Topic: I have OP, Now what?

[Bisquik]

Hey Guys,
I just installed OP and patched it up (2552). Now what? I tried to log onto a few servers, but they all seem to need special files. Are there any servers that don't need special files (such as the BattleZone server for EAW)?

Are there certain files, while not official, should be used (e.g. OP+3.3)?

Someone mentioned a file that would make the EAW missions compatible with OP. Where can I find this?

Thanks,
-Bisquik


PS. BTW, finally got EAW to work too... not sure how though... Thanks again for your help with that.
PPS. Who runs the BattleZone server for EAW? They should shrink the map... for the amount of people that play on it, the campaign takes forever to complete.

[Cleaven]

There are probably half a dozen fan sites that bring all those files together, but sadly I can't recite them because I am lazy and never look further than SFCx.net, not because it's necessarily better but because I went there first. Sometimes there will be special sites put up for servers and then I have to go looking a little further.

[SkyFlyer]

www.battleclinic.com   www.sfcx.net    this site... dynaverse.net   uhm oh yes... xenocorp.net (is it net or .com or .org?    Well one of the three)

[Capt_Bearslayer_XC]

If you are interested in playing on LitterBox5 here is the download and install link:

LitterBox5 Install Program

[Bisquik]

What is Litterbox about? I noticed that it had the most players on it when I was checking out the servers. When I read the directions it said (I think...) it was a campaign with SFC-OP and SCF3. I don't own SFC3. Can I still play, or will people want to boot me? 

Do people that play on Litterbox come here to cooridinate their activity in the game?

-Bisquik

[Bonk]

Check the LITTERBOX 5 "TIMELINES" thread for more info... (you don't have to play on the SFC3 server too, it is just running concurrently with related victory conditions)

The race coordination forums for this server are on www.battleclinic.com , register there to get race info and report VCs etc... (though not mandatory). http://bozobits.com/forums is normally used for this purpose but battleclinic is kindly doing the job for this server.

You'll have to misbehave pretty badly to get booted, we need all the new players we can get... (hey, we put up with the likes of Dizzy and Hexx, so I'm sure you'll be fine! )

And, welcome aboard!

P.S. I run the Gravity Well and SFB-OP servers (links to files in the server description or on the webmaps linked). I run these servers for testing new ideas and for "fun" servers between major campaigns.

[Bisquik]

Thanks Bonk. I downloaded and installed the Litterbox files. I joined the Federation. You should see my name on the server later on tonight.

I was looking at SFC-OP. Now for me to jump onto that server, do I have to have a clean install on the game with your files (wiping out the litterbox files)? Or do the litterbox files work for both?

Thanks again,
-Bisquik

[drb]

Hello Bisquik,

  First, welcome to the dyna, I hope you enjoy the game and the forums.

Now for me to jump onto that server, do I have to have a clean install on the game with your files (wiping out the litterbox files)? Or do the litterbox files work for both?

  The short answer is no.
  The long answer could best be provided by others members, however I'll try to be brief.
Most downlosds (dls) are provided to players through links found on these or the other sites mentioned above in the form of installers. At the end of the server you can un-install either by means of a shortcut in your All Programmes list, or in some cases in Add/Remove programmes.

  I do recommend making a copy of the patched, stock game somewhere on your hard drive.

 Good luck have fun and take care,

drb

[Bonk]

There is an uninstaller in your OP installation folder called "dipmodelremover.exe" that should restore your OP installation to stock from the LB5 shiplist installer. (a fresh install is not necessary) Also there is a folder in your OP installation called "dipmodels\backup" that has whatever shiplist and strings files were present when LB5 was installed. (If you want to temporarliy swap them manually)
 
As drb mentioned, most mods have a shortcut to the uninstaller on the start menu or in the control panel add/remove programs dialog. The uninstallers will restore whatever files that were present when the mod was installed. Just keep track of which mods you have installed - I generally only run one at a time, uninstall the mod, then install others.

I'm playing on LB5 when not working on my servers at the moment, all the action is there. (I'll keep an eye out for ya, I'm flying Klingon as Wkaah... ) Glad to hear you're interested in the SFB-OP server but to keep things simple you may just want to wait till LB5 is over, it will still be there and I'll still be working on it... Though swapping out mods is not that difficult once you get the hang of it.

There is also a shiplist swapper you may find handy, Strat's SFC:OP Mod Chooser Tool, though I have not used it myself...

P.S. in order to see the D2 servers, don't forget to update your WONServerSetup.gf according to: Attention: Please Read, this is important!, if you havent already...

[Bisquik]

Thanks again Bonk, and thanks drb.
I'm up and running. 

I saw the litterbox uninstall in my add/remove programs utility. That should be fine. I seem to be getting the hand of it.

