I suggest you fly the D5D then? That would require you to fly Klink and I wouldn't wish that fait upon anyone...

However, if you insist to go down the droner path, the D5D is pretty much the only drone boat that has a chance to prevail in PvP, albeit slim, but it can be done. DieHard knows what I'm talkin' about. Don'tcha, DieHard?

[FPF-DieHard]

[quote author=SSCF-LeRoy link=topic=163343832.msg1122408438#msg1122408438
However, if you insist to go down the droner path, the D5D is pretty much the only drone boat that has a chance to prevail in PvP, albeit slim, but it can be done. DieHard knows what I'm talkin' about. Don'tcha, DieHard?

Bastard kills me once in training and he gets all upitiy.   Children these days . . .

[SSCF-LeRoy]

However, if you insist to go down the droner path, the D5D is pretty much the only drone boat that has a chance to prevail in PvP, albeit slim, but it can be done. DieHard knows what I'm talkin' about. Don'tcha, DieHard?

Bastard kills me once in training and he gets all upitiy.   Children these days . . .

And then there was that incident with you, me, and an asteroid the night before last...

<snicker>

[Soreyes]

when I do get online look a nice droner ship to come after you with type 4 drones.

May I suggest you fly the D5D then? That would require you to fly Klink and I wouldn't wish that fait upon anyone...

However, if you insist to go down the droner path, the D5D is pretty much the only drone boat that has a chance to prevail in PvP, albeit slim, but it can be done. DieHard knows what I'm talkin' about. Don'tcha, DieHard?

May I suggest the Z- HDW1     4 B-racks, 2 C-Racks, 2 ADD, 2 Disr, 4 Ph-1s, 2 phas-3s, 3 shuttles, 2 Masif III Ftrs    You can run around at speed 31 with 4 ECM, and still charge all your weapons

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

One suggestion for KIm i got though, read slowly and carefully the  chatt logs Firesoul posted.

I read those, several days back.  In them the representative of the accused promised Firesoul that the name-use was due to misunderstanding about what Firesoul's "permission to use" meant, and they agreed to respect his wishes and not use the name OP+.

Now I come here and find this thread.  (Wow, you miss all the hot stuff when you have a busy day and don't check every thread.)

If they'd already agreed not to use the name, what was the issue?  Did I miss something?  Did the accused write back and say, "screw what my friend says; I'm using your name and you can't stop me?"  I don't know.  I never went to his forum.  Maybe he *did* do that.  But if his organization had already agreed not to use the name OP+, what was the need for a flame campaign?

-S'Cipio  

Exactly Scipio 

Unfortunately some people just delight in flaming for its own sake instead of being constructive.

[FPF-DieHard]

In defense of the flamers, a history does exist between many of them and Morpheous that we are not aware of.

Let's keep this in mind before passing judgement

[Evil Kraven]

yup, exactly right die hard. as I stated in my previous post, without the calling on the carpet, and ripping him to shreds, Princess morphous would have done what princess morphous wanted to do. reguardless of anyone else.

what I really can't understand. is how anyone involoved in a communtiy is willing to show tolerence to a thief.

its not the hitting of his board that bothered him, or the ripping he got on d2 boards. its the ripping he got in the GSA lobby that put him on his knees. thats where he got hurt the most.

come on now, he sent out a fricken spam mail about OPPLUS 4.0

said it had the backing of fire soul (which it did not,and misunderstanding my ass. he got caught plain and simple) and was spamming the gsa lobby with it.

yeah the horse is dead I agree, why keep beating on it right?

well everyone wants to get thier two cents in maybe?

"The Evil One"
Kraven

[KAT Chuut-Ritt]

I understand, however, that past history was not on these forums.

Now to calmly state what such a past history was in order to inform folks here and to warn us about such individuals is perfectly fine IMHO.  But to bring a free for all flame fest full of personal attacks doesn't seem to be in our best interest.  About a year ago I posted a petition on Taldren where many if not most of our members signed on in opposition to such personal attacks.  Criticism of a persons actions is one thing, but a personal attack is another no matter how well deserved.

I don't mind people having grudges and past history, etc., but lets settle them calmly, rationally, and with a certain civility......and if we can't do that lets at least confine our remarks to the issues and not into the realm of vulgarity (except in the case of Kroma and Likkerpig of course )  There are forums other than these where such things might be viewed as acceptable but I don't think they are here, at least not by a significant portion of our community.  I put up my poll to check the facts on this before posting this response and it seems to support my views as of this time.  The former anti-personal attack petition seems to still hold the appeal it did when I origionally put it up and most of you signed on, so lets try to honor and preserve it as was agreed to by those who signed.

[Laflin]

Can anyone here remember just playing the game to have fun with some people that you barely knew?  Those days seem to be going - tell me things haven't changed

[Evil Kraven]

chutt,

while I agree with you that personal attacks 95% of the time do no good and only cause animosity. there are that slim 5% where yeah not only is it warrented, but its needed to keep people from shoveing it.....well you know where. this just happend to be one of those 5% deals.

his personal history needed not be on these boards chutt. read the chat logs between fire soul and WGL. the one with morphous alone should tell you what kind of a individual he is, and he had all intention of continueing to use the name untill he got leveled.

