Topic: 5 new Seltorians from Desty Nova

[Merlinfmct87]

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Thanks for your interest, guys. I don't post here very much but rest assured that I am busily working behind-the-scenes to produce all these hundreds of little ships. If your favorite ship or one you're merely interested in hasn't come up yet, don't worry, it will.  

You know...

Now that you mention it...

I would like some Early Years ships, like the F-YDN or somesuch. I'm making some in the mod I'm in and models are quite scarce. More Andromedans are always welcome, particularly the Conquerer type hypothetical designs. That really got my creative juices going. This would all be after J. Carney's Selts, of course.

Maybe a how-to guide for us wanna-be's? lol

The ships you make are top-notch. They are beautiful, and that ain't easy considering that the Selts are cockroaches.

Take care, be well,

Merlin  

[Marauth]

As far as the Andromedans go I wanna see the Devastator battleship, that'd really make you require a change of underwear if you saw one of them on the viewscreen.

I'm actually really interested in seeing more ISC, the Star Cruiser is one of my fav SFB designs and I hope Desty can make the others stand out aswell (the Battleship is the only other 'official' design that really differs from the Cruiser and it didn't even exist (in the historical campaign)

[Rod O'neal]

Funny you should mention the Devestator. It's not quite yet available, but  HERE'S  a look at it's screen shot page. It's definately big and bad. Lot's of green glowies on it too.  

[Kaenyne]

Oooh..I like that double hull look.

[Rod O'neal]

It's not real noticable in the pic, but the engines and the area where they connect to the hull has some real nice details. Lots of PA's and weapons HP's as well. I especially like that he actually models the weapons. A lot of models just have them textured on, if they are there at all.  

[J. Carney]

Susse-thrai'fealirh!!!

I count 22 Phaser 2's and 5 Heavy Tractor-Repullsor Beams.

Fvadt, kllhe'mnhe, imirrhlhhse!!!

I hope to never see one of those in my viewscreen... cause it'll be the last thing you ever see there.
 

[Desty_Nova]

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You know...

Now that you mention it...

I would like some Early Years ships, like the F-YDN or somesuch. I'm making some in the mod I'm in and models are quite scarce. More Andromedans are always welcome, particularly the Conquerer type hypothetical designs. That really got my creative juices going. This would all be after J. Carney's Selts, of course.

Maybe a how-to guide for us wanna-be's? lol

Actually, early years fed ships have the same hulls as their General War counterparts. It's just, as technologies advanced, they managed to stuff more systems and weapons inside the same-sized hull. So an early years Fed DN would look the same as a GW one, just with fewer weapons.

As for more Conqueror-esque oddities, there aren't really any more like that in SFB. It was basically a bad guess by the galactics. However, eventually ADB is going to release a module for SFB called "The Andromedan Threat File", which will consist entirely of 'bad guesses'.   When that comes out, you better believe I'm gonna make all those ships!

As for a guide, what sort of things would you want me to discuss in this guide if i were to write it?

Thanks again for your interest, guys.  
 

[Merlinfmct87]

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You know...

Now that you mention it...

I would like some Early Years ships, like the F-YDN or somesuch. I'm making some in the mod I'm in and models are quite scarce. More Andromedans are always welcome, particularly the Conquerer type hypothetical designs. That really got my creative juices going. This would all be after J. Carney's Selts, of course.

Maybe a how-to guide for us wanna-be's? lol

Actually, early years fed ships have the same hulls as their General War counterparts. It's just, as technologies advanced, they managed to stuff more systems and weapons inside the same-sized hull. So an early years Fed DN would look the same as a GW one, just with fewer weapons.

As for more Conqueror-esque oddities, there aren't really any more like that in SFB. It was basically a bad guess by the galactics. However, eventually ADB is going to release a module for SFB called "The Andromedan Threat File", which will consist entirely of 'bad guesses'.   When that comes out, you better believe I'm gonna make all those ships!

As for a guide, what sort of things would you want me to discuss in this guide if i were to write it?

Thanks again for your interest, guys.  
 

No difference? Even the Warp-Refitted cruisers? OK. What about the national fleets, could you do those?

Also, does that principle hold for the other races?

And that threat file looks great .

As for what I'd like to see in your guide is a basic how-to: You just got MilkShape and all the plugins and you want to start out with a shuttle and bild your way up in skill to making origional designs. I'm head of the Andromedans in the TNG mod, and a lot of the ideas I've found on the internet and have bopping around my head are...well origional--no model to go with it. Particualrly the TNG era Andro's, nobody has even considered that, except for WickedZombie, who did a nice job of modernizing the Andro's.

But beyond that, nothing. So I'd like to make some of my own models to go with the specs(much further down the line of course, maybe Part 8 or 9).

Where should I go, what should I read, where should I start? If you can answer those questions in a post, that would be great, if you need to write a whole article or guide, that would be great, as long as it doesn't impact your schedule too much(I don't want to be responsible for taking you away from your WONDERFUL creations).

Maybe such a thing already exists somewhere?

I really like your models Desty. It's a great thrill to a SFB player like me .

Take care,

Merlin  

[Merlinfmct87]

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Susse-thrai'fealirh!!!

