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IKV Nemesis D7L

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Atlantis found? In Spain?
« on: June 06, 2004, 04:41:26 pm »
Link to BBC story

Quote:

A scientist says he may have found remains of the lost city of Atlantis.

Satellite photos of southern Spain reveal features on the ground appearing to match descriptions made by Greek scholar Plato of the fabled utopia.

Dr Rainer Kuehne thinks the "island" of Atlantis simply referred to a region of the southern Spanish coast destroyed by a flood between 800 BC and 500 BC.




Perhaps another myth is being found to have a core of reality.  

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2004, 12:45:20 am »
What? Again? Man that place really gets around...

J. Carney

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2004, 01:30:00 am »
Quote:

What? Again? Man that place really gets around...  




More than J. Lo...

first the Med, then the Bahamas, now the coast of Spain.

Least it's smart enough to go where the beaches are topless  .

I saw that story two days ago. I think that this actually makes a prettygood case. For the first time there is geological evidence that matches Plato's discription almost to the word. No more mysterious undersea locations or roads leading out to sea and vanishing.

Now all we need to do is get a team on sight and talk Spain into letting them dig. I'd spend a summer in the mud to help find Atlantas.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by J. Carney »

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2004, 01:38:01 am »
Oh, I believe it exists. The ancient and esteemed historian is not known for lying. I just think it's funny how every odd archeaologist's favorite set of ruins gets the atlantis treatment. There have even been a few claims for central america. And those too said the description matches plato. Still I hope they find it. I even hope that this latest is it. it would be great.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2004, 01:38:46 am by Stormbringer »

Toten

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2004, 03:05:00 am »
There is much more to the atlantis myth than is generally known.

One tid bit I have found in readings relates to the account from solon referring to atlantis being destroyed 9000 years before the plato account (as related by the egyptian scibes to solon).  At the time the egyptians used 4 different calander methods, one of which was to use lunar months as "years".  This is cited quite a bit in the old testament when it refers to alot of the early patriarchs living 500+ years, what they meant was 500+ lunar months, so a patriarch that lived for 720yrs lived for 60 solar years.

Another tid bit is the guanches who lived on the canary islands, they spoke a language that has or is possibly the root of alot of mediterranian languages.  They had a local legend about their homeland being swallowed by the sea.  They were fair skinned and had red or blond hair.  Unfortunately they were exterminated by the portugese before much could be learned.

The portugese also had in their possession advanced maps such as the pieri reis map as well as others, indicating that at some point in the past far more exploration of the planet had been done that is commonly accepted.

The exploration done during the early chinese dynastic period relates visiting many strange lands which with some "creative interpretation" can be set in many locals.  But the point here is that exploration to far off lands was government policy for at least one chinese dynasty.

Prodidious pyramid building seems to occur literally across the planet at almost the same latitude from central america to north africa, across the middle east and india and southern china.  All the cultures that built such pyramids had a fanatical reverence for precession, calenders, time keeping, astronomy and how to relate them all into their religeon.  For the most part the only other pyramids in quantity occur in chile and those are located within a very localized spot.  Almost implying a new cultural growth that died out or the decay of an older transplanted culture.

There are many tales and legends of fair skinned people with red or blond hair in north america who came from across the sea to trade with north american indians in the bronze age.  The so called white indians.

Many new world tribal myths held that teachers, civilization givers, "gods" came from across the sea and taught new world cultures advanced knowledge then they left.  A group of these people apparently ran the full lenght of north and south america interacting with locals along the way.

There are many anomolus structures around the world that bear remarkable symalarities in construction technique and antiquity that seem to imply that all were either in contact at construction or were an amazing coincidence.  A case in point is the building lintel staples made from copper used in the orsiron in egypt and the city of Tiahunaco.  No one knows who built the Osiron but it was under Ramses II's buildings at that site.  Tiahunaco on the other hand has marks on the stones implying that the builders had first hand or at least records of what mastadons looked like as well as other late ice age animals.

The number 72 or multiples of this number appear in many buildings around the world and in many civilization creation myths.  The number 72 has great significance for preccession of the zodiac.

