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Given an absolutely free choice which BCH would you fly?

Fed (any)
4 (9.5%)
Klingon
6 (14.3%)
Rommie (any)
8 (19%)
Hydran
2 (4.8%)
Kzinti
2 (4.8%)
ISC (any)
11 (26.2%)
Gorn
1 (2.4%)
Lyran
8 (19%)

Total Members Voted: 42

Voting closed: July 18, 2004, 08:17:52 am

Topic: Which BCH ?  (Read 14655 times)

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Offline Hexx

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2004, 03:02:30 pm »
I do believe its time to head back to a universe far far away.

Can't even bring myself to fire up the game anymore much less interact on these boards anymore.

Bye Hexx.

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Was it ME that drove you away from this game Sten?
If it was let me know, if it will get you back into the game (even cameos)
 I'll never post in the forums again - I hadn't thought anyone took my posts seriously but from this and the Age comment I'm getting the feeling that you do.
Anyway if I've offended you- my apologies and as I said
-Come back and you'll never see me here again.
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2004, 09:52:12 am »
Hexx, unfortunately it will take far more than you to get Sten back - I don't believe that his problems were with you :).

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2004, 03:19:11 pm »
Hexx, unfortunately it will take far more than you to get Sten back - I don't believe that his problems were with you :).

Thanks Laflin
Yes Sten was kind enough to email me and let me know that he did not include me in his reasons for leaving.

After I came to my senses I realized the same thing, as if anyone could ever get tired of basking in my light.. of my wit, my witticism, my cunning insights into both human nature and the D2.. of my dominance over the KBF.. of my gret works in progress...
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2004, 03:22:25 pm »
Hexx, unfortunately it will take far more than you to get Sten back - I don't believe that his problems were with you :).

Thanks Laflin
Yes Sten was kind enough to email me and let me know that he did not include me in his reasons for leaving.

After I came to my senses I realized the same thing, as if anyone could ever get tired of basking in my light.. of my wit, my witticism, my cunning insights into both human nature and the D2.. of my dominance over the KBF.. of my gret works in progress...


Well....I still hate you.   :P
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2004, 03:41:58 pm »
Hexx, unfortunately it will take far more than you to get Sten back - I don't believe that his problems were with you :).

Thanks Laflin
Yes Sten was kind enough to email me and let me know that he did not include me in his reasons for leaving.

After I came to my senses I realized the same thing, as if anyone could ever get tired of basking in my light.. of my wit, my witticism, my cunning insights into both human nature and the D2.. of my dominance over the KBF.. of my gret works in progress...


Well....I still hate you.   :P

Kroma... I told you
I only rejected you because you disgust me...

It wasn't personal..

 ;D


EDIT Forgot to mention I'm sorry that I'm  prettier than you are too..
« Last Edit: July 21, 2004, 04:55:21 pm by Hexx »
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Offline Green

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2004, 07:21:21 pm »
Hexx, unfortunately it will take far more than you to get Sten back - I don't believe that his problems were with you :).

Oh man, you're ruining it Laflin.  We actually had Hexx about to stop posting!

Huh?  Oh, I'm on open comms again ... ooops ... I mean "All hail the Glorious Leader Hexx.  Ruler of all that is good.  Keeper of the faith.  Protector of frail women, small children, and fluffy bunnies"

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2004, 08:31:37 pm »
Hexx, unfortunately it will take far more than you to get Sten back - I don't believe that his problems were with you :).

Oh man, you're ruining it Laflin.  We actually had Hexx about to stop posting!

Huh?  Oh, I'm on open comms again ... ooops ... I mean "All hail the Glorious Leader Hexx.  Ruler of all that is good.  Keeper of the faith.  Protector of frail women, small children, and fluffy bunnies"


So I happen to like fluffy bunnies... you have a problem with that?
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2004, 09:39:48 pm »
Hexx, unfortunately it will take far more than you to get Sten back - I don't believe that his problems were with you :).

Oh man, you're ruining it Laflin.  We actually had Hexx about to stop posting!

Huh?  Oh, I'm on open comms again ... ooops ... I mean "All hail the Glorious Leader Hexx.  Ruler of all that is good.  Keeper of the faith.  Protector of frail women, small children, and fluffy bunnies"


So I happen to like fluffy bunnies... you have a problem with that?

I'm with Hexx I like fluffy bunnies also.

Roasted, Baked, Stewed,...

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #68 on: July 24, 2004, 06:16:13 am »
Be careful about picking on Canadians. We won the war of 1812. Oh yeah, that was while we still had an army. Er, never mind.  ::)

Don't knock it- you notice the States hasn't picked  a war with us since that one...

We invented TV and found something else to take up our spare time  :P.  Are you sure that this isn't Sten in sheep's clothing?  ;D

erm, wasn't it John Logie Baird that invented TV, IIRC a Scotsman  ;D
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #69 on: July 24, 2004, 07:51:53 am »
Be careful about picking on Canadians. We won the war of 1812. Oh yeah, that was while we still had an army. Er, never mind.  ::)

Don't knock it- you notice the States hasn't picked  a war with us since that one...