One last thing (I hope!):
Should I install OP+3.3 ship models, or is that included with the litterbox file?
-Bisquik

[Age]

Hey Guys,
I just installed OP and patched it up (2552). Now what? I tried to log onto a few servers, but they all seem to need special files. Are there any servers that don't need special files (such as the BattleZone server for EAW)?

Are there certain files, while not official, should be used (e.g. OP+3.3)?

Someone mentioned a file that would make the EAW missions compatible with OP. Where can I find this?

Thanks,
-Bisquik


PS. BTW, finally got EAW to work too... not sure how though... Thanks again for your help with that.
PPS. Who runs the BattleZone server for EAW? They should shrink the map... for the amount of people that play on it, the campaign takes forever to complete.

I asked you not to do this yet.To play the game as I am still waiting to hear from Pestalence when he puts his V2.0 Enhancement Pack in hear.The bad news is that you will have to do this all over again uinstall OP delete game folder.Then install Op and say no to game spy and direct x.Then you will Download the Enhancement Pack it as all the patches in it as well as OP+3.3 and don't use the mod chooser.I am sorry to say this put I would of waited if I were you.I was wanting to prevent you from just downloading the Enhancement Pack right on your game now.If you do this it will corrupt the game.

[Bonk]

One last thing (I hope!):
Should I install OP+3.3 ship models, or is that included with the litterbox file?
-Bisquik

OP+ is not required for LB5 and is a seperate installer (dont install over LB5 - but the reverse is ok).

[Bonk]

Hey Guys,
I just installed OP and patched it up (2552). Now what? I tried to log onto a few servers, but they all seem to need special files. Are there any servers that don't need special files (such as the BattleZone server for EAW)?

Are there certain files, while not official, should be used (e.g. OP+3.3)?

Someone mentioned a file that would make the EAW missions compatible with OP. Where can I find this?

Thanks,
-Bisquik


PS. BTW, finally got EAW to work too... not sure how though... Thanks again for your help with that.
PPS. Who runs the BattleZone server for EAW? They should shrink the map... for the amount of people that play on it, the campaign takes forever to complete.

I asked you not to do this yet.To play the game as I am still waiting to hear from Pestalence when he puts his V2.0 Enhancement Pack in hear.The bad news is that you will have to do this all over again uinstall OP delete game folder.Then install Op and say no to game spy and direct x.Then you will Download the Enhancement Pack it as all the patches in it as well as OP+3.3 and don't use the mod chooser.I am sorry to say this put I would of waited if I were you.I was wanting to prevent you from just downloading the Enhancement Pack right on your game now.If you do this it will corrupt the game.

Age, get off that trip man, Ive been swapping various mods on the same single OP install for over two years now, no corruption - explain that! (not to be mean, but thats the truth of it, know what you're doing and you'll be fine).

The enahancement pack is fine but not necessary, and it does not include all mods - for good reasons.

[Bisquik]

It wouldn't be too much of a problem to reinstall everything. I just wanted to start playing.
I saved your message about how to install it Age. Thanks.
-Kevin

[Cleaven]

It wouldn't be too much of a problem to reinstall everything. I just wanted to start playing.
I saved your message about how to install it Age. Thanks.
-Kevin

Yep, make a duplicate install CD and write the CD key in different places so you can't lose it. Deleting and reinstalling is character building. makes you remember what all those ini file changes are that you made. (Space dust anybody?)

[Bonk]

lol - not the spacedust! Anything but the spacedust...please!

Code: [Select]

[Network]
PlayerName=Wkaah
SessionName=Players Game
SessionType=Starfleet
NetDebug=0
NetLib=1
SimProtocol=0
MulticasterServer=0
NetDbgFile=0
SynchWait=60
HideRaceFromOthers=1
HideBPVFromOthers=0

[3D]
wireframe=0
windowed=0
zbuffer=1
lowres=3
driver=0
backdrop=1
shipstacking=1
ambientlighting=0.22
luminancetextures=1
luminancedamagetextures=1
spacedust=0

[AI]
TemplatePath=assets\ai\personalities
TacticsPath=assets\ai\tactics
AIAttack=1
AIMove=1
ProcessThreats=1
AIDrawFlight=0
AIDrawTarget=0
AIDrawWeapons=0

[AIDebug]
AIDebugLevel=0
DebugError=1

[UI]
UIType=2
QuickTip=1
Grid=0
OrderDelay=30
HeadingDisplay=0
AutoFilm=1
SkipUpsell=1
ASCIICharacterSet=0

ChatColor=1
[Sound]
voice=3
GlobalVolume=21
MusicVolume=10
VoiceVolume=21
MaxChannels=16
CollisionAlert=0

[Races]
Orions=1
Feds=1
Klingons=1
Hydrans=1
Lyrans=1
Roms=1
Gorns=1

[Mouse]
async=1
hwblit=0

[IPAddress]
NumOfEntries=1
Entry#0=Local Area Network
[ModemAddress]
NumOfEntries=0

[Models]
ShowModels=1
Rescale=1
DisplayScale=1

[Meta]
WONName=blahblah@blah.com
WONPassword=blah
MapName=Map4.mvm
TestPatchUtility=1
EmpireMapView=1
WONNickname=blahblah
[Debug]
VollyInfo=1

(my current OP sfc.ini file)

P.S. interesting how the folders referred to by the lines:
TemplatePath=assets\ai\personalities
TacticsPath=assets\ai\tactics
are not present in an OP install - would be nice to see such a thought completed...

