Topic: Who wrote this?

[762_XC]

Who's Dagger?

You don't remember?

Dagger: "Sharp and always to the point"

A bit of a mouthy young whippersnapper as I recall. Liked to stir the pot... around three years ago? Ask Cleaven...

Also quit the game and came back several times as I recall.

[Capt Jeff]

My God, that was so long ago...yet I remember it so well. Those first servers was the best and none since have compared to the thrill when the D2 was brand-spanking new and hardly worked. But when it worked, OH BOY! Awesome times...

Awsome indeed.


Back when you just logged in and had fun....

Back before "balance" , LOS, CnC, Disengage, OOB, VC's, downloads.

While this game is still loads of fun (or I wouldn't still be here), something has been lost over the years...Nothing has compared to the days of old.

[Sirgod]

Looking at a larger-scale server like Artic's old server or Canada West and seeing a HUGE number of Feds on who are steadily losing ground while the ISC takes root in their living room makes the case clear.

My God, that was so long ago...yet I remember it so well. Those first servers was the best and none since have compared to the thrill when the D2 was brand-spanking new and hardly worked. But when it worked, OH BOY! Awesome times...

Oh God its been that long? Crap.. *sigh* I do miss Articfires... The greatest campaign that never was..

Talk about cutting one's Teeth. That was the place to do It. Deepsttrikes Behind enemy lines with nothing but a Destroyer. Good Times. Lot's of Rules where Implemented soon after, Let alone the Uhm Server Scandal.

Stephen

[FPF-DieHard]

. . .  something has been lost over the years...

- 3 Drone ship fleets
- 20 Players in battlships
- PvP being meaningless in the strategic arena
- The patrol bug
- Un-realstic cheesy deepstriking
- Un-realisitc running away while caught cheesiliy deep-striking

yeah, we lost a lot  

[Mog]

You forgot:

3 carrier fleets,
3 BB/DN fleets,
Ship-loss bug,
huge map where it took many days to meet an enemy player,
constant accusations of the existance of the blue plague,
constant denials of the existance of the blue plague (usually by 40+ fed players lol)

I, for one, do not look back at the early days of D2 with any fondness, or through rose-coloured glasses. What we did lose, though, was players, for various reasons (some due to the rules that were introduced, but others due to the state of D2 in those early days).

[Sirgod]

You forgot:

3 carrier fleets,
3 BB/DN fleets,
Ship-loss bug,
huge map where it took many days to meet an enemy player,
constant accusations of the existance of the blue plague,
constant denials of the existance of the blue plague (usually by 40+ fed players lol)

I, for one, do not look back at the early days of D2 with any fondness, or through rose-coloured glasses. What we did lose, though, was players, for various reasons (some due to the rules that were introduced, but others due to the state of D2 in those early days).

There was No Blue Plaque, and We didn't have Magic Photons either. 

Actually Mog Speaks true, at the Time It was a very rough and Turbulant place. However, I look at It as the Place where Friendships where Hammered out, and a stepping stone to where we are today. Did I like all the arguing back then? Heck no ( well maybe a little), But It did Make us Stronger, Both as Players, and as Friends.

Stephen Looking at an Old style Torpedo and grinning.

[Gook]

. . .  something has been lost over the years...

- 3 Drone ship fleets
- 20 Players in battlships
- PvP being meaningless in the strategic arena
- The patrol bug
- Un-realstic cheesy deepstriking
- Un-realisitc running away while caught cheesiliy deep-striking

yeah, we lost a lot  

Well 3 drone fleets there were, but only with slow drones we never got mediums, and no whined about them.

No one had BBs, though some had DNs, KDF-Kang for one

Patrol bug nobody misses

"Unrealistic" deep striking? well if you can have "realism" including faster than light ships in a game, nothing wrong with DSing, in fact it was fun as you had to watch your behind.

"Unrealistic running away" well unless you hadn't noticed space is Big I mean REAL BIG, and not like Kansas at all

PvP being meaningless?? dunno how you work that one out it was if anything more meaningful than the slugfest we have now.

2000 players trying to play on a server with 150 limit was a pain (if you couldn't get on) and waiting 18 hours in my TZ for Artic to reboot was a pain. Was it fun, hell yes, had more fun there than most other servers, and there was one community not the schism of 3 we have now, that helped a lot. There was "rotting fur" as well, but we all worked to fix that. When leaders wanted to work stuff out they flew there ships to designated hexes and had a meeting in game, which was kind of cool, no MSN then.

Guess you had to be there Some hated it, but more loved it, I did.