We invented TV and found something else to take up our spare time  :P.  Are you sure that this isn't Sten in sheep's clothing?  ;D

erm, wasn't it John Logie Baird that invented TV, IIRC a Scotsman  ;D

<Shhh - I'm being The Ugly American>  ;)

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2004, 02:13:58 pm »
erm, wasn't it John Logie Baird that invented TV, IIRC a Scotsman  ;D

There are at least 5 claims of inventing the TV.  Vladimir Zworykin, Karl Braun, Charles Jenkins, Paul Nipkow, and Philo Farnsworth.  There may be more.  Take your pick.

Edit:  Wow, now there is a hijacking

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2004, 02:59:11 pm »
*Bursts in waving a phaser*

Nobody move! This is a hijack of a hijack of a thre...oh never mind. My vote goes to the F-BCF. Never run into a CCZ with it though.

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« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2004, 03:35:02 pm »
I-CCZ is best of BCH class, IMHO.  There's not much that it cannot do which is how SFB originally designed it to be:  an all General War race pacifier.

In PvP, if you got a droner then it's 6xPh3, 8xPH1, and 5xTractors will take care of the 12 drone wave or any SP encountered on an over-run. As a bonus the 2xPPDs will knock up the circling droner with good long-range accuracy up to range 15.  If you got a PF cruiser that charges then you can crank it up to speed 31 and let the Plasma Is wipe out the 2 PFs. Then you are fighting an lessor matched BCH.  Same goes for enemy CVs. Once the fighters are gone, then the CV runs.  If you are fighting a K-C7 and they T-bomb shower you then you can T-Bomb shower right back with 5 x Transporters.  Another good feature is that you can under-load the Plasma Ss to Plasma Fs and phaser-boat the enemy.

Against AI, its 2xPlasma S (enveloping), 8xPh1 and 5 trans. marine capturing beam-in alpha-strike will take down a F-DD class ship in one shot.  K-F5 variants will be blown away half the time.

I-CCZ really only has trouble when the enemy charges and survives with enough weapons to deliver a serious alpha-strike or when the Frog pilot gets sloppy against droners and mis-times the I-CCZs phaser recharge rate.

As  for further impressive, all-omnipotent proof that I-CCZ is good ship: I only lost in a CCZ in PvP against BCH or lower ships on the dyna once:  WS in a K-D5D when I was still learning anti-drone tactics.  The other time, I hit a rock. Also, a Planet. Another rock when chatting too much. Oh, and once when I got distracted by wanker and I let a couple Droners tractor me.

So, as long as you fly I-CCZ in clear space lanes, J'inn and I should be OK. *snicker*

F-BCF with 104 hp Photon, Plasma F alpha-strike at range 2 to 4 or maybe 5 (if lucky with O/L Photon die rolls) is plenty tough too.  Both F-BCF and I-CCZ have similar in-your-face fighting capabilities to complement intermediate ranged saber dancing with 4x(proxy photons) to replace the 2xPPDs.  F-BCF also has the Plasma Fs to sick on fighters to go with the AMD, plus has lotsa SPs. Similar turn modes and lotsa phasers.

K-C7 is a great BCH too but lacks the in-your-face punches that a charged up F-BCH or I-CCZ can deliver. Then only thing wrong with it is the model.  It should have something more beefed-up and cooler looking than the standard D7 look-alikes.  The K-D7W model looks better than the K-C7 one. :P

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2004, 04:26:21 pm »
Kroma can take one out anytime can't you Kroma?Then agian you don't know what F-CAD+ can do to it  7 drones coming at you nice mean type 4s  ;D

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #74 on: July 29, 2004, 05:04:01 pm »
Kroma can take one out anytime can't you Kroma?Then agian you don't know what F-CAD+ can do to it  7 drones coming at you nice mean type 4s  ;D

Please Age, seriously, stop embarrasing yourslef by posting this stuff until after you have actually flown against a human.
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #75 on: July 29, 2004, 05:27:14 pm »
Kroma can take one out anytime can't you Kroma?Then agian you don't know what F-CAD+ can do to it  7 drones coming at you nice mean type 4s  ;D

Please Age, seriously, stop embarrasing yourslef by posting this stuff until after you have actually flown against a human.
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #76 on: July 29, 2004, 09:42:41 pm »
An I-CCZ has four Tractors and four Transporters, not five... and it is not invincible.

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #77 on: July 30, 2004, 07:31:55 am »
An I-CCZ has four Tractors and four Transporters, not five... and it is not invincible.

Sorry Corb, but if Karnak hasn't lost in one then that is all the proof anyone needs to know that the CCZ is OTT. <snicker>

Kroma,

PS, Age you crack me up.
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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #78 on: July 30, 2004, 07:39:58 am »
An I-CCZ has four Tractors and four Transporters, not five... and it is not invincible.

Funny one Kroma  ;D

In all seriousness, the I-CCZ is not OTT, it is just the best BCH without attached attrition units.

Somebody had to get it, there has to be a best any worse of everything.
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Offline Kroma BaSyl

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Re: Which BCH ?
« Reply #79 on: July 30, 2004, 07:46:56 am »


In all seriousness, the I-CCZ is not OTT, it is just the best BCH without attached attrition units.

I was just teasing.

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Somebody had to get it, there has to be a best any worse of everything.

However, while there has to be a best and worst, they didn't have to be to such a degree, which is the problem with the CCZ and KHK, just as it apparently was with the G-BCS, which isn't even as good as a CCZ.
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