Topic: Vorcha WIP UPDATED 8/1/04 (Read 6078 times)

Sandman3D · « **on:** July 05, 2004, 12:58:00 am »

Well, almost finished with the Tholian, and had the modeling bug, so started another one from my list of projects. I know it's not a great representation, but since I mostly do Feds, I'm liking the way it's turning out.

Let me know what you think.

markyd · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:32:44 am »

Looks great so far....

I started working on a Vorcha varient the other day too.. so when I post it im not stealing ur ideas.. in fact it doesnt look anything like your model..

But yeah.. looks great so far!!!

Kaenyne · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2004, 11:44:23 am »

A very good model, IMHO. Wanna see more...

Sandman3D · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2004, 01:56:46 pm »

Thanx guys!!

I'm starting to get into splines and shapemerge and so on, and this looked like a good model to do....tried the K'Tinga, but can't seem to get it right.

I don't use templates in the viewports, I just eye-ball it, so that's probably the reason, lol.

But, eventually, I want to do a high poly Constitution Enterprise...I'm talking HIGH!!

Definitely not game size....100,00 polies+.

Every detail modelled....Oh the dream!!

markyd · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2004, 02:13:59 pm »

high eh... sounds like fun.....

oh... and time consuming.. cant wait 2 see it!!!

MarianoDT · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2004, 03:36:26 pm »

Quote from: Sandman3D on July 05, 2004, 01:56:46 pm

Thanx guys!!

I'm starting to get into splines and shapemerge and so on, and this looked like a good model to do....tried the K'Tinga, but can't seem to get it right. I don't use templates in the viewports, I just eye-ball it, so that's probably the reason, lol.

hehe, I know the feeling.
Did you get the loftandsplinecage tutorial from http://www.scifi-meshes.com/ ?
It is very good for a start.
Ah, BTW, thanks for you video tut thread.!!!

Mariano

Red_Green · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2004, 05:47:04 pm »

Looks great, cant wait to see it to completion.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2004, 02:03:15 pm »

OK, did a little more detailing. Thanx go out to WZ for sending me some great ref pics.

Was wondering, should I do the hull paneling all over, or just on the wings and goom? She stands at about 2800 polies right now, and I haven't even done the nacelles yet.

Let me know what you think.

MarianoDT · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2004, 02:46:51 pm »

Its looking great!!!
I suggest you do the nacelles and then check again the poly count.

Mariano

markyd · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2004, 03:33:08 pm »

;Dlooking cool sandman really cool

kingconstantine · « **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2004, 06:07:03 pm »

jezz dude your cuming on leeps n bounds, i bow to you now

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #11 on:** July 06, 2004, 11:41:28 pm »

Just when I think canon TNG Klingon ships can't get any better you crank out this!

Well done.

KF

Sandman3D · « **Reply #12 on:** July 07, 2004, 12:42:39 pm »

OK, added the nacelles, and, well, I don't this will be game friendly.

11,512 polies, and I'm not done.

Oh well, it's still a fun model to do, and hopefully will look good in renders.

Let me know what you think...

MarianoDT · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2004, 01:16:10 pm »

It looks awesome!!!!

Great work

Mariano

Sandman3D · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2004, 12:15:23 pm »

OK, well, now it's over 12,000 polies, but looks really good!

Now, I need to do one that will be more game friendly. I'll do one without the armor plating on the wings detailed, just do it with textures...this 1st one was a test, a good looking test, but still a test.

Kane · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2004, 01:11:34 pm »

Quote from: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 12:15:23 pm

OK, well, now it's over 12,000 polies, but looks really good! Now, I need to do one that will be more game friendly. I'll do one without the armor plating on the wings detailed, just do it with textures...this 1st one was a test, a good looking test, but still a test.

What the hell did you do to make it have 12K polies?

battlestar001 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2004, 02:20:58 pm »

fantastip ship.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2004, 03:41:37 pm »

Quote from: Kane on July 08, 2004, 01:11:34 pm

Quote from: Sandman3D on July 08, 2004, 12:15:23 pm
OK, well, now it's over 12,000 polies, but looks really good! Now, I need to do one that will be more game friendly. I'll do one without the armor plating on the wings detailed, just do it with textures...this 1st one was a test, a good looking test, but still a test.

