Topic: Star Trek Enterprise: Zero Hour (season finale)  (Read 22188 times)

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ActiveX

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #120 on: May 27, 2004, 11:24:51 am »
Next thing you know, we'll see Voyager accidently hit Enterprise, with the SS Bounty as clean up hitter...all over the Golden Gate Bridge...

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #121 on: May 27, 2004, 11:25:59 am »
My initial thoughts is the end represents no trip into the past, that we are seeing alien intervention in Earth's time line, that this involves the Suliban, which has not been resolved, and that Earth has been transformed into such a sorry state of affairs it can never evolve and help create the future that we have all come to know and enjoy.

Earth is a pretty important planet, and if it never develops into the warp-driven society of peace and exploration, someone is not going to be stopped.
 
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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #122 on: May 27, 2004, 02:28:01 pm »
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My initial thoughts is the end represents no trip into the past, that we are seeing alien intervention in Earth's time line, that this involves the Suliban, which has not been resolved, and that Earth has been transformed into such a sorry state of affairs it can never evolve and help create the future that we have all come to know and enjoy.

Earth is a pretty important planet, and if it never develops into the warp-driven society of peace and exploration, someone is not going to be stopped.
 




Very Interesting idea actually. Maybe Khan is still alive here in this Future??? Or Col. Green???

Stephen

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #123 on: May 27, 2004, 02:40:22 pm »
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This'll go down as the Trek equivalent of the Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident; there was quite a compelling showdown being waged between the Carolina Reptilians and the Federation Patriots, but everyone will forget about that and focus on one little incident that seemed to be a completely separate part.  





Ack!  If Archer has a "wardrobe malfunction" I'm gonna hurl!!

Hoshi or T'Paul on the other hand...

 

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #124 on: May 27, 2004, 02:49:50 pm »
They had one chance to win back some of the fans they lost.    I was with them right up until the P-51's.  I just changed the channel and thought to myself that it's time to get off the crap wagon known as Enterprise.  

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #125 on: May 27, 2004, 03:50:18 pm »
Look at it in a positive light.  Now B&B can do what they've been doing to the trek timeline, but do it to the world's history!  Next thing we know, they'll have Mussolini leading tanks against Patton and winning, Hitler's forces taking St. Petersburg in the winter along with Moscow and everything up to Siberia before the Russians strike back, the Nazi's with ICBM's, and the American's barely winning because the Enterprise comes at the last moment and fires some point defense at the ICBM's launched by Hitler!

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #126 on: May 27, 2004, 05:38:32 pm »
Let's hold our judgment until we see next year's episodes to start the season.  I don't like the WW2 crap, but it is still possible it will be interesting.  I say they are NOT back in time or the helm would have noticed the star's being out of position.

We will see ...
 
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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #127 on: May 27, 2004, 06:44:38 pm »
Ahhh, finally!  A calmer voice.  True to form, Kortez.  Not bad for a spy kid.

P.S.  I think in general, the show has recovered its entertainment value, many episodes ago.

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #128 on: May 27, 2004, 07:01:19 pm »
And lost it with this episode its just going to be more of the same time travel BS

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #129 on: May 27, 2004, 07:07:19 pm »
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Next thing you know, we'll see Voyager accidently hit Enterprise, with the SS Bounty as clean up hitter...all over the Golden Gate Bridge...  




Botany Bay?  Botany Bay!  Oh no, we've got to get out of here!  

Death_Merchant

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #130 on: May 27, 2004, 07:11:06 pm »
Awwwww....

and I was a-gonna rant!

Akiraprise!
Continuity!
Gel-decom!
Klingon Homeworld is TOO CLOSE!
Deep space? Bah! We gots' subspace corridors galore!
Twisted timelines.... Frisky Vulcans....
and now EVIL NAZI ALIENS and P-51s strafing shuttlepods!
Ratta-tat ratta-tat!
 

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...sniff...sniff... it's not real..... it's not gonna be real.....
 it's just a TV show.....
   

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #131 on: May 27, 2004, 07:38:40 pm »
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Next thing you know, we'll see Voyager accidently hit Enterprise, with the SS Bounty as clean up hitter...all over the Golden Gate Bridge...  




