Topic: Someone is stealing the name and idea OP+ from me! (Read 19343 times)

FireSoul · « **on:** July 18, 2004, 08:51:43 pm »

Everybody, read this!

http://wgleague.com/opplus4.0.html

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<Googlebut> With the full backing of the creator of the OPPLUS 3.3, WGL introduces the OPPLUS 4.0 !!! Adds 7 New Competitive Races to your Orion Pirates. Downloads are available at http://www.wgleague.com . A forum area has been created for Q&A's just click on FORUMS.
<Googlebut> Model Files has their own folder and will not over write any Models you presently have..

You can use my work, BUT DON'T STEAL MY IDEAS! Call it something else. These guys contacted me to try to join their 'thing' and I said no. I was quoted that people can use OP+ as they see fit. But to STEAL MY WORK AND MAKE IT THEIR OWN?!!

.. well.
There's not going to be any more anything from me until they back off. OP+ is my reputation.

-- Luc
FireSoul

FireSoul · « **Reply #1 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:02:55 pm »

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Googlebut (07/18/04 21:51 PM)
      hey man, we had a guy talk to u last night
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:51 PM)
      and he said you said it was ok to do so
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:51 PM)
      misunderstanding I suppose
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:51 PM)
      his name was Andi
FireSoul (07/18/04 21:51 PM)
      Well Andi can go **** himself. the OP+ name is recognized, and you just stole it.
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:51 PM)
      goes by the MSN callsign of Skeletor Sausage
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:52 PM)
      look bro you don't need to get defensive
FireSoul (07/18/04 21:52 PM)
      Call it something else. understood?
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:52 PM)
      it can be taken off
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:52 PM)
      sure
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:52 PM)
      I can't do much about the host as he's afk but I'll be sure not to pass it around until we can get it fixed
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:52 PM)
      sorry about the misunderstanding
FireSoul (07/18/04 21:53 PM)
      I told them that they could do whatever they want with OP+. .. But taking the name crosses the line.
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:54 PM)
      besides we weren't stealing your reputation infact we gave you credit for the work you did on the 3.3 all over as to where were advertising it, but in any case
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:54 PM)
      the message is clear and it was a misunderstanding
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:54 PM)
      we'll get it fixed
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:54 PM)
      sorry about the porblem
FireSoul (07/18/04 21:55 PM)
      I'll log off. I'm screaming pissed and no need to expose more to it. Later.
Googlebut (07/18/04 21:55 PM)
      when we hand out our new version we'll make sure to advertise that the previous version was not affiliated with the OPplus ship name, we'll get that cleaned up for you so there's no misunderstanding in the long run

That's not good enough because I'm going to continue to make OP+ projects with version increases. Call it something else.

FireSoul · « **Reply #2 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:11:23 pm »

They'll clean it up, I've been told.

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Googlebut (07/18/04 22:05 PM)
look firesoul I am sorry this confusion happened but we'll make sure to clean it up and leave the name you created alone

FireSoul (07/18/04 22:06 PM)
thank you.

Bonk · « **Reply #3 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:13:49 pm »

Glad to hear it. (I was getting worried)

How about WG-OP 1.0? (makes sense to me).

FireSoul · « **Reply #4 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:20:49 pm »

Quote from: Bonk on July 18, 2004, 09:13:49 pm

Glad to hear it. (I was getting worried)

How about WG-OP 1.0? (makes sense to me).

They can call it whatever they want,.. and still use everything I've done. But I refuse to let them take the identity of the work along with the reputation.

Bonk · « **Reply #5 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:37:12 pm »

Understandably so.

E_Look · « **Reply #6 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:39:40 pm »

Good to see you stand your ground.

This is more common than anybody realizes.

A famous (well, to my world, anyway) researcher many years back published an intentionally incorrect fact. Many others jumped on it and tried to reproduce it and call it their own. Obviously, it didn't work. Then, a little later he published a "correction" after he was able to do it more safely.

Lots of backroom backstabbing baloney... everywhere.

I hope your case gets a tad more publicity and thus become a bit of a deterrence. I hate thieves, too.

And, it's mighty big of you to still be so generous with your work, even after all that.

FireSoul · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2004, 09:50:46 pm »

.. besides.. the idea of OP+ is to play with a mod that doesn't remove anything Taldren has made (unless it's a correction). Additions have to come from official ADB material, preferably printed as an actual module for SFB.

With the mod presented here has 7 pirate races removed and replaced, and it's not based on SFB material, such as Cardassian ships and other such things. It's just not the same.

KBF-Crim · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2004, 11:44:44 pm »

Shew...glad you got it worked out...

Age · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2004, 11:46:34 pm »

I would say that most OP players will recognize your work and OP+ any time.I would say that most people would come to your defense but you solved it which will make you rest easy.It a shame that someone would do this though and you can't even get an international copyright on it.

FireSoul · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2004, 03:24:51 pm »

interesting link..

http://wgleague.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mod

Why don't we all go give our opinion of this matter?

Bonk · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2004, 03:32:55 pm »

I would avoid linking his site in future, it appears as there are ads on it that may be paying him for every view?

I say just wait to see if he changes the name of his mod, if not - hit him where it hurts...

Age · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2004, 04:24:57 pm »

Quote from: FireSoul on July 19, 2004, 03:24:51 pm

interesting link..

http://wgleague.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mod

Why don't we all go give our opinion of this matter?