I count 22 Phaser 2's and 5 Heavy Tractor-Repullsor Beams.

Fvadt, kllhe'mnhe, imirrhlhhse!!!

I hope to never see one of those in my viewscreen... cause it'll be the last thing you ever see there.
 

That's why the Darwin had to get back...it could not be stopped.

But you will see it in your viewscreen.

*let's panic sink in*

Oh...

One thing I should mention...

You'll be in a Galaxy class when you do .  

[J. Carney]

Merlin, the CL is a warp-refitted cruiser. Here is the SFB pic, just in case...

From Desty Nova's page :
  Fed (Old) Light Cruiser
The Warp-refit version just had weaker engines.

[Merlinfmct87]

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Merlin, the CL is a warp-refitted cruiser. Here is the SFB pic, just in case...

From Desty Nova's page :
  Fed (Old) Light Cruiser
The Warp-refit version just had weaker engines.

THAT'S IT!!!!!
             --Lucy

Are Bases/Docks the same principal? Just bigger and bulkier technology filling the same hull? If so, that makes my life a LOT easier . But if it's not, I don't want to pull a fast one on the SFB players in the mod audiance.

Best wishes to you all, you are helping me out so much. I can't say how that makes me feel,

Merlin  

[J. Carney]

Nope, there were no Starbases in the Early Years, only a kind of 'super FRD' that was armed to the teeth (even heavier than some starbases, the Rom one had 4 plas-R's).

Base and Battlestations, as far as I know (which ain't far) were pretty much the same as in the General War perod.

[Desty_Nova]

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No difference? Even the Warp-Refitted cruisers? OK. What about the national fleets, could you do those?

Also, does that principle hold for the other races?

Well, the warp refitted ships were different. They, and the national fleets, were designed in the non-tactical warp (aka sublight) period, so their hulls weren't optimized for the new technology. The Fed OCL was robust enough that it served through the General War however (this was due to extensive structural strength because the ship was an ironclad cruiser), mostly as specialized variants and support ships.

Most races had ships similar to the Fed OCL designed before tactical warp, most of these were retired however. Some still exist in various forms however. The Klingons still operate D4s as penal ships, and the Kzinti tug's hull is actually based off of their old ironclad cruiser. And obviously, the Romulans still have tons of old sublight ships.  

[Marauth]

Yes, sublight ships that can go faster than light, hmm. That's about as hackneyed as Voyager's 'Super-subspace' The space above the space below space, wouldn't that be erm, space!? ROFL. ADB Just couldn't bear to admit that Balance of Terror was a screwup and that the Roms had to have had warp. All other things aside the F-OCL is fugly.

[Desty_Nova]

Well, I personally would rather have a rationalization as to how the Romulans can have and maintain an interstellar empire with out having to spend hundreds of yeards crossing it.  

[Fury_of_a_Seraph]

see, the way that i imagined it is that they do indeed have warp drive, its just they didnt have M/A reactors - which are the traditional reactors for Warp Drive...the ran off of fusion...they later got M/A reactors from the klingon ships, and then they went into Quantum Singularity power sources during TLE.

[Marauth]

Aah, you've been reading the Starfleet Museum haven't you? LOL That's the explanation that I accept, Scotty's impulse power remark could be a reference to their reactor being a fusion reactor which attains warp speeds, not just sublight. Obviously such a reactor would be hideously underpowered and a real gas-guzzler compared to a more advanced M/AM reactor.

[Desty_Nova]

The way it goes in SFB is that in the early years, many races had warp drive, but it slow by modern standards and incapable of tactical warp. That is, fighting at warp. They could not generate a field stable enough that didn't horribly destroy itself and the ship when interacting with weapons energy. Once most races invented tactical warp, the Roms were left in the dust, technologically. This was because the political system of great houses in the Romulan government invloved alot of infighting and power plays and basically totally f&*^ed their ability to advance. The Klingons were even considering conquering them for awhile since they were so technologically backwards.  

[Marauth]

Hmm, yes well that's the cover story they made up, originally they took it for granted that the Romulans couldn't move faster than light. Besides which that would mean that the Lyrans and Kzinti should not have tactical warp as they seemed to have far worse infighting and political problems than the Romulans.

[J. Carney]

OK, here's the scoop... from one of us Birdies no less (and I'll take a King Vulture over anything else in that BPV range).

Those lizards staged several raids during  the closing years of our 4th Gorn War. During these raids, they destroyed one of a pair of thechnological breakthroughs that we had perpared to introduce into the fleet- tactical warp capibilities. This would allow our ships to fight at warp speeds without turning into pretty balls of fire in space, which can ruin your whole fvadt day. These cursed lizards were so successful, that they distroyed the whole station and all the research that that particular House had never bothered to share with anyone else (so that their tactical warp ships could escort THEIR candidate for rhiyrh (emperor)  to ch'Rihan.

As a result ofthis, we were left with only one of the technologies that our scientests had developed to help us conquer Thhaei (Vulcan), the cloaking device. This allowed us to hold our own, but only barely.

Prehaps that will help you understand why we were so long in attaining tactical warp.