What the hell did you do to make it have 12K polies?

Well, like I said, it was a test...a test of Splines and Shapemerge. I can get it down around 7,500-8,000 by Optimizing the mesh, but there are a few errors that can't easily be removed.

All that mesh detailing eats up polies...that's why most of use textures to simulate the details.

Darkdrone · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2004, 03:44:56 pm »

looking great man really looking good

DD

Sandman3D · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2004, 10:23:10 pm »

OK, made another mesh, this time without all the details. This mesh is only 1,799 polies...pretty good.

I'm going to start texturing as soon as I get done here...have a new Klingon Base texture I want to try...made it myself even, lol.

Let me know what you think...

Kane · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2004, 10:47:53 pm »

Thats more like it.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2004, 11:29:33 pm »

OK, here's a little of the texturing...

markyd · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2004, 01:02:07 am »

Big thumbs up man.... mutch better

Sandman3D · « **Reply #23 on:** July 09, 2004, 12:49:52 pm »

Bump for opinions....

Sandman3D · « **Reply #24 on:** July 09, 2004, 01:41:03 pm »

OK, well here's a little more...

Wicked Zombie · « **Reply #25 on:** July 09, 2004, 03:57:27 pm »

Looking damn good so far.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #26 on:** July 09, 2004, 04:41:11 pm »

Thanx WZ!!!

Those ref.'s helped alot...the ones I had found didn't show the bottom.

I still have a lot of detailing to do on the high poly mesh...probably going to go over 20,000 polies by the time I'm done.

This (textured) version was a lot easier to make after doing the high poly one...might have to do that more often, lol.

How's the base texture look? Is it the right shade of grey/green?

Anyway, thanx again!!

Grim Reaper · « **Reply #27 on:** July 09, 2004, 06:29:27 pm »

Well perhaps you could borrow some things / take some pointers from this modeler's creation:

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14207&highlight=Vorcha

(It might be that the pix don't show if you aren't a member. Trust me, this ship alone is worth joining and there are many like it to be found there)

Wicked Zombie · « **Reply #28 on:** July 09, 2004, 07:20:48 pm »

The textures look good so far, I think the only thing they really need is a bit more blue/green in the base color. Also, there are two versions of the Vorcha, one for TNG and one for DS9. The only major difference is the DS9 version has red paneling and a slightly darker hull.

kingconstantine · « **Reply #29 on:** July 09, 2004, 07:23:26 pm »

man she looks fantastic. i would suggest a lil more green in the texture. but ill probably kick myself for sugesting it then shes done

Sandman3D · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10, 2004, 10:31:41 am »

Thanx guys...I thought it was a little light, but wasn't sure...the pics of the studio model are really light.

Red paneling?...Hmmm, maybe...

Sandman3D · « **Reply #31 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:00:56 am »

Just a quickie update...gonna do a little more today, but not much as I'm trying to get my site updated.

Thanx for the support, and stay tuned...

Sandman3D · « **Reply #32 on:** July 11, 2004, 01:17:08 pm »

OK, have all the zips uploaded and needed to do something else, so I did a little more texturing.

Made the base a little darker/greener also...

markyd · « **Reply #33 on:** July 11, 2004, 02:20:24 pm »

Gets better and better.... thanks for the rolloing update shots... very cool to follow!!!

Sandman3D · « **Reply #34 on:** July 11, 2004, 02:56:59 pm »

Thanx!!

I do the updates because I know it helped me when I started out to see this kind of stuff...plus, suggestions and advice are always welcome.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #35 on:** July 11, 2004, 11:45:02 pm »

What's this doing so close to the bottom?

BUMP!!!!!

Grim Reaper · « **Reply #36 on:** July 13, 2004, 07:35:12 am »

No idea

Sandman3D · « **Reply #37 on:** July 15, 2004, 12:07:28 am »

Just a quick note to let you know what's up... I'm back at work, after being out for a couple of weeks due toa back injury, and we just started a very big sales event, so haven't really had the time or inclination after work to do any more, but, I will probably get a chance to do a little tomorrow after work.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #38 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:18:22 pm »

OK, here's a look at my progress so far...not much due to my hand, but also this ship has a lot of little details, so there's a lot of mapping to do. Anyway, here's a pic...

Grim Reaper · « **Reply #39 on:** July 21, 2004, 03:04:40 pm »

Very Nice!