The site is down and I tried twice in the D2 forum.You might want to talk to Strat about this as he is a member of gz.league if that is the same as wg.league.I would check out his mod chooser as well to see if OP+ is yours.

FireSoul · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2004, 04:47:09 pm »

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WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      join me on teamspeak
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      do you have it?
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      leav eme alone.
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      dude we either talk or we dont change the name
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      your choice
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      change the name.
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      2- leave me alone.
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:27 PM)
      like I said
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      when the last time you did anything for this community?
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      WHAT?
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      1 year back
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      WHAAT?
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      not GZ
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      for the community
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      I've been doing stuff almost nightly.
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:28 PM)
      Where've you been?
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:29 PM)
      I been here
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:29 PM)
      whats did you do new latly
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:29 PM)
      change the name. Use something else.
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:29 PM)
      or is that why there is only 17 people here
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:30 PM)
      you guys need to get a grip
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:30 PM)
      a dieing communtiy
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:30 PM)
      and all you want to do is bicker about the name
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:30 PM)
      you will CHANGE the name.
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:30 PM)
      No I wont
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:30 PM)
      and nothing you do will make me
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:31 PM)
      obviously not.
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:31 PM)
      first time dealing with me I see
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:31 PM)
      go back to your GZ bud and stay in hibernation
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:34 PM)
      if you had a better attitude when you approached google I may have changed it
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:34 PM)
      but you where being a ***
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:35 PM)
      and all about yourself not the commuinty
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:35 PM)
      Change the name. I gave you permission to use any and all of the mod, but you took the reputation and identity of my work on top of that. You don't have my support for that. Change the name.
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:37 PM)
      Sorry bud until you relize that the 3.3 hasnt change in the Mod the better off you will be
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:37 PM)
      plus I did need your permission
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:37 PM)
      did,'t
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:37 PM)
      didn't
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:37 PM)
      need your permiission

(etc..)

FireSoul · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2004, 04:50:09 pm »

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WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:42 PM)
      you modified the original shiplist and named it for yourself
FireSoul (07/19/04 17:42 PM)
      and created a new name for it.
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:43 PM)
      shiplist is a text file dude
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:43 PM)
      maybe next time you will spend the money and get a copyright
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:43 PM)
      or maybe I will do it
WGL-Morpheous-[RIG] (07/19/04 17:44 PM)
      then I will actual steal it like you say I am

FireSoul · « **Reply #15 on:** July 19, 2004, 05:38:57 pm »

I've been accused of not producing anything for over a year....

Let me tell you...... that in this year, 2004 alone, ...

1- OPPLUS
OP+ 3.2: 20040116
OP+ 3.3: 20040512
.. next OP+: in progress.

2- scripts:
Fests+_11.exe - 20040228
Coopace: has an update coming. Been working on it all last week.
SFC:OP Models Tester 1.23 - 20040627

3- Models:
NUMEROUS models.. all the Fed NCAs and NCLs you see in OP+ and many many
others.. as well as an entire review of each and every model in OP+ 3.2
for OP+ 3.3. etc! many in 2004.

Ultimately, his OPPLUS version 4.0 is a perversion of my works, as well as a violation of my reputation and my identity. It must change its name to something else than OPPLUS and stop saying that it's trying to emulate my work. It's definitely not:

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The only part of the OP+ 3.3 that was modified for this MOD
was the 7 Orion Cartels. Those cartels where changed to
incorperate the 7 New races.

Bellow are the list of the New races:

Dominion
Andromedians
Cardassian
Kazon
Species8472
Cylons
MaQuis

-- Luc

FA Frey XC · « **Reply #16 on:** July 19, 2004, 06:07:23 pm »

IS this the same RIG Morpheous that used to be a part of GT?

I wonder... because it would be just like him to try and make a name off someone elses hard work.

Besides, FireSoul - intellectual property right laws are all on your side. He has admitted he is "stealing" it already - your chat transcript shows that clearly. Formally notify him via the technical contact for the website listed in DNS and then if they do not remove it I'll put you in contact with a Lawyer that LOVES to sue for Intellectual Property Rights theft.

I will be making the necessary posts on the XC Website, XC forums and in D.Net letting everyone know if they are using said V4 then they are contributing to Intellectual property theft.

It's too bad for every bad apple that we toss out of here, another seems to appear to take it's place. Rest assured, RIG Morpheous will be found wanting. He didn't live up to all his smack talk when myself and the rest of XC told him to put up or shut up. I doubt he will now.

The man has no honor.

Regards,

Javora · « **Reply #17 on:** July 19, 2004, 06:09:47 pm »

I don't know who this Morpheous person is but with an attitude like that I will never download anything from them. Anyway if our community is "dying" then why does Morpheous care anything about this anyway? What does Morpheous think his precious little mod going is going to bring back Taldren and Interplay and have SFC OP flying off the shelves like a game has never sold before??!? If anything this Id10t is just going to split the community and bring down SFC even faster.

Katherine · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2004, 06:10:49 pm »

ohh my

SSCF-Rolling · « **Reply #19 on:** July 19, 2004, 06:14:37 pm »

I want everyone to stay calm.

If you are going to post, then post like intellectuals, not like cave men.

Cool heads and understanding will get us farther on this matter.

Thanks.

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