Topic: SFC2 OP Cloak ????  (Read 2951 times)

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nx_adam_1701

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SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« on: June 06, 2004, 03:10:34 am »
OK here it goes, when i tractor a vessel that has a cloaking device, he is able to cloak while being tractored, last i checked hes not suppose to do that, next thing is while he is cloaked and tractored he manages to launch a WW when i fire plasmas, thats BS, i recently deleted the game a reinstalled and repatched from org to 2500 to 2552, this never has happened before, but is this a sfb thing where people complained and it was implemented or am i right in assuming this is a bug, a ship cannot cloak while being tractored nevertheless launch shuttles, and remain cloaked

adam out

Age

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2004, 03:20:58 am »
  You are right they aren't suppose to be able to cloak while being tractored I have done this yet so let me give it a try.They can luanch wild weasels though when cloaked and that is for all versions I not sure about tractoring though I would use a stronger beam strengh on your tractor panel and use a couple of t-bomps aswell.I hope this helps.  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2004, 03:23:09 am »
Hmmmm the wild weasel, doesnt bother me much, because im use to that crap happening when firing plasmas, but the fact is tractoring is my only assurance the plasmas will hit, if the vessel can cloak while tractored and luanch a WW, then wats the point, my plasmas will never hit

adam out

thx

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2004, 03:27:32 am »
Ok another thing, is there anyway to stop the WW ability, I haven seen that some of my ships arent allowed to convert normal shuttles to SS, and i have tried, some of my ship carry 6 shuttles and the only conversion allowed is the WW and GAS but the SS is black, cant click on it, so is there away to eliminate that so noone not even the AI is allowed to launch WW

adam out

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2004, 03:30:46 am »
From the patch readme:

Quote:

3) Being tractored will no longer prevent cloak from being brought on-line.
4) If a ship being tractored cloaks, the ship holding the cloaker will maintain lock.





So long as you maintain lockon your plasmas (and other seeking weapons) can still hit.  Missiles, suicide shuttles, scatterpacks, all should work.  BUT since he is cloaked he can't fire defensively or at you.    

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2004, 03:32:48 am »
Yes that would be nice but remember hes launching WW theres no hope, i cant get him, hes like immune to everything lol


adam out

DonKarnage

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2004, 03:55:53 am »
ss work if you have mine, the shuttle use a mine to became a ss only, if your out of mine then you can't have ss, and for sp well if you don't have drone you wont be able to make one.

Praxis

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2004, 09:54:49 am »
Lock on WW.
Click on a disruptor bank or two.
Fire.
Laugh at the poor fool piloting it.
Lock on the big enemy.
Fire plasmas.
Laugh harder.

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2004, 10:07:40 am »
Quote:

Yes that would be nice but remember hes launching WW theres no hope, i cant get him, hes like immune to everything lol


adam out  




1/ Fire one plasma at a time.  Don't fire the 2nd until the 1st has hit or the WW has expired.  He likely won't launch a weasel to stop one plasma (use a psuedo barrage if you want him to waste the weasel).

2/ Drag him at a speed above 4.  You must be moving speed 4 or below to make use of a weasel.    

3dot14

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2004, 10:24:01 am »
Praxis, even destroyed weasel still functions for a short while.

While cloak does not prevent weasel launch, a tractor DOES. The tractored ship will be unable to launch shuttle (including fighter, and PF) of any kind while under tractor. I don't think this is overriden with cloak. (Can someone check?)

Corbomite

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2004, 11:03:43 am »
From the Patch Read Me:


Quote:

3) Being tractored will no longer prevent cloak from being brought on-line.





You may cloak while tractored, but you may not launch shuttles of any kind while tractored.

