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so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« on: July 13, 2004, 12:26:33 pm »
Okay so, I added the Scimitar to SFC:OP, using SFB stats, according to this, at least:


(note, each beveled box is worth 10, instead of 1).

So i gave it a total shielding of 7200
I Foward Hull of 740
Center Hull of 280
Aft hull of 480
Cargo of 280
Excess Damage of 330

And yet, when i get shot once, no matter the weapon. It says im taking hull damage, and it shows damage textures on my ship - yet my ship takes no actual damage.....whats going on?
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2004, 02:04:44 pm »
Simple- you blew the program's mind with all those 0's!
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2004, 05:10:55 pm »
really now....
is there any way to fix it?
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2004, 05:20:56 pm »
Where in the heck did you get that?  And what's a non-temporal defense...correction, what would a temporal defense be?
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2004, 05:28:05 pm »
http://www.smileylich.com/sfb/index2003.html

Take a look at the Krenim stuff
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2004, 05:29:27 pm »
Andromedan Temporal Elevator?

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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2004, 05:45:11 pm »
So if the Krenim temporal ship blows you up by erasing you from time, does that mean that the battle technically didn't take place?
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2004, 06:06:02 pm »
http://www.smileylich.com/sfb/rules/tng05.txt

see the Timewarp Entry

If a ship is "Destroyed" by the Temporal Incursion Beam, it rolls on the Temporal Paradox Breakdown table.
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2004, 06:11:43 pm »
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Everything it ever did is undone, and history may change dramatically based on the unit never existing.

So the battle wouldn't have occurred since everything it has done is undone.
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2004, 06:12:32 pm »
I suppose so...
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2004, 06:16:12 pm »
Guess we won't be seeing that in SFC any time soon then.   ;)
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2004, 06:38:02 pm »
 ;)Reduce excess damage to 127 or less ..armor also. Anything above that seems to produce strange results.
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2004, 07:55:47 pm »
nothing strange about this i knew this  for quite some time the engine wasn't designed to calculate so many digits not to mention zeros that you pot their id wait until the engine is modified and then place the exact specs on it BTW if you try to convert any TNG CANON ship to SFB stats the way they are you will get the same results
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2004, 12:00:45 am »
Some of the Weps in SFC OP do cause your ship feed back damage,  PH A   and PH B i believe. Happened on the RDSL campaign. Even though u dont take damage u still get it from firing.
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2004, 12:17:39 am »
I didnt fire a single thing when that happened....besides, i was at full health - full sheilds. The moment the enemy fired at me, it yelled at me for having internal damage - even though i hadnt receieved any...plus the damage textures were applied to my model.
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2004, 06:40:35 am »
One would have to think that you have set the numbers of certain aspects of those specifications higher than the game recognizes. You might be able to compensate by substitution. Such as maxing the shields out and rolling some of it over into armor. Perhaps it would be useful to start listing the maximum parameters of ship systems in this thread.

It is also pretty useful to squirrel away some SSD's, like you have done with the Scimitar, so one can find a home for some of these models that don't have a specification available in SFC. (Long sentence, No?) I've been doing so for some time because of this necessity. Like what to do with Terradyhne's Bertaa? Perhaps an interdiction carrier? Or a D8? Haven't made my mind up yet.
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2004, 04:01:49 pm »
Quote from: Furyofaseraph on July 13, 2004, 12:26:33 pm
Okay so, I added the Scimitar to SFC:OP, using SFB stats...

Um, I don't think so... lol... sorry, theres no way that's an SFB SSD... 46 (or more?) disruptors on one ship? AND Photons? I don't see plasma anywhere... it is a Rom isn't it? and what's a THA?

BPV = 127400 !?!?!?
Can fire while cloaked !?!?!?

R4.411 ? - no way... gotta check that...

Total power = 1111 ok that's it....  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lol:

How many Doms would it take to bring that sucker down? 12? 24? 36? - there is no fleet in SFB that follows CnC that would be capable of engaging such a ship. Well maybe... but it would take days to resolve.. too many die rolls.. any SFB playtesting stats on that beastie? ;)


I think if you base your ships on ADB SSDs you'll find they work fine in SFC (it is based on SFB...), you just need to account for double internals and a few other restrictions imposed by SFC.

Of course it won't work... it's totally ridiculous... I'm sorry, no offense intended, but thats the way I see it.
Too funny, hehe...  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:




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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2004, 05:04:30 pm »
You forget, Bonk, that the Scimitar post-dates all the SFB ships you know by over a century, so it wouldn't be surprising if it went to town on a fleet of D7s.  Plus, the loadout is fairly close to what Worf said in the movie.
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2004, 06:28:25 pm »
Bonk, I'm guessing you haven't seen "Star Trek: Nemesis?"  ;)
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Re: so i have this Ubership...something goes awry.
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2004, 07:02:48 pm »
Bah, a fleet of D7 would whoop up on that stupid thing. They'd just paste it from 80,000 km for hours or days or whatever until it went down. (On second thought, that cloak would be a problem... ::))
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