There is growing evidence to support the theory that the bronze age ended with litterally a ball of fire, or several hundreds.  I have read several sources that seem to indicate, believe it or not, that Circa 1198 B.C.E. about late october or early november, fragments from the comet Encke impacted earth from the mid atlantic to northern australia over the course of several days.  Some evidence of this is scattered acrosss europe but is not limited to carbon dating of entire forests that burned to the ground, hundreds of townships and villages, significant depopulation across the entire european land mass, complete collapse of at least 6 different bronze age cultures and also multiple legends/myths that refer to the "sea people" stricking out on conquest after their homeland was destroyed.  The months of late oct and early nov were indicated as being the time of impact in the theory related to two things, the second comming of the taurid meterors and the universal reverence of this time of the year for death and death related festivals world wide.

If Solon's account is to be given any credence then there may have been a world trade in copper at the time of the end of the bronze age.  It would make sense that the culture that commanded or navigated the oceans with some level of competency would be in a very good position to control and interact with many diverse cultures with whom they traded.

There is enough evidence of myth to support a world trading culture at the end of the bronze age.  Whether they were known as the sea people, the pirates, the phonecians, the viracocas, the white indians, the guaranche's ancestors or many other such names, all myths tend to agree that they suddenly and irrevocably dissappeared either after complete loss of contact or after a suicidal military attack.


Refer to this tid bit for you who dont know some local history for michigan....(note that the mines were abandoned circa 1200BCE)
http://www.exploringthenorth.com/cophistory/cophist.html

There are many things out there to make you go hmmmmmmmm.

Remember Iliios was a legend till Schiemann found it.  

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2004, 09:41:40 am »
Interesting. Thanks fortakingthe time to post this.

J. Carney

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2004, 11:24:09 am »
Very good read man... definately thanks for the post.

The part about calling a 'month' a 'year' really could put a lot of the Old Testiment time gafes into prospective if it were widly accepted by the churches.
 

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2004, 11:36:49 am »
They actually are  in theology and divinity schools. They bring folks like methuselah into perspective. Though the adjustment may not be the same as mentioned. This is done by analysing old judaic conventions of keeping track of time and so forth.

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2004, 11:39:39 am »
You might have mentioned the south american coca leaves found in the bellies of egyptian mummies from that period. Coca grows no where else but the americas.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2004, 12:41:02 pm by Stormbringer »

AlienLXIX

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2004, 01:13:39 pm »
Quote:

There is much more to the atlantis myth than is generally known.
<snip>

There are many tales and legends of fair skinned people with red or blond hair in north america who came from across the sea to trade with north american indians in the bronze age.  The so called white indians.

Many new world tribal myths held that teachers, civilization givers, "gods" came from across the sea and taught new world cultures advanced knowledge then they left.  A group of these people apparently ran the full lenght of north and south america interacting with locals along the way.

<snip>  




First off, excelent post Toten!

The Hawaiian even had their myths about fair skinned gods.  Capt. Cook was mistaken for one when he first came to the islands.  Does that mean that these sea peoples traveled around the whole world?  

I will have to dig deeper into this legend.  Hummm the Hawaiians came from the South Pacific but where did the people of the South Pacific come from?  I should know this . . .

Oh and being born with 'ehu (red) hair made you very special for some reason . . .  I wonder if these sea people intermarried . . .

Aloha,
Amy  

TBC

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2004, 01:45:55 pm »
Quote:

You might have mentioned the south american coca leaves found in the bellies of egyptian mummies from that period. Coca grows no where else but the americas.  




There isnt much evidence to prove or disprove that a strain of cocoa didnt exist in ancient egypt.  It is possible such a plant died out or was harvested to extinction in egypt.  Such as IIRC the blue lotus was harvested to extinction, but is shown on many of the hieroglyphs on egyption walls.

refer to the attached link for an real education about settlement of north america, it links to the copper mines link above in my other posting.

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/bronze.htm  


toten at work
« Last Edit: June 08, 2004, 02:14:26 pm by TBC »

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2004, 01:50:26 pm »
I thought a dna analysis was done? If not then it should lay such concerns to rest. Also the blue lotus is not quite so extinct as was thought. Ressesive Trait breeding has brought it back after a fashion. Though you'll not find them here on the open market as it has a psychotropic effect if I recall egyptian history correctly.

