Topic: Let Trek lie fallow for 2 years, and then...

[SghnDubh]

Bring on the Adventures of the Enterprise C.

What do you all think?

[Rod ONeal]

One year sounds better.

[Commander Maxillius]

I say a have ST 11 play off the entire Enterprise series as nothing more than an alternate timeline that the end of the Temporal War destroyed :p

[Rallye72]

As cute as I think Jolene Blalock is in that tight uniform the current series is stale and predicatable. There's no reason to expect that a new series or movie will do any better with the current group of folks running the "franchise". 

If they want to do something new how about "Star Trek: The Klingons"  or a series that alternates story lines among the various races. No more seven year voyages following the same cast but rather one time stories following the adventures of different crews. It would be an opportunity to show case some new unknown talent and cast a wider net for writers with an actual story to tell. I'd like to see "The Klingons" because they're not always good guys - in fact a darker story line with an edge would be a relief. No more blather such as "today is a good day to die" - what crap.  It wouldn't have to run weekly - 2 to  4 good,quality shows per year would be fine.  For those of you who saw the new BS Galacticsa mini-series (which I loved and look forward to more of) if St were to move along a similiar quality story and cast line I think it would see a major revival.

My 2cents.

Rallye72

[Chris SI]

I see little value in letting it go, in fact, the further you get from activity, the harder it will be to get Trek shows on the air.

B-5 was brilliant, yet I don't see anyone making more B-5 shows.

Time off=dead in my opinion.

[AdmWaterTiger-11thFleet-]

Kirk is dead ... It's been 1 1/2 years already.

[The Pelican]

I see little value in letting it go, in fact, the further you get from activity, the harder it will be to get Trek shows on the air.

B-5 was brilliant, yet I don't see anyone making more B-5 shows.

Time off=dead in my opinion.

Actually, they still make the odd B-5 movie every now and again.

Straczynski wants to do a Trek series at the moment, but he wants it to be HIS Trek series, not to write for Enterprise.

Hopefully, B&B will take a back seat from now on, and let Manny Coto do the work, he seems to have some good ideas.

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

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[NannerSlug]

yeah, "excelsior" would have been better than enterprise by far.

[SSCF-LeRoy]

Bring on the Adventures of the Enterprise C.

What do you all think?

The problem with that idea is that everybody's gonna know what's gonna happen in the series finale ahead of time

[SghnDubh]

Bring on the Adventures of the Enterprise C.

What do you all think?

The problem with that idea is that everybody's gonna know what's gonna happen in the series finale ahead of time

yeah, but some of the best literature in the world tells you the ending first. And besides, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST TREK STORY WHERE THE GOOD GUYS DON'T WIN! 

[Mentat Jon]

I agree let it rest, OR BUILD A SHOW AROUND CAPT SULU!!!!! 

[FVA_C_ Blade_ XC]

I agree let it rest, OR BUILD A SHOW AROUND CAPT SULU!!!!! 

wurd

[Magnum357]

I personally don't want too see a continuation of Enterprise.  I thought it was nice that B & B took my advice of an alternate timeline idea, but the series is back and forth all the time and now with "Alien Nazies" on earth in... well... whatever time period that happened in, I'm just kind of tired of Enterprise.  I would like too etheir do an Excelcior Series or continue on where DS9 left off after the Dominon War. 

I mean, their is still a lot of story that can be done after the Dominoin War.  Why not show the repercutions of the Dominion War on the Federation and other Alpha quadrant powers?  And what about the Jem Hedar?  We saw in many episodes where Alpha Quadrant Jems acted different then Gamma Quadrant Jems.  Their is a sh#t load of more story available for a creative writer too work with.  I would think continuing on with a story like this can easily be done, especailly with JMS (B-5 creator) at the helm of the story writing, I think it would be a hit!  And their is still a ton of unknown space unexplored in the Alpha quadrant beyond federation space.  And still unexplored Gamma Quadrant space aswell.  Like I said, an endless amount of possible stories availabe too work with. 

I'm tired of Enterprise, lets get back too the 24th century please.   

[SghnDubh]

Yeah, but Magnum, the seek out new worlds thing's getting tired both ways: forward: Enterprise, or backwards: Voyager. Since it seems like Trek's only getting about 4 or 5 good seasons out of a run, you'd have a year of Enterprise C fighting Klingons (very fun to watch) and then maybe you switch it up a little and they fight some Romulans (also very fun to watch) and Poof, before you know it there's 2 years. Then, years 3 & 4 the Enterprise C fights BOTH Klinks & Rommies. Cool and, yes, still fun to watch. In the last season, they fight klinks, then roms, discover like maybe 1 new civilization...then they fight more Klinks in the last final battle, get blown up, and a bunch of Klingons look at each other and say, "Grazku't bla-oh-ak" or whatever Klink is for "damn that blowed up reel good. I hear they make great Ga'gh at Kittohmer." 

