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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2004, 11:22:56 pm »
Bah, don't confuse war with an online game that people do in their leisure time.  Fairness and equity are essential in playing games.  If you're playing 5 card stud, the dealer doesn't get 7 cards just because he feels like making a better hand for himself.  You've all had it wrong from the very beginning.
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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2004, 12:01:59 am »
Hell, Mu Hi.

This whole AF thing started because someone found the Ranter page :)

Good to hear from you, so when you taking over the Feds ;)

Log on and have a game if you can find all the bits required now ;)


Like I own OP.  I don't think it's even being pressed anymore.  :P

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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2004, 03:31:37 am »

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Like I own OP.  I don't think it's even being pressed anymore.  :P

Feds here is your opportunity to really learn how to fly, get Mu a copy of OP.

Klinks, wanna see how really good you are? Get Mu a copy of OP.

No disrespect meant to Klinks or Feds, but a couple of games with Mu is worth a thousand tactical posts. I'd send him one, but had to get Soreyes to send me one when I came back .

I can see the matchup now Darkelf v Mu, now that would be worth a film and even a song or two :)

Never played DE myself, but evryone keeps telling me he is the King O the Hill, Klink wise


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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2004, 07:38:36 am »

Like I own OP.  I don't think it's even being pressed anymore.  :P

Yeah you do  ;D
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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2004, 11:24:56 am »
This whole AF thing started because someone found the Ranter page :)


*AHEM* <raises hand>

Lot's o' good stuff in yer website their there, Mu. I especially like the "Dumb Fed Tricks" page



Damn straight Mu's website r0xx0rs!!!1!!!11!!!



BTW, Mu, good to see you around again!


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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2004, 11:40:05 am »

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Like I own OP.  I don't think it's even being pressed anymore.  :P

Feds here is your opportunity to really learn how to fly, get Mu a copy of OP.

Klinks, wanna see how really good you are? Get Mu a copy of OP.

No disrespect meant to Klinks or Feds, but a couple of games with Mu is worth a thousand tactical posts. I'd send him one, but had to get Soreyes to send me one when I came back .

I can see the matchup now Darkelf v Mu, now that would be worth a film and even a song or two :)

Never played DE myself, but evryone keeps telling me he is the King O the Hill, Klink wise





Indeed...it's been ages, but I've had soem good matches against ole Mu...


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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2004, 11:46:26 am »




MadElf won't like you refering to him as DarkElf...heheh.  He might come looking for you.  ;)

Yeah, but we know Dark.... I mean Angry Pix... I mean MadElf will drop.... :P

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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2004, 12:31:30 pm »




MadElf won't like you refering to him as DarkElf...heheh.  He might come looking for you.  ;)

Yeah, but we know Dark.... I mean Angry Pix... I mean MadElf will drop.... :P

Damn 56k'ers!!   :-\



Heh...lucky for you he drops, eh?   heheh...


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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2004, 12:38:36 pm »

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Like I own OP.  I don't think it's even being pressed anymore.  :P

Feds here is your opportunity to really learn how to fly, get Mu a copy of OP.

Klinks, wanna see how really good you are? Get Mu a copy of OP.

No disrespect meant to Klinks or Feds, but a couple of games with Mu is worth a thousand tactical posts. I'd send him one, but had to get Soreyes to send me one when I came back .

I can see the matchup now Darkelf v Mu, now that would be worth a film and even a song or two :)

Never played DE myself, but evryone keeps telling me he is the King O the Hill, Klink wise





Indeed...it's been ages, but I've had soem good matches against ole Mu...


MadElf won't like you refering to him as DarkElf...heheh.  He might come looking for you.  ;)



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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2004, 02:21:25 pm »
This led to the unfortunate fact that if I won the mission but my wingman survived, the defense value of the hex would go UP, not down.   We ISC became quite adept at getting our AI wingmen killed before the end of the mission.

AHA!

So that's where Maverick learned to fly!


BTW: the map was 100 x 100 hexes. 10,000 in total!

Once everyone figured out the Kzin/Mirak might actually win, they all turned on us! Sheesh, can you imagine the insult if we had. If I recall correctly, every server after that which had the same setup, everyone seemed to want to hit the Kzin right off the bat. Stop us before we got started.

Now why would they want to do that? (scratches head)


The main attraction for me WAS the fact that you never knew what you were getting when you pulled a mission. You had to be able to fly anything with little or no preperation at all. No preset games with equal footing, you had to master everything and fly against all odds and situations. I guess that debate still rages.

Still they was the first ones (there were 3 of them all told, gook outlined the third) that truly came close to "Hundreds of online opponents". The most I ever saw online simultaneously were 106.

Everything after that was a lot more organized, but for pure chaotic power-shifting pandemonium, you couldn't beat those servers.
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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2004, 03:02:37 pm »
This led to the unfortunate fact that if I won the mission but my wingman survived, the defense value of the hex would go UP, not down.   We ISC became quite adept at getting our AI wingmen killed before the end of the mission.

AHA!

So that's where Maverick learned to fly!


BTW: the map was 100 x 100 hexes. 10,000 in total!