TBC

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2004, 01:52:20 pm »
Yes the blue lotus was analagous to sniffing glue.  

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2004, 04:41:26 pm »
Link to BBC story

Quote:

A scientist says he may have found remains of the lost city of Atlantis.

Satellite photos of southern Spain reveal features on the ground appearing to match descriptions made by Greek scholar Plato of the fabled utopia.

Dr Rainer Kuehne thinks the "island" of Atlantis simply referred to a region of the southern Spanish coast destroyed by a flood between 800 BC and 500 BC.




Perhaps another myth is being found to have a core of reality.  

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2004, 12:45:20 am »
What? Again? Man that place really gets around...

J. Carney

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2004, 01:30:00 am »
Quote:

What? Again? Man that place really gets around...  




More than J. Lo...

first the Med, then the Bahamas, now the coast of Spain.

Least it's smart enough to go where the beaches are topless  .

I saw that story two days ago. I think that this actually makes a prettygood case. For the first time there is geological evidence that matches Plato's discription almost to the word. No more mysterious undersea locations or roads leading out to sea and vanishing.

Now all we need to do is get a team on sight and talk Spain into letting them dig. I'd spend a summer in the mud to help find Atlantas.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by J. Carney »

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2004, 01:38:01 am »
Oh, I believe it exists. The ancient and esteemed historian is not known for lying. I just think it's funny how every odd archeaologist's favorite set of ruins gets the atlantis treatment. There have even been a few claims for central america. And those too said the description matches plato. Still I hope they find it. I even hope that this latest is it. it would be great.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2004, 01:38:46 am by Stormbringer »

Toten

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2004, 03:05:00 am »
There is much more to the atlantis myth than is generally known.

One tid bit I have found in readings relates to the account from solon referring to atlantis being destroyed 9000 years before the plato account (as related by the egyptian scibes to solon).  At the time the egyptians used 4 different calander methods, one of which was to use lunar months as "years".  This is cited quite a bit in the old testament when it refers to alot of the early patriarchs living 500+ years, what they meant was 500+ lunar months, so a patriarch that lived for 720yrs lived for 60 solar years.

Another tid bit is the guanches who lived on the canary islands, they spoke a language that has or is possibly the root of alot of mediterranian languages.  They had a local legend about their homeland being swallowed by the sea.  They were fair skinned and had red or blond hair.  Unfortunately they were exterminated by the portugese before much could be learned.

The portugese also had in their possession advanced maps such as the pieri reis map as well as others, indicating that at some point in the past far more exploration of the planet had been done that is commonly accepted.

The exploration done during the early chinese dynastic period relates visiting many strange lands which with some "creative interpretation" can be set in many locals.  But the point here is that exploration to far off lands was government policy for at least one chinese dynasty.

Prodidious pyramid building seems to occur literally across the planet at almost the same latitude from central america to north africa, across the middle east and india and southern china.  All the cultures that built such pyramids had a fanatical reverence for precession, calenders, time keeping, astronomy and how to relate them all into their religeon.  For the most part the only other pyramids in quantity occur in chile and those are located within a very localized spot.  Almost implying a new cultural growth that died out or the decay of an older transplanted culture.

There are many tales and legends of fair skinned people with red or blond hair in north america who came from across the sea to trade with north american indians in the bronze age.  The so called white indians.

Many new world tribal myths held that teachers, civilization givers, "gods" came from across the sea and taught new world cultures advanced knowledge then they left.  A group of these people apparently ran the full lenght of north and south america interacting with locals along the way.

There are many anomolus structures around the world that bear remarkable symalarities in construction technique and antiquity that seem to imply that all were either in contact at construction or were an amazing coincidence.  A case in point is the building lintel staples made from copper used in the orsiron in egypt and the city of Tiahunaco.  No one knows who built the Osiron but it was under Ramses II's buildings at that site.  Tiahunaco on the other hand has marks on the stones implying that the builders had first hand or at least records of what mastadons looked like as well as other late ice age animals.

The number 72 or multiples of this number appear in many buildings around the world and in many civilization creation myths.  The number 72 has great significance for preccession of the zodiac.