[SkyFlyer]

wish i was there

[Sirgod]

Heh, You would have needed Your Diapers Back then Sky.  J/K Bro.

stephen

[FPF-DieHard]

Well 3 drone fleets there were, but only with slow drones we never got mediums, and no whined about them.

No one had BBs, though some had DNs, KDF-Kang for one

Patrol bug nobody misses

What server you refering to?  I didn't even start playing this until after CW5 and I remember seeing servers with 20 people with BBs.

"Unrealistic" deep striking? well if you can have "realism" including faster than light ships in a game, nothing wrong with DSing, in fact it was fun as you had to watch your behind.

"Realistic" in this case is what could happen in the "rules" of Trek and/or the SFB universe.

I'm sorry, a solo drone frigate or CL deep-striking a planet or empty hex and placing a base 20 hexes deep in sombody's territory is RETARTED.   

"Unrealistic running away" well unless you hadn't noticed space is Big I mean REAL BIG, and not like Kansas at all

See above.

PvP being meaningless?? dunno how you work that one out it was if anything more meaningful than the slugfest we have now.

Now that just doesn't make any sense in English?  Something get lost in the translation?   I know british is your first languge.   

[Mog]

I thought he still did?

[Mog]

Actually Gook, pvp back then was pretty meaningless. Because of the ship-loss bug, wasn't it set so that you didn't get downgraded after getting blown up? That's the main reason why I never went on the early CW servers. I just didn't see the point.

Now, pvp means that you can contribute to your side's victory by killing important ships, or you can secure a hex from enemy ships, allowing your side to take it unmolested. Can't see anything more meaningful than that.

Remove the rose-coloured glasses, you solicitor, you   

[FPF-DieHard]

Stop agreeing with me Mog!!  It just ain't right

[Mog]

Why? I'm not one of those who hate you. Just because I told you to go F yourself the other day, doesn't mean I'm in that club. I was just really annoyed at the hypocrisy of what you said in that post.

Otherwise, would I have asked to meet up with you on my US trip, or asked for your MSn contact?

A lot of the time, you make good sense. Like most people, including myself, you have the odd "quirky" moment

[RogueJedi_XC]

What did we lose over the last 3 years? The newness of it all.  Now the D2 is well known (though some aspects remain a mystery, like just how does the server kit decided to build a big ship vs. a starbase vs. a DDG? ), it's not really an adventure anymore. It's still fun, it's still the most fulfilling multiplayer going, IMO, with a communtiy like this one, but it's lost it's luster and the shear accomplishment no longer awes us (well, it still awes me, don't know about you guys ).

[SkyFlyer]

... in that time I wasnt wearing diapers... I was almost done with puberty...
Thats how I got this...

[SSCF-LeRoy]

... in that time I wasnt wearing diapers... I was almost done with puberty...
Thats how I got this...

You still ain't done with puberty, Boy!

[Laflin]

Moggy, old age is leaving you disenchanted and bitter  .  I for one had a blast flying against Doggy <when he was younger and somewhat active>, Gow, Squiggy, Socky, JM and all of the other sadly missing Klinkon scum, not to mention the various other yahoos flying other races.  The pvp was fun for the sake of pvp - not everything had to have a higher purpose back then, Whippersnappers.  Why, I remember the time when....zzzzzz... 

[SkyFlyer]

No youre right... I'm not... I'll be heading to the double digit inches soon.

Btw, guess who got mu to sign up... urs truely (if thats really him... i sent him an email and a pm on his forums--which people still use--.)

[Gook]

Actually Gook, pvp back then was pretty meaningless. Because of the ship-loss bug, wasn't it set so that you didn't get downgraded after getting blown up? That's the main reason why I never went on the early CW servers. I just didn't see the point.

Now, pvp means that you can contribute to your side's victory by killing important ships, or you can secure a hex from enemy ships, allowing your side to take it unmolested. Can't see anything more meaningful than that.

Remove the rose-coloured glasses, you solicitor, you   

Ship loss bugwasn't a bug as such it was more to do with connection issues than anything. In AF when you lost a ship you were busted down to an FF. CW1 &2 were the servers where when you lost a ship you didn't get busted down, not AF.

Sorry I don't agree with current "meanigful" PvP, just having a late 200 slug fest in BCHs with unlimited BCHs availble (or whatever current top ship alloed is) is no better than, and IMHO worse than the older set up. Just an opinion.

The glasses may be rose tinted, but the view is better to me, I do not expect all to agree, but I know some do. Now where did I put those wrapround mirror shades