Botany Bay?  Botany Bay!  Oh no, we've got to get out of here!    




Nah, Kahn never was in San Fran...that I know of...

but a cookie to whoever can tell me what the SS Bounty is...might have been HMS Bounty...dont recall exactly

Daew Anahos

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #132 on: May 27, 2004, 07:50:36 pm »
As I said in the General Forum Thread, I liked the ending. (Ducks and dons flame proof suit) I always like stories messing with the time-line. Sliders was cool in that respect, each Earth was different in some way, little or big. I agree with the posts that tag this as an alternate time-line, not having traveled through time again. They did somewhat set this up in the very first show with the "Temporal Cold War" deal. How destroying the spheres and the weapon count towards the new history is tough to guess...I'm tuning in just to see how in the (bleep) they are going to explain all this.

Hopefully, it won't be the second Enterprise reset button episode.

One thing, if history was changed, it means we don't have to listen to those #*#&^@^%@% I'm loving it commericals anymore!


   

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #133 on: May 27, 2004, 08:01:32 pm »
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but a cookie to whoever can tell me what the SS Bounty is...might have been HMS Bounty...dont recall exactly  





That was Captain Bligh's ship that Fletcher Christian and his buddies had their mutiny on -  and it was HMS.
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Kortez

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #134 on: May 27, 2004, 08:44:13 pm »
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And lost it with this episode its just going to be more of the same time travel BS  




Thanks, E_Look.  Khalee, I think one should remember they only tied up one of two time travel plots.  We have not seen the one with the Suliban resolve itself.   Perhaps we will now.  I hope they do it quickly, though, because I would rather see different plot items than time travel itself.  Still, since we don't know what is happening, shouldn't we wait to see?

 

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #135 on: May 27, 2004, 09:27:01 pm »
I know I'm going to catch flack for this, but doesn't this remind anybody else of the Farscape finale?  It was almost exactly the same situation, a long storyline finally gets resolved and everything is starting to look up for the heroes, when all of a sudden a totally random event throws everything out of whack just before the episode ends.

Death_Merchant

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #136 on: May 27, 2004, 09:35:17 pm »
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I know I'm going to catch flack for this, but doesn't this remind anybody else of the Farscape finale?  It was almost exactly the same situation, a long storyline finally gets resolved and everything is starting to look up for the heroes, when all of a sudden a totally random event throws everything out of whack just before the episode ends.  



No flack, but the analogy is a bit different.
We all knew that was the last season of Farscape. It wasn't a teaser for some upcoming storyline.
It was an end, and a rather harsh and abrupt one at that....  

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #137 on: May 27, 2004, 11:49:15 pm »
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No flack, but the analogy is a bit different.
We all knew that was the last season of Farscape. It wasn't a teaser for some upcoming storyline.
It was an end, and a rather harsh and abrupt one at that....  





No, when it was written, no one knew that it would be the last show ever.  Kemper and Co. thought they'd have another season to explain away why a bunch of random (and call me crazy, ones that resemble the Nazi alien) aliens vaporized John and Aeryn.  Instead, we got a very akward end.  Imagine if ENT had been cancelled and no reshoots were done; we'd virtually get the same thing: a conclusion to a long-running storyline that gets capped off by a completely out of the blue plot twist at the very end.

I wonder...people were ticked off at Sci Fi for cancelling Farscape and not allowing the cliffhanger to be resolved, not at the writers for coming up with a completely random way to end the seaon.  If UPN cancelled ENT, would people be angry at the network for cancelling the show before the final twist could be resolved, or would they be as they are now angry at the writers?

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #138 on: May 27, 2004, 11:57:56 pm »
Hmmm, I stand corrected then.
Thx, RatBoy

Maybe my whole problem with this is: The mini-arcs feel so "patched together at the last minute".

B5 had great arcs. Arcs planned from day one.
Enterprise arcs feels like cheap tricks to hook us to watch the next episode.

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Rat_Boy

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Re: Star Trek: Enterprise Zero Hour (season finale)
« Reply #139 on: May 28, 2004, 12:06:13 am »
In all honesty, I would've paid big bucks if B&B could drag in the guy who played D'Argo just to scream "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!" after seeing the Nazi alien.  Best...Ending Scream...Ever.