There is growing evidence to support the theory that the bronze age ended with litterally a ball of fire, or several hundreds.  I have read several sources that seem to indicate, believe it or not, that Circa 1198 B.C.E. about late october or early november, fragments from the comet Encke impacted earth from the mid atlantic to northern australia over the course of several days.  Some evidence of this is scattered acrosss europe but is not limited to carbon dating of entire forests that burned to the ground, hundreds of townships and villages, significant depopulation across the entire european land mass, complete collapse of at least 6 different bronze age cultures and also multiple legends/myths that refer to the "sea people" stricking out on conquest after their homeland was destroyed.  The months of late oct and early nov were indicated as being the time of impact in the theory related to two things, the second comming of the taurid meterors and the universal reverence of this time of the year for death and death related festivals world wide.

If Solon's account is to be given any credence then there may have been a world trade in copper at the time of the end of the bronze age.  It would make sense that the culture that commanded or navigated the oceans with some level of competency would be in a very good position to control and interact with many diverse cultures with whom they traded.

There is enough evidence of myth to support a world trading culture at the end of the bronze age.  Whether they were known as the sea people, the pirates, the phonecians, the viracocas, the white indians, the guaranche's ancestors or many other such names, all myths tend to agree that they suddenly and irrevocably dissappeared either after complete loss of contact or after a suicidal military attack.


Refer to this tid bit for you who dont know some local history for michigan....(note that the mines were abandoned circa 1200BCE)
http://www.exploringthenorth.com/cophistory/cophist.html

There are many things out there to make you go hmmmmmmmm.

Remember Iliios was a legend till Schiemann found it.  

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2004, 09:41:40 am »
Interesting. Thanks fortakingthe time to post this.

J. Carney

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2004, 11:24:09 am »
Very good read man... definately thanks for the post.

The part about calling a 'month' a 'year' really could put a lot of the Old Testiment time gafes into prospective if it were widly accepted by the churches.
 

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2004, 11:36:49 am »
They actually are  in theology and divinity schools. They bring folks like methuselah into perspective. Though the adjustment may not be the same as mentioned. This is done by analysing old judaic conventions of keeping track of time and so forth.

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2004, 11:39:39 am »
You might have mentioned the south american coca leaves found in the bellies of egyptian mummies from that period. Coca grows no where else but the americas.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2004, 12:41:02 pm by Stormbringer »

AlienLXIX

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2004, 01:13:39 pm »
Quote:

There is much more to the atlantis myth than is generally known.
<snip>

There are many tales and legends of fair skinned people with red or blond hair in north america who came from across the sea to trade with north american indians in the bronze age.  The so called white indians.

Many new world tribal myths held that teachers, civilization givers, "gods" came from across the sea and taught new world cultures advanced knowledge then they left.  A group of these people apparently ran the full lenght of north and south america interacting with locals along the way.

<snip>  




First off, excelent post Toten!

The Hawaiian even had their myths about fair skinned gods.  Capt. Cook was mistaken for one when he first came to the islands.  Does that mean that these sea peoples traveled around the whole world?  

I will have to dig deeper into this legend.  Hummm the Hawaiians came from the South Pacific but where did the people of the South Pacific come from?  I should know this . . .

Oh and being born with 'ehu (red) hair made you very special for some reason . . .  I wonder if these sea people intermarried . . .

Aloha,
Amy  

TBC

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2004, 01:45:55 pm »
Quote:

You might have mentioned the south american coca leaves found in the bellies of egyptian mummies from that period. Coca grows no where else but the americas.  




There isnt much evidence to prove or disprove that a strain of cocoa didnt exist in ancient egypt.  It is possible such a plant died out or was harvested to extinction in egypt.  Such as IIRC the blue lotus was harvested to extinction, but is shown on many of the hieroglyphs on egyption walls.

refer to the attached link for an real education about settlement of north america, it links to the copper mines link above in my other posting.

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/bronze.htm  


toten at work
« Last Edit: June 08, 2004, 02:14:26 pm by TBC »

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2004, 01:50:26 pm »
I thought a dna analysis was done? If not then it should lay such concerns to rest. Also the blue lotus is not quite so extinct as was thought. Ressesive Trait breeding has brought it back after a fashion. Though you'll not find them here on the open market as it has a psychotropic effect if I recall egyptian history correctly.