And FYI, no one pilots a WW. It's robotic.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Corbomite »

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2004, 08:13:16 pm »
Thanks guys, yup thats what im wondering, the simpliest question, is a vessel allowed to launch any shuttles while being tractored, i thought no but it seems i was wrong, i read the patch readme, sorry for not reading it b4 posting, but that readme is huge lol, anyways thanks alot, and Don, thanks for the info on the SS and SP, I had no idea about the mine thingy

adam out

nx_adam_1701

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SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2004, 03:10:34 am »
OK here it goes, when i tractor a vessel that has a cloaking device, he is able to cloak while being tractored, last i checked hes not suppose to do that, next thing is while he is cloaked and tractored he manages to launch a WW when i fire plasmas, thats BS, i recently deleted the game a reinstalled and repatched from org to 2500 to 2552, this never has happened before, but is this a sfb thing where people complained and it was implemented or am i right in assuming this is a bug, a ship cannot cloak while being tractored nevertheless launch shuttles, and remain cloaked

adam out

Age

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2004, 03:20:58 am »
  You are right they aren't suppose to be able to cloak while being tractored I have done this yet so let me give it a try.They can luanch wild weasels though when cloaked and that is for all versions I not sure about tractoring though I would use a stronger beam strengh on your tractor panel and use a couple of t-bomps aswell.I hope this helps.  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2004, 03:23:09 am »
Hmmmm the wild weasel, doesnt bother me much, because im use to that crap happening when firing plasmas, but the fact is tractoring is my only assurance the plasmas will hit, if the vessel can cloak while tractored and luanch a WW, then wats the point, my plasmas will never hit

adam out

thx

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2004, 03:27:32 am »
Ok another thing, is there anyway to stop the WW ability, I haven seen that some of my ships arent allowed to convert normal shuttles to SS, and i have tried, some of my ship carry 6 shuttles and the only conversion allowed is the WW and GAS but the SS is black, cant click on it, so is there away to eliminate that so noone not even the AI is allowed to launch WW

adam out

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2004, 03:30:46 am »
From the patch readme:

Quote:

3) Being tractored will no longer prevent cloak from being brought on-line.
4) If a ship being tractored cloaks, the ship holding the cloaker will maintain lock.





So long as you maintain lockon your plasmas (and other seeking weapons) can still hit.  Missiles, suicide shuttles, scatterpacks, all should work.  BUT since he is cloaked he can't fire defensively or at you.    

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2004, 03:32:48 am »
Yes that would be nice but remember hes launching WW theres no hope, i cant get him, hes like immune to everything lol


adam out

DonKarnage

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2004, 03:55:53 am »
ss work if you have mine, the shuttle use a mine to became a ss only, if your out of mine then you can't have ss, and for sp well if you don't have drone you wont be able to make one.

Praxis

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2004, 09:54:49 am »
Lock on WW.
Click on a disruptor bank or two.
Fire.
Laugh at the poor fool piloting it.
Lock on the big enemy.
Fire plasmas.
Laugh harder.

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2004, 10:07:40 am »
Quote:

Yes that would be nice but remember hes launching WW theres no hope, i cant get him, hes like immune to everything lol


adam out  




1/ Fire one plasma at a time.  Don't fire the 2nd until the 1st has hit or the WW has expired.  He likely won't launch a weasel to stop one plasma (use a psuedo barrage if you want him to waste the weasel).

2/ Drag him at a speed above 4.  You must be moving speed 4 or below to make use of a weasel.    

3dot14

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2004, 10:24:01 am »
Praxis, even destroyed weasel still functions for a short while.

While cloak does not prevent weasel launch, a tractor DOES. The tractored ship will be unable to launch shuttle (including fighter, and PF) of any kind while under tractor. I don't think this is overriden with cloak. (Can someone check?)

Corbomite

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2004, 11:03:43 am »
From the Patch Read Me:


Quote:

3) Being tractored will no longer prevent cloak from being brought on-line.





You may cloak while tractored, but you may not launch shuttles of any kind while tractored.

And FYI, no one pilots a WW. It's robotic.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Corbomite »

nx_adam_1701

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Re: SFC2 OP Cloak ????
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2004, 08:13:16 pm »
Thanks guys, yup thats what im wondering, the simpliest question, is a vessel allowed to launch any shuttles while being tractored, i thought no but it seems i was wrong, i read the patch readme, sorry for not reading it b4 posting, but that readme is huge lol, anyways thanks alot, and Don, thanks for the info on the SS and SP, I had no idea about the mine thingy

adam out