I fully agree with you though. flaming gets you no where. unless its on those........ok lets say 1%.

sure I've seen some passionate issues here and on the taldren boards. thats a good thing. shows passion for a game and that people care. but yeah it is just a game and its alot of fun.

at the same time there will be those who try to do things with the favorite line "for the better of the community" when its really about thier own agenda. and when, as in this case, theft....not a "misunderstanding" mind you, but theft.....the community needs to rise up and say "no this is wrong and we will not stand for it......and in doing so it is not for our own agenda, but for the betterment of the community.

I seriously doubt anyone will try to steal someone elses work agian........
look at what happend .......

I don't think myself that I flamed the sh*t out of him. but I called a spade a spade. so did alot of others. this flame was needed for the good of the community. it drew alot of us together. ok kim was'nt to happy, oh well, don't read the posts if its gonna get you upset. I suggest kim stay away from contraverseal, or passionate topics in the future.

 if it looks like a duck....quacks like a duck.....walks like a duck....
drinks scotch like a duck......well you can pretty much say its.....

KHH Shadowlord

LOL

chocolate chip cookie anyone?

"The Evil One"
Kraven

re read ur post: hey you know what I'll sign on to that. I can rip someone without useing volgarity. but isn't your post attacking flamers? lol

[Mazeppa]

I understand, however, that past history was not on these forums.

Now to calmly state what such a past history was in order to inform folks here and to warn us about such individuals is perfectly fine IMHO.  But to bring a free for all flame fest full of personal attacks doesn't seem to be in our best interest.  About a year ago I posted a petition on Taldren where many if not most of our members signed on in opposition to such personal attacks.  Criticism of a persons actions is one thing, but a personal attack is another no matter how well deserved.

Here is the problem with the past history issues.  Morpheous is a ladder player.  The ladder/league players have their own forums, and those forums are NOT usually the D2 forums on Taldren or ANY forums on Dynaverse.net.  Those forums are on WGL or GZ.

KHH and GDA pilots are probably two of the very few fleets that participate in GSA (In the GZ League) and the Dynaverse.  I do not know of ANY WGL players exceppt maybe Damaged666 that is a Dynaverse and WGL player. 

So, when Firesoul posts his concerns on this forum, it does not matter.  people had to go to the place where the WGL was....GSA.

If you want to see what kind of person Morpheous is, see his response to KRollings very, very polite post on the WGL forums:

http://wgleague.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mod;action=display;num=1090277409

[Green]

I understand, however, that past history was not on these forums.

Now to calmly state what such a past history was in order to inform folks here and to warn us about such individuals is perfectly fine IMHO.  But to bring a free for all flame fest full of personal attacks doesn't seem to be in our best interest.  About a year ago I posted a petition on Taldren where many if not most of our members signed on in opposition to such personal attacks.  Criticism of a persons actions is one thing, but a personal attack is another no matter how well deserved.

Here is the problem with the past history issues.  Morpheous is a ladder player.  The ladder/league players have their own forums, and those forums are NOT usually the D2 forums on Taldren or ANY forums on Dynaverse.net.  Those forums are on WGL or GZ.

KHH and GDA pilots are probably two of the very few fleets that participate in GSA (In the GZ League) and the Dynaverse.  I do not know of ANY WGL players exceppt maybe Damaged666 that is a Dynaverse and WGL player. 

So, when Firesoul posts his concerns on this forum, it does not matter.  people had to go to the place where the WGL was....GSA.

If you want to see what kind of person Morpheous is, see his response to KRollings very, very polite post on the WGL forums:

http://wgleague.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mod;action=display;num=1090277409

He really wasn't doing bad in his response until he had to post the last paragraph...

You people on the Dynaverse.net can choke on your own pride for I care and instead of thinking of the just a name of something look at the bigger picture of the community trying to save the gaming lobby.

Thanks for pointing it out Maz. 

[Slider]

On Firesoul:
The issue was what corporate suits call "Branding"

Firesoul has not copyright in fact the material he uses is probably Armadillo's. However the name "OP+" is his Brand and as a matter of repect should honored by everyone.

Now if someone wants to build on it they he allows them too and they can mention that in a Readme.txt file saying "this add-on is built using OP+ as a foundation, thank you Firesoul".

On GSA guys,Dyna Guys and Morph/WGL:
Comminity is getting smaller we have reached out to our brothers and our brothers have reached out to us.

Players, NOT GZ or Dyna, went after Mr. Morph. they went after him because he tapped into a Brand that did not belong to him, further his replies were antagonistic and defiant. He made false claims that caused him to further lose respect.

As a frequent forum poster of political view points I follow this saying like the Bible:

When you have the Law, argue the Law.
When you have the Facts argue the Facts.
When you have neither, call people names, lie, and argue pointlessly.

I think we know where Morph ended up on this scale.

Further, not than anyone cares, Morph claims to want to unify, yet it was him and his team that caused the very visible split that finally gave him EAW and GZ happily went to OP.
Now after they have lost EAW they come to OP to "unify us.

I think not.

I think whats amazng is that 2 communities Backed -up Firesoul...THATS Cool for the internet.

On Rollings and Jakle:
1.jakle had no way of knowing she was on the verge of quiting.

2.If your going to talk in public you have to have thick skin. I assure you Morph DID NOT change the name cause Rollings asked nicely. He changed it cause he was getting backlash from the very people he's trying to attract, period.

***On the Role playing side.....if you mess with Jakle then you mess with me, We Klingons will stick together even if we then kill each other afterward. No that Jakle will accpt my assitance but I'll fight anyway. So bring it on.

See yo on the spaceways Cowboys.

Onward!

Slider aka Legendary