TBC

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2004, 01:52:20 pm »
Yes the blue lotus was analagous to sniffing glue.  

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2004, 04:41:26 pm »
Link to BBC story

Quote:

A scientist says he may have found remains of the lost city of Atlantis.

Satellite photos of southern Spain reveal features on the ground appearing to match descriptions made by Greek scholar Plato of the fabled utopia.

Dr Rainer Kuehne thinks the "island" of Atlantis simply referred to a region of the southern Spanish coast destroyed by a flood between 800 BC and 500 BC.




Perhaps another myth is being found to have a core of reality.  

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2004, 12:45:20 am »
What? Again? Man that place really gets around...

J. Carney

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2004, 01:30:00 am »
Quote:

What? Again? Man that place really gets around...  




More than J. Lo...

first the Med, then the Bahamas, now the coast of Spain.

Least it's smart enough to go where the beaches are topless  .

I saw that story two days ago. I think that this actually makes a prettygood case. For the first time there is geological evidence that matches Plato's discription almost to the word. No more mysterious undersea locations or roads leading out to sea and vanishing.

Now all we need to do is get a team on sight and talk Spain into letting them dig. I'd spend a summer in the mud to help find Atlantas.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by J. Carney »

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2004, 01:38:01 am »
Oh, I believe it exists. The ancient and esteemed historian is not known for lying. I just think it's funny how every odd archeaologist's favorite set of ruins gets the atlantis treatment. There have even been a few claims for central america. And those too said the description matches plato. Still I hope they find it. I even hope that this latest is it. it would be great.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2004, 01:38:46 am by Stormbringer »

Toten

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2004, 03:05:00 am »
There is much more to the atlantis myth than is generally known.

One tid bit I have found in readings relates to the account from solon referring to atlantis being destroyed 9000 years before the plato account (as related by the egyptian scibes to solon).  At the time the egyptians used 4 different calander methods, one of which was to use lunar months as "years".  This is cited quite a bit in the old testament when it refers to alot of the early patriarchs living 500+ years, what they meant was 500+ lunar months, so a patriarch that lived for 720yrs lived for 60 solar years.

Another tid bit is the guanches who lived on the canary islands, they spoke a language that has or is possibly the root of alot of mediterranian languages.  They had a local legend about their homeland being swallowed by the sea.  They were fair skinned and had red or blond hair.  Unfortunately they were exterminated by the portugese before much could be learned.

The portugese also had in their possession advanced maps such as the pieri reis map as well as others, indicating that at some point in the past far more exploration of the planet had been done that is commonly accepted.

The exploration done during the early chinese dynastic period relates visiting many strange lands which with some "creative interpretation" can be set in many locals.  But the point here is that exploration to far off lands was government policy for at least one chinese dynasty.

Prodidious pyramid building seems to occur literally across the planet at almost the same latitude from central america to north africa, across the middle east and india and southern china.  All the cultures that built such pyramids had a fanatical reverence for precession, calenders, time keeping, astronomy and how to relate them all into their religeon.  For the most part the only other pyramids in quantity occur in chile and those are located within a very localized spot.  Almost implying a new cultural growth that died out or the decay of an older transplanted culture.

There are many tales and legends of fair skinned people with red or blond hair in north america who came from across the sea to trade with north american indians in the bronze age.  The so called white indians.

Many new world tribal myths held that teachers, civilization givers, "gods" came from across the sea and taught new world cultures advanced knowledge then they left.  A group of these people apparently ran the full lenght of north and south america interacting with locals along the way.

There are many anomolus structures around the world that bear remarkable symalarities in construction technique and antiquity that seem to imply that all were either in contact at construction or were an amazing coincidence.  A case in point is the building lintel staples made from copper used in the orsiron in egypt and the city of Tiahunaco.  No one knows who built the Osiron but it was under Ramses II's buildings at that site.  Tiahunaco on the other hand has marks on the stones implying that the builders had first hand or at least records of what mastadons looked like as well as other late ice age animals.

The number 72 or multiples of this number appear in many buildings around the world and in many civilization creation myths.  The number 72 has great significance for preccession of the zodiac.