[drb]

Bonk says:

lol - not the spacedust! Anything but the spacedust...please!


Code:
[Network]
PlayerName=Wkaah
SessionName=Players Game
SessionType=Starfleet
NetDebug=0
NetLib=1
SimProtocol=0
MulticasterServer=0
NetDbgFile=0
SynchWait=60
HideRaceFromOthers=1
HideBPVFromOthers=0

[3D]
wireframe=0
windowed=0
zbuffer=1
lowres=3
driver=0
backdrop=1
shipstacking=1
ambientlighting=0.22
luminancetextures=1
luminancedamagetextures=1
spacedust=0

[AI]               
TemplatePath=assets\ai\personalities
TacticsPath=assets\ai\tactics
AIAttack=1
AIMove=1
ProcessThreats=1
AIDrawFlight=0
AIDrawTarget=0
AIDrawWeapons=0

[AIDebug]
AIDebugLevel=0
DebugError=1

[UI]
UIType=2
QuickTip=1
Grid=0
OrderDelay=30
HeadingDisplay=0
AutoFilm=1
SkipUpsell=1
ASCIICharacterSet=0

ChatColor=1
[Sound]
voice=3
GlobalVolume=21
MusicVolume=10
VoiceVolume=21
MaxChannels=16
CollisionAlert=0

[Races]
Orions=1
Feds=1
Klingons=1
Hydrans=1
Lyrans=1
Roms=1
Gorns=1

[Mouse]
async=1
hwblit=0

[IPAddress]
NumOfEntries=1
Entry#0=Local Area Network
[ModemAddress]
NumOfEntries=0

[Models]
ShowModels=1
Rescale=1
DisplayScale=1

[Meta]
WONName=blahblah@blah.com
WONPassword=blah
MapName=Map4.mvm
TestPatchUtility=1
EmpireMapView=1
WONNickname=blahblah
[Debug]
VollyInfo=1

(my current OP sfc.ini file)

I'm thinking the red phone is not a bad idea after all...

drb

[Strafer]

P.S. interesting how the folders referred to by the lines:
TemplatePath=assets\ai\personalities
TacticsPath=assets\ai\tactics
are not present in an OP install - would be nice to see such a thought completed...

Don't ask me from where, but I know what those are for;
Devel testing work on AI and other things while the game was being worked on. No need to recompile.

I just don't remember how I know this! 

[Age]

Hey Guys,
I just installed OP and patched it up (2552). Now what? I tried to log onto a few servers, but they all seem to need special files. Are there any servers that don't need special files (such as the BattleZone server for EAW)?

Are there certain files, while not official, should be used (e.g. OP+3.3)?

Someone mentioned a file that would make the EAW missions compatible with OP. Where can I find this?

Thanks,
-Bisquik


PS. BTW, finally got EAW to work too... not sure how though... Thanks again for your help with that.
PPS. Who runs the BattleZone server for EAW? They should shrink the map... for the amount of people that play on it, the campaign takes forever to complete.

I asked you not to do this yet.To play the game as I am still waiting to hear from Pestalence when he puts his V2.0 Enhancement Pack in hear.The bad news is that you will have to do this all over again uinstall OP delete game folder.Then install Op and say no to game spy and direct x.Then you will Download the Enhancement Pack it as all the patches in it as well as OP+3.3 and don't use the mod chooser.I am sorry to say this put I would of waited if I were you.I was wanting to prevent you from just downloading the Enhancement Pack right on your game now.If you do this it will corrupt the game.

Age, get off that trip man, Ive been swapping various mods on the same single OP install for over two years now, no corruption - explain that! (not to be mean, but thats the truth of it, know what you're doing and you'll be fine).

The enahancement pack is fine but not necessary, and it does not include all mods - for good reasons.

I will let Pestalence answer that.Who do you think I learned all from?

[Age]

It wouldn't be too much of a problem to reinstall everything. I just wanted to start playing.
I saved your message about how to install it Age. Thanks.
-Kevin

To get the Enhancement Pack go to utilities the little ship below and click on it.There you will see OP Enhancement Pack V2.0 with or without high resolution models read it very carefully and familiarize your self with this site.The site is www.nightsoftware.com/effhq/  the little ship is in the centre and it is part way down as I said read it very carefully and do as I said below.