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Offline CaptStumpy

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Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« on: July 21, 2004, 01:46:26 pm »
Just wondered. I resurrected this game and installed the new (Feb) patch. So far I'm playing the U.S. and I find it much improved.
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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2004, 02:32:19 pm »
I love that game, haven't played it since Nov though gotta give it
a try again, thanks.
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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2004, 02:34:49 pm »
I used to have that game, But for the life of me I don't know what happened to It.  My Son Nathan might have It though.

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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2004, 03:07:01 pm »
You guys might be interested in checking out the AAR so far for my current American Campaign,

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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2004, 04:14:29 pm »
Tell me again about the part where France doesn't actually surrender.

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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2004, 05:37:41 am »
Aye, Karl and I play it over the LAN on a weekend, usually playing as Axis countries (currently Japan and Italy), using the CORE mod.
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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2004, 05:53:19 am »
I really liked the game until this supply bug that came with the second last patch. Until its fixed I probably wont play it

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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2004, 10:21:13 am »
By "supply bug" I assume you mean the logisitcs distance penalty that was deliberately introduced by the designers and is not a bug. It just means you have to plan your invasions more carefully.
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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2004, 05:40:07 am »
I call it a bug Mog because you can't seem to change a unit's supply point and you should be able to build a supply point. With the way it works now it is virtually impossible for any country to launch an attack over any substanstial distance. At one time I was able to change the supply point of my units, now I can't seem to do that.

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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2004, 06:15:34 am »
Pretty sure there are some suggestions on the HOI forum for how to deal with the logistics penalty, including (going from memory), reloading the game (which is always a good idea to do regularly, to help keep the ai active).
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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2004, 04:50:55 pm »
Yes there is, I just havent had the time to keep up with that forum. There was a simply way to reset your supply point by making a new unit but after I loaded up the last patch it would work. I'll have to look in the forum again and see if anyone else has any ideas.

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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2004, 12:53:10 am »
I used to play it,but the 1.06 supply rules wrecked the game for me.

And after my experiences with Paradox games I seriously doubt I'll ever buy another one. I don't enjoy playing beta versions masquerading as "gold" versions.

Victoria was and still is a mess,HOI didn't become playable till the 1.03 patch,and they still can't seem to figure out just how they want EU2 to work.

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Re: Anyone play Hearts of Iron?
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2004, 12:45:43 pm »
Not played it since the 1.06 patch, Played online with the 1.05 patch, which I still have I think.

Found playing as Japan was"interesting"
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