There is growing evidence to support the theory that the bronze age ended with litterally a ball of fire, or several hundreds.  I have read several sources that seem to indicate, believe it or not, that Circa 1198 B.C.E. about late october or early november, fragments from the comet Encke impacted earth from the mid atlantic to northern australia over the course of several days.  Some evidence of this is scattered acrosss europe but is not limited to carbon dating of entire forests that burned to the ground, hundreds of townships and villages, significant depopulation across the entire european land mass, complete collapse of at least 6 different bronze age cultures and also multiple legends/myths that refer to the "sea people" stricking out on conquest after their homeland was destroyed.  The months of late oct and early nov were indicated as being the time of impact in the theory related to two things, the second comming of the taurid meterors and the universal reverence of this time of the year for death and death related festivals world wide.

If Solon's account is to be given any credence then there may have been a world trade in copper at the time of the end of the bronze age.  It would make sense that the culture that commanded or navigated the oceans with some level of competency would be in a very good position to control and interact with many diverse cultures with whom they traded.

There is enough evidence of myth to support a world trading culture at the end of the bronze age.  Whether they were known as the sea people, the pirates, the phonecians, the viracocas, the white indians, the guaranche's ancestors or many other such names, all myths tend to agree that they suddenly and irrevocably dissappeared either after complete loss of contact or after a suicidal military attack.


Refer to this tid bit for you who dont know some local history for michigan....(note that the mines were abandoned circa 1200BCE)
http://www.exploringthenorth.com/cophistory/cophist.html

There are many things out there to make you go hmmmmmmmm.

Remember Iliios was a legend till Schiemann found it.  

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2004, 09:41:40 am »
Interesting. Thanks fortakingthe time to post this.

J. Carney

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2004, 11:24:09 am »
Very good read man... definately thanks for the post.

The part about calling a 'month' a 'year' really could put a lot of the Old Testiment time gafes into prospective if it were widly accepted by the churches.
 

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2004, 11:36:49 am »
They actually are  in theology and divinity schools. They bring folks like methuselah into perspective. Though the adjustment may not be the same as mentioned. This is done by analysing old judaic conventions of keeping track of time and so forth.

Stormbringer

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2004, 11:39:39 am »
You might have mentioned the south american coca leaves found in the bellies of egyptian mummies from that period. Coca grows no where else but the americas.
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AlienLXIX

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2004, 01:13:39 pm »
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There is much more to the atlantis myth than is generally known.
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There are many tales and legends of fair skinned people with red or blond hair in north america who came from across the sea to trade with north american indians in the bronze age.  The so called white indians.

Many new world tribal myths held that teachers, civilization givers, "gods" came from across the sea and taught new world cultures advanced knowledge then they left.  A group of these people apparently ran the full lenght of north and south america interacting with locals along the way.

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First off, excelent post Toten!

The Hawaiian even had their myths about fair skinned gods.  Capt. Cook was mistaken for one when he first came to the islands.  Does that mean that these sea peoples traveled around the whole world?  

I will have to dig deeper into this legend.  Hummm the Hawaiians came from the South Pacific but where did the people of the South Pacific come from?  I should know this . . .

Oh and being born with 'ehu (red) hair made you very special for some reason . . .  I wonder if these sea people intermarried . . .

Aloha,
Amy  

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2004, 01:45:55 pm »
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You might have mentioned the south american coca leaves found in the bellies of egyptian mummies from that period. Coca grows no where else but the americas.  




There isnt much evidence to prove or disprove that a strain of cocoa didnt exist in ancient egypt.  It is possible such a plant died out or was harvested to extinction in egypt.  Such as IIRC the blue lotus was harvested to extinction, but is shown on many of the hieroglyphs on egyption walls.

refer to the attached link for an real education about settlement of north america, it links to the copper mines link above in my other posting.

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/bronze.htm  


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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2004, 01:50:26 pm »
I thought a dna analysis was done? If not then it should lay such concerns to rest. Also the blue lotus is not quite so extinct as was thought. Ressesive Trait breeding has brought it back after a fashion. Though you'll not find them here on the open market as it has a psychotropic effect if I recall egyptian history correctly.

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Re: Atlantis found? In Spain?
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2004, 01:52:20 pm »
Yes the blue lotus was analagous to sniffing glue.