Hey, seriously---here's an idea: We get like 4 episodes of Enterprise C, then it gets blown up, then the rest of the series is from the Klingon's perspective. I'd watch that.

[J. Carney]

Why not do a show that doesn't focus on anyone?

I had an idea when SFC 2 first same out and people started posting 'battle scene' screenshots (SFC 1 just looked a little cartoonish, the ilumination maps made the difference) of all their models fighting each other.The game even gave me an idea for the name of the project:

Star Trek: Echos of the Empires

In this concept, you don't stay tied down to one central group of characters, or ship or even one Emipre. Instead we jump every week from one Empire to the next, seeing a glimpse of life in each one. You could come up with some far-reaching theme- like a series of Tholian raids- and play it out over a period ranging from a few weeks to a whole season, showing the events from all points of view: the Federation, the Klingons, the Romulans, the Tholians, the Cardasians, ect.

This would really let fans get to see more of the popular races that up until now have just been the 'Guest Alien of the Week' (tm).

The storylines wouldn't be limited by needing to connect with any previous or future ones other than a simple continuity of events. None of the soap opera type "Die and come back on another show or network" situations. If the Romulans destroy the Intrepid in one episode, it can't show up in another show unless it takes place in the past, and Intrepid still has to die at the hands of the Imperium.

With the advantages that computer models present over the studio models- both in monitary and physical terms- you could have the fleets for every race in the show stored on computer in less than 10 GB of space for really good, high-res models. You could put these ships through any necessary paces with no need for building new models for every individual ship, and you could have as many of each kind of ship as you need in any shot.

Sets and costumes for this idea would be no more demanding than current Trek shows, since you would use the same general set model for each ship of a class and have to keep a sizable backstock of each type of uniform simply to outfit the extras.

The studio would even save money on actors, because they could use fresh talent (which aare cheaper to begin with), like extras on another show that might be ready to take the next step; this would also limit the influence of the 'Superstar' syndrome on contract issues, preventing an actor from demanding an exorbinant salary for his work.

It sounds like a good idea to me... oppinions?

[Magnum357]

SghnDubh, a new series wouldn't have too focus on exploration.  Their is a whole crap load of stuff happening in the "lost Era" and after the Dominion War that would make an awsome show.  it wouldn't have too deal with huge wars and such.  For example, what ever the main focus of the series would be, it could have a main arc of the political tentions that occured after the Dominion War.  Or where a Dominion Civil War occurs that destroy lots of stuff in the Gamma Quadrant the Feds, Klingons, Roms need too restore order too the area but have a problem of a new 'man of fest destiny" with each empire.  Heck, have a series about Section 31 involved in all this to.  I'm just saying if JMS was too take over the helm of Star Trek story writing, I really think the guy could come up with some very unique and intriging story ideas, more then just "lets start a war and blow things up so it looks cool". 

Paramont should seriously consider letting this guy take the helm of Trek.

[Magnum357]

Hey J. Carney, a very neat concept their too.  It might be hard too implement into a series, but very interesting idea.

[J. Carney]

Hey J. Carney, a very neat concept their too.  It might be hard too implement into a series, but very interesting idea.

That was the thing, Magnum... it isn't really a 'series' as such. It's more like a collection of short stories on a common theme, like the Strange New Worlds story contest that they made collection books out of each year for a while there.

The only series-like aspect would be that it had to maintain continuity with the accepted Trek timeline and with the events that happen within the show. It would be no harder than a series format- in fact, it might be easier, since you don't have to be linier with the time frame. The action can take place anywhere, anywhen- and as long as you keep that outcome the same from show to show, you don't hvae any other limits.

[Merlinfmct87]

J. Carney's idea is a good one, no shock.

I think Enterprise can be saved. Mind you, I stopped watching a while back(I got sick of Xindi) but the episodes before that were top notch.

More DS9 though? I think I'd retch.

Maybe another TOS show? It'd be a real thrill for SFB fans . It would also give more oppertunity to showcase the Romulans in that era--the way the first TOS series was going to go in the script-writing stages. Andromedans might even make an apperance.

Merlin