I'd love to have skills like yours or WZ's. All i have ever managed to create is a 4 nacelled version of 9 of 9's Negh'Var. And she needs massive optimising me thinks

Sandman3D · « **Reply #40 on:** July 21, 2004, 03:10:51 pm »

Thanx!!

Though I appreciate the sentiment, I don't deserve to labelled in the same class as WZ.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #41 on:** July 26, 2004, 01:07:43 pm »

OK, a little more done, starting to really look like a real ship, lol.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #42 on:** July 26, 2004, 01:47:38 pm »

Sandman... just my opinion.. but some of your best work todate !!

keep up the good job sir !

Sandman3D · « **Reply #43 on:** July 26, 2004, 02:08:34 pm »

Thank you, Old One.

J/K!!!

Really though, thanx...maybe my hand is helping me with this, cause I'm able to only do a little at a time, so I'm able to get the detailing right, rather than hurry and get it out to da public, lol.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #44 on:** July 28, 2004, 01:59:28 pm »

OK, almost finished with him (Klinks call their ships "him" rather than "her"), just need to do the "head". Whatcha think?

markyd · « **Reply #45 on:** July 28, 2004, 04:23:34 pm »

Looking great... really good!!!!

Sandman3D · « **Reply #46 on:** July 28, 2004, 06:23:53 pm »

Thanx, Markyd!

Khalee · « **Reply #47 on:** July 28, 2004, 09:41:16 pm »

looks like its coming along nicely.

Sandman3D · « **Reply #48 on:** July 28, 2004, 10:26:56 pm »

Thanx!!

I hope to have it done by the weekend...at least before monday, don't want distractions monday...b-day.

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #49 on:** July 30, 2004, 07:24:17 am »

hehehe ripe old age of ... hmmm 35 ???

Sapharite · « **Reply #50 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:10:49 am »

Sandman don't forget to mark her disruptors and forward/aft torpedoe launchers on the textures. I'll find you some data on them

Take care

Sandman3D · « **Reply #51 on:** July 30, 2004, 08:49:11 am »

Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on July 30, 2004, 07:24:17 am

hehehe ripe old age of ... hmmm 35 ???

Actually, it's 36

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #52 on:** July 30, 2004, 10:57:17 am »

Quote from: Sandman3D on July 30, 2004, 08:49:11 am

Quote from: F9thOlbuzzard on July 30, 2004, 07:24:17 am
hehehe ripe old age of ... hmmm 35 ???

Actually, it's 36

COOL !! Now get to work so you can enjoy the comming celebrations !!

markyd · « **Reply #53 on:** July 30, 2004, 11:16:41 am »

Pics show me pics....

OlBuzzard · « **Reply #54 on:** July 30, 2004, 06:45:05 pm »

Quote from: markyd on July 30, 2004, 11:16:41 am

Pics show me pics....

yeah !! What he said !! We'll just wait 'til she's done !

Sandman3D · « **Reply #55 on:** August 01, 2004, 12:14:17 pm »

OK, here's the final look before release...how is he?

Sapharite · « **Reply #56 on:** August 01, 2004, 01:47:31 pm »

Well she is nice but you should make her disruptor guns and torpedo launchers and deflector (forward). The second thing is that I haven't seen her aft... What about her aft. She should have small aft disruptor turrets like the K'Tinga has (at least some balls there aft headed) and a Torpedo Launcher... Do you wan't some data on the Vor'cha weapons?? I can get you such quick. Just let me know know. She is a very nice ships you have made but she need such small adjustments to be even grater of gratest Vor'chas made here

Keep going man and take care

I'll be continuesly monitoring this forums for your answer...

Take care man

Sandman3D · « **Reply #57 on:** August 01, 2004, 01:59:49 pm »

Thanx!!

Uhh, the schematics I have don't show torp tubes or more disruptors (they're Jackills schematics BTW), or any of the screenshots/model pics (thanx again WZ for the pics). If you're going by the stuff at DITL, there is some discrepencies in what they report and what is actually known about the ships. I'm getting ready to release her as is, but if you send me the stuff and enough people agree, I'll do a version 2.

markyd · « **Reply #58 on:** August 01, 2004, 02:17:05 pm »

Love it nice piece of work there Sandman.... very nice..

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