Once everyone figured out the Kzin/Mirak might actually win, they all turned on us! Sheesh, can you imagine the insult if we had. If I recall correctly, every server after that which had the same setup, everyone seemed to want to hit the Kzin right off the bat. Stop us before we got started.

Would you believe that the ISC kept track in a meticulous fashion as the the game year?  We wanted to know well in advance when to expect a change in the drone speed, both from you guys and the Feddies.
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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2004, 03:29:23 am »

CW5 the Klinks should have won, and you are right they lost because of spying. None Pacified RMs were under NDA from Rommies (we didn't know how much info we were gonna get) when I realised it was the while shooting match I kinda leaked clues on Taldren, that we knew, Socky picked that up, but was apparently overuled. The Klink missions which succeded were BM ones which they didn't tell the hierachy about, and thus Hydraxx fell to Squiggy and 2  or 3 other 69ers, Khemarrah and Maz I think, could be wrong. Lyraa we learned about at last minute and managed to hold it for a long while, but it fell. Gorns we knew everything and thud they held, then we switched to ISC homeworld. I know the Klinks were well pi$$ed at the Rommies afterwards.

As a whole, we dumped the spying as soon as Canada West outlawed it. We weren't happy about it, but we did it. There were still a few who kept at it, and when word of that got out within the SPQR, it was nearly the end. More than half the fleet was ready to walk over it.

In hind site, I think that moment was the beginning of the end for the SPQR. Numbers went up and down after that, but it was never the same; Romulans are sneaky bastards, and that's what we wanted to be. With out that, we were nothing but thin skinned Gorn with a God complex and stylish haircuts. Oh the shame...

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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2004, 08:50:55 am »

CW5 the Klinks should have won, and you are right they lost because of spying. None Pacified RMs were under NDA from Rommies (we didn't know how much info we were gonna get) when I realised it was the while shooting match I kinda leaked clues on Taldren, that we knew, Socky picked that up, but was apparently overuled. The Klink missions which succeded were BM ones which they didn't tell the hierachy about, and thus Hydraxx fell to Squiggy and 2  or 3 other 69ers, Khemarrah and Maz I think, could be wrong. Lyraa we learned about at last minute and managed to hold it for a long while, but it fell. Gorns we knew everything and thud they held, then we switched to ISC homeworld. I know the Klinks were well pi$$ed at the Rommies afterwards.


As a whole, we dumped the spying as soon as Canada West outlawed it. We weren't happy about it, but we did it. There were still a few who kept at it, and when word of that got out within the SPQR, it was nearly the end. More than half the fleet was ready to walk over it.

In hind site, I think that moment was the beginning of the end for the SPQR. Numbers went up and down after that, but it was never the same; Romulans are sneaky bastards, and that's what we wanted to be. With out that, we were nothing but thin skinned Gorn with a God complex and stylish haircuts. Oh the shame...


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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2004, 08:44:41 pm »
Ummmm...
               All I can say is, what long memories you have. *Nods to Durin*  . Speaking as the original co-founder of the 1AF I must say it was indeed one of our finest (to that point ) hours.
                Glad to see the fleet lives on. For those who knew us.....
                      Tanked-Up  and I still game together on a regular basis (with some muttering about a return to SFC play.) The others amongst the "originals" have for one reason or another gone their seperate ways.

   Minor correction-- Chay Mareyn did NOT in fact participate in this server. Though he was a valued fleetmate.


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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2004, 01:41:28 am »
No offense lepton, but do you always have to pee on everything?
Sometimes the game is unfair, because it is a WAR SIMULATION!

Ah well... whats the point... :)

Wish I was part of AF... and yes diehard, SS was fun, but so was SG3 :)

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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2004, 05:31:37 am »
Ummmm...
               All I can say is, what long memories you have. *Nods to Durin*  . Speaking as the original co-founder of the 1AF I must say it was indeed one of our finest (to that point ) hours.
                Glad to see the fleet lives on. For those who knew us.....
                      Tanked-Up  and I still game together on a regular basis (with some muttering about a return to SFC play.)



Glad to see you around Ed !  Your ships have been kept in perfect condition in dock in the hope that they once more would be called to duty if you guys ever have the "itch" again....  ;D
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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2004, 06:21:58 pm »
Ummmm...
               All I can say is, what long memories you have. *Nods to Durin*  . Speaking as the original co-founder of the 1AF I must say it was indeed one of our finest (to that point ) hours.
                Glad to see the fleet lives on. For those who knew us.....
                      Tanked-Up  and I still game together on a regular basis (with some muttering about a return to SFC play.) The others amongst the "originals" have for one reason or another gone their seperate ways.

   Minor correction-- Chay Mareyn did NOT in fact participate in this server. Though he was a valued fleetmate.




Hey Ed, its real good to hear from you again.I hope both you and Tanked get the Itch again.

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Re: History for those interested Artic Fire (long)
« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2004, 07:02:33 am »
YES....Sir Case, grab up Sir Tanked and give it a spin again.....

Would love to fly wing